Popular Post Get Marwood & I Posted May 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Funnybooks said: This is my concern..fight it and the buyer may just make sure the book get's returned with color touch out of spite and you lose twice That's right, people can be unreasonable. If you spend your life battling them for your version of justice, you will live a very unhappy life. mysterymachine, The Lions Den, F For Fake and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Point Five Posted May 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2021 FWIW, if this is the first time you've had an incident like this in all your years of ebay selling, you've had a hell of a good run. jimjum12, valiantman, Transplant and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Bird said: accept a return...you win some and you lose some and this one went south. the truth of his claim is irrelevant. He wants to return, take it back. refund when you have book in hand +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnd1 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 My experience has been that the naked eye is a lot better at picking up color touch than a black light... in fact, I'm not sure I've ever spotted color touch with a black light (and I've tried!). The fact that he claimed to discover it by using a black light would make me suspicious. Having said that, I've found its best to just concede the issue, take the book back, and issue the refund (as long as it comes back in the same condition as sent). Then I'd block the bidder going forward. jimjum12 and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmeta Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Funnybooks said: I applaud your stance and wish you luck. I certainly don't condone the behavior and it's the reason I won't sell raw on ebay and I won't accept any bidder with less than 20 feedback as a disclaimer. Yes, I haven't tried to sell anything on ebay in years. If I do decide to sell on ebay, I'll probably do what you're doing...No raw's or very few cheap raws and only accept bidders with a certain amount of feedback. 20 seems like a good number. The rules were changed many years ago that you can't leave negative feedback for buyers. That did it for me. The Lions Den, Funnybooks and iggykoopa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 minute ago, musicmeta said: Yes, I haven't tried to sell anything on ebay in years. If I do decide to sell on ebay, I'll probably do what you're doing...No raw's or very few cheap raws and only accept bidders with a certain amount of feedback. 20 seems like a good number. The rules were changed many years ago that you can't leave negative feedback for buyers. That did it for me. In this day and age of free shipping and free returns, no questions asked policies, you now have a generation of buyers with little regard for the practice. Shame really. Larryw7 and BlowUpTheMoon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicmeta Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just now, Funnybooks said: In this day and age of free shipping and free returns, no questions asked policies, you now have a generation of buyers with little regard for the practice. Shame really. Yes. So true and sad. Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, awe4one said: I do not like being wronged. That's what she said! And now Barkley has a new roomie in his doghouse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 You can't win. Someone once told me never sell anything on Ebay that you're not willing to lose out on. Be careful selling raw books or cards. I have a raw Kobe Bryant rookie that'd I'd love to sell so I can use the money on comics. It's in perfect condition but I don't belong to any card grading clubs. My fear is that someone buys mine to upgrade theirs. They can complain to Ebay and then send me their crappy card in place of mine. It would be such an easy con to pull off...same can be done with raw books . The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 4 hours ago, awe4one said: Ok...I don’t like it. Don’t like that someone can dictate their sale if they don’t like their own error. And really don’t like them accusing me of something I never did. Especially something I really don’t like. This is kind of personal with me. I never thought someone would of accused of me of this and now it has happened, regardless of they being wrong. I really want to fight this until I’m forced to accept it. Jim Ebay has a business model where any buyer can return any item. Similar policy to Walmart or Amazon or Costco or frankly most retailers. Great for them because they don't own any of the items listed on their site. Great for buyers who change their minds or are dishonest. Not great for sellers. You could try to fight this but I don't think you'll get anywhere. Accept the return and hope you get what you sent back. Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Bird said: accept a return...you win some and you lose some and this one went south. the truth of his claim is irrelevant. He wants to return, take it back. refund when you have book in hand While the time frame might be a little annoying, if someone wants to return something it's just good business to take it back as long as it is in condition sold. I have a 14 day from delivery no questions asked ebay return policy as long as the buyer pays return shipping. I've had three items out of more than a thousand sales returned. Once because a buyer belatedly realized they already had the comics, and another time the reason listed was just "decided I didn't want it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awe4one Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 7 hours ago, THE_BEYONDER said: Maybe you were wronged by the original seller.... Maybe...but I bought it from a pretty respectable seller if I remember right. And looking at the comic I never thought color touch. Nor saw any indication it happened. This is wildly_fanciful_statement. On another angle, how are you Beyonder? Long time no talk. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namtak Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Ho by the title i tought ebay had made a comic book issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixom Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 It's possible and even likely to win a case. But can't imagine it's good odds if you ignore the case and give the buyer a automatic return. You can contact ebay and plea your case about not being notified for the return. If you know what you are doing you can still win or at least tie. But like others said, save the hassle and just sell it again for more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 3 hours ago, awe4one said: Maybe...but I bought it from a pretty respectable seller if I remember right. And looking at the comic I never thought color touch. Nor saw any indication it happened. This is wildly_fanciful_statement. On another angle, how are you Beyonder? Long time no talk. Jim I’m good Jim Just sitting on the sidelines and watching the crazy that is the current market . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeahiwasder4dat Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I'd check it thoroughly to make sure they didn't switch it. Happens a lot with cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldOrder Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 4:19 AM, awe4one said: OK guys I have an issue with a recent eBay auction that I would like your opinions/advice. I sold a raw Eternals #1 30 cent variant that I bought on this website about a decade ago for, if I remember right, $30. Put it in my box and hadn’t seen the light of day until I saw how much they were selling on eBay recently. Put it up on the site and it sold for a premium about a month ago. Now a month later the buyer is claiming to eBay he bought a black light and the comic has color touch. He wants his money back. Who color touches a $30 comic? And also I have photos of the inside front cover that shows no color touch bleed through. eBay never contacted me about this, my wife noticed it, and they automatically ruled in his favor. This is so wrong. And if you know me, I abhor restoration. What are my options? Jim Take the book back, block the eBay buyer, resell the book, and call it a day. Haven't had a bad day on eBay since 2005 since I just take back returns from a copy and paste message to the customer, and as long as I get the book back in the same condition. Most eBay auctions aren't worth going back and worth. Just get the book back and drink a beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 6:21 AM, awe4one said: Ok...I don’t like it. Don’t like that someone can dictate their sale if they don’t like their own error. And really don’t like them accusing me of something I never did. Especially something I really don’t like. This is kind of personal with me. I never thought someone would of accused of me of this and now it has happened, regardless of they being wrong. I really want to fight this until I’m forced to accept it. Jim He is saying you sold a book that had color touch. It's not an attack on you. No one says you did the color touch. It's a return. Treat it as a return, not a personal attack. F.I.D.O. The only way the basterds win is if you let them. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iggykoopa Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I hate ebay more and more everyday that passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post awe4one Posted May 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 Hey guys, got the comic back yesterday, It’s the same comic I sent and he packed it very well. Took a very through look at it with a magnifying glass and bright light. There is no color touch where he said there is (nor on the whole front cover). Gave him a refund regardless. Will probably relist it again. The whole thing has been a pain though. Jim Larryw7, djzombi, Funnybooks and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
