Jesse-Lee Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) As a caveat - I'm not trying to call out CGC or be disrespectful. We've accepted them as an authority in grading, and I recognize that I'm not, which is why I buy CGC slabbed key books. I was just inspired by this recent thread (https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/442575-incredible-hulk-3-with-stain-on-cover/#comments), in which a severely stained Hulk 3 still got a 3.5. I personally own a couple of Batman books - 181 and 244 - that present well above their grade in my opinion. I fully admit that I could be wrong and these deserve the exact grade they received; I'm just sharing that in my opinion, they look better - for example, comparing the 3.0 copy of Batman 181 below to the 3.5 graded Hulk 3 in the linked thread. So I thought it might be fun/instructive to share these and also to see your books that you feel are undergraded and why. Here are my books I referenced: 181 Front : 181 Back 244 Front 244 Back Edited September 23, 2021 by Jesse-Lee djpinkpanther67, MetalPSI and Flanders82 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixom Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Unfortunately I don't have any or remember. I have plenty that look like they should but if you look close enough in the right lightning they are graded correctly by cgc grading standards. Yours look under graded by the pics though. Didn't think the hulk was over graded. I could see a 3 so a single grade off I can accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Not complaining though. I got it very cheap but it WILL be cracked out eventually for a CnP Jesse-Lee and djpinkpanther67 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Real Elijah Snow Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 9:01 AM, sagii said: Most of these I can see the argument. Overly tight and probably a bit undergraded, but this one though...Is the back cover in tatters? 2.5 on this seems egregious; especially for GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 9:11 AM, Real Elijah Snow said: Most of these I can see the argument. Overly tight and probably a bit undergraded, but this one though...Is the back cover in tatters? 2.5 on this seems egregious; especially for GA. Hard to tell, but looks like a big spine split? I have a few I will post later. I actively look for books with eye appeal beyond their technical grades...which sometimes means CGC just undergraded. Point Five and sagii 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 10:11 AM, Real Elijah Snow said: Most of these I can see the argument. Overly tight and probably a bit undergraded, but this one though...Is the back cover in tatters? 2.5 on this seems egregious; especially for GA. Back cover is fine,, I haven't seen the grading notes but my guess is probably some spine (split, but not detached) issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern cross Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Here's one Just joking, it looks good for a 2.5 but there is water damaged on the right hand side. Makes for a cheap but nice looking low grade book 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 (edited) You can't judge a book by its cover, and you can't grade a comic without looking at the interior. Edited September 23, 2021 by shadroch Jesse-Lee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 9:43 AM, shadroch said: You can't judge a book by its cover, and you can't grade a comic without looking at the interior. So true. There are some great-looking 9.xx front covers out there in 4.xx-6.xx slabs. One the reasons the "trust" the OP notes is important. You simply have faith that flaws you can't see are in fact there. Jesse-Lee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 8:04 AM, october said: Hard to tell, but looks like a big spine split? I have a few I will post later. I actively look for books with eye appeal beyond their technical grades...which sometimes means CGC just undergraded. More often than not a seemingly low grade on a strong eye-appeal book with no obvious back cover issues is the result of spine splitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southern cross Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Or water damage that can be seen when you look closely at the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courageous Cat Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 sorry, not enough bandwidth for all the books I'd like to show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 A couple of CGC 3.5's (the A-Man and the MMC) and a CGC 5.5 (the Cap). I think all three are undergraded. The Cap has a near invisible water stain on the back, the MMC has some moisture warping and the A-Man has a lower spine split with a piece of tape on the interior. I think CGC hammers water stains WAY too hard, and foxing/dust shadows not enough. Never made any sense to me. One stain can't be seen and the book gets hammered. Other stains that can be seen aren't treated nearly as harshly. grendelbo, Flanders82 and Larryw7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Here's two - There's creasing around the staples because of poor placement and it's a natural and unavoidable consequence of opening the book. Heck, CGC may have creased it doing a page count. Otherwise it's cherry. I'd grade it 9.2/9.4. I've been over this copy countless times with different lights and different light sources and can't find a flaw except for a very slight handling crease on the top edge. I'd grade it a 9.6/9.8. I ignore the labels and I know I got better books than what the grade states. Flanders82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 On 9/23/2021 at 4:04 PM, grendelbo said: Here's two - There's creasing around the staples because of poor placement and it's a natural and unavoidable consequence of opening the book. Heck, CGC may have creased it doing a page count. Otherwise it's cherry. I'd grade it 9.2/9.4. I've been over this copy countless times with different lights and different light sources and can't find a flaw except for a very slight handling crease on the top edge. I'd grade it a 9.6/9.8. I ignore the labels and I know I got better books than what the grade states. Just curious if you pressed the uf4? Knowing they came in a poly bag, it almost has to be pressed due to that Itll have an invisible crease do-boy99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Best 7.0 White you'll ever see. MetalPSI and Namtak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SigS Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 j/k It's probably the PQ that brings this down. MetalPSI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisionbomb Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
