2Sunny Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Just wondering when this forum started, who are the longest posting regulars, and what were people saying 10 years ago that came true? jsilverjanet and oakman29 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fisionbomb Posted November 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 7:01 PM, Joe Peck said: who are the longest That's what she said. kav, Skylath, Mystafo and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vixom Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 You can still read post from 20 years ago. My guess 99 percent of people are wrong. From digital comics killing off printed ones to the bubble is going to burst. Tons of comics have gotten too expensive posts. Read your heart out. Maybe find something interesting to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ryan. Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 7:01 PM, Joe Peck said: what were people saying 10 years ago that came true? That the comic market would crash and prices couldn't possibly get higher. Everyone was so right! Mystafo, silverseeker, AmazingComics413 and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sigur Ros Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 They were arguing about 180 vs 181 Larryw7, Terry JSA, Namtak and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze_rules Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 When I came in people were arguing and debating about pressing. I think everyone just gave up and now that cgc legitimized it, no one cares anymore. oakman29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlowUpTheMoon Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 7:01 PM, Joe Peck said: Just wondering when this forum started, who are the longest posting regulars, and what were people saying 10 years ago that came true? All three of those questions can be answered by doing a little research. awakeintheashes, theCapraAegagrus, oakman29 and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-man Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 9:36 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said: All three of those questions can be answered by doing a little research. The post is the research Azkaban, RockMyAmadeus, Namtak and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kav Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 10 years ago and even longer people were saying these boards werent like they used to be, they sucked, etc. Comics4All, Math Teacher, Point Five and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE_BEYONDER Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 9:31 PM, bronze_rules said: When I came in people were arguing and debating about pressing. I think everyone just gave up and now that cgc legitimized it, no one cares anymore. I care. It’s the reason I won’t buy a slabbed book for my personal collection. Nothing special about a 9.0 that’s been restored into a 9.4 bronze_rules, Readcomix, grendelbo and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 9:53 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: I care. It’s the reason I won’t buy a slabbed book for my personal collection. Nothing special about a 9.0 that’s been restored into a 9.4 I have no opinion one way or the other so please don't take this wrong, but I am very curious as to why you feel that way. I do realize this was debated at length, but I am new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post THE_BEYONDER Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) On 11/4/2021 at 10:05 PM, Joe Peck said: I have no opinion one way or the other so please don't take this wrong, but I am very curious as to why you feel that way. I do realize this was debated at length, but I am new. I don’t like restored books. A 9.0 book that’s been pressed into a 9.4 isn’t equal to a 9.4 that was preserved that way. Think of it this way: Let’s say you have a 9.0 copy of Hulk 181. You want to upgrade to a 9.4 So you sell the 9.0 to your LCS, and ask that they let you know if a 9.4 comes in. The LCS then presses your 9.0 into a 9.4 Then they call you to let you know they have a 9.4 available. Since disclosure seems to be non-existent these days, you end up buying your 9.0 back (minus a near invisible NCB-crease ) for the 9.4 price. Edited November 5, 2021 by THE_BEYONDER Larryw7, The Lions Den, grendelbo and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 6:53 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: I care. It’s the reason I won’t buy a slabbed book for my personal collection. Nothing special about a 9.0 that’s been restored into a 9.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oakman29 Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 7:05 PM, Joe Peck said: I have no opinion one way or the other so please don't take this wrong, but I am very curious as to why you feel that way. I do realize this was debated at length, but I am new. Well for people who like the thrill of the hunt to find a pristine condition copy in the wild , this conversation means an awful lot to some. THE_BEYONDER, The Lions Den, Comics4All and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 10:26 PM, oakman29 said: Well for people who like the thrill of the hunt to find a pristine condition copy in the wild , this conversation means an awful lot to some. I see. Mint books become less rare with pressing, but I don't see how that is a bad thing. Again, not judging just understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oakman29 Posted November 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 7:41 PM, Joe Peck said: I see. Mint books become less rare with pressing, but I don't see how that is a bad thing. Again, not judging just understanding. Regardless of what people here say, pressing IS restoration. Manipulating a book to look better or grade higher is the very definition of restoration. I reject it. I would be more pleased to find a near mint condition copy instead of a manipulated book. Pretty simple really. PopKulture, KCOComics, MasterChief and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 10:46 PM, oakman29 said: Regardless of what people here say, pressing IS restoration. Manipulating a book to look better or grade higher is the very definition of restoration. I reject it. I would be more pleased to find a near mint condition copy instead of a manipulated book. Pretty simple really. This is a very interesting take. Namtak and oakman29 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Sunny Posted November 5, 2021 Author Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 10:46 PM, oakman29 said: Regardless of what people here say, pressing IS restoration. Manipulating a book to look better or grade higher is the very definition of restoration. I reject it. I would be more pleased to find a near mint condition copy instead of a manipulated book. Pretty simple really. Yep,totally understand and agree it's "restoration", but if I was buying a book to bring home, I would want it to be in the best condition it could be. I have art hanging on my living room wall, and it has been "restored", but it gives me no less pleasure when I examine the art. Again, we each choose our own preferences, and I respect yours immensely, but I am willing to purchase "restored" works without prejudice, and I think that increases the market, and I believe THAT is a good thing.Thank you for sharing your opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze_rules Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) I think many people believe there's something underhanded and deceptive about pressing. The fact that CGC doesn't even have a pressed label, when they themselves have full knowledge of the action shows they are intentionally omitting disclosure, likely because, much like a purple label it would devalue the item. Secondly, no one really knows the long term effect of applying heat and moisture and pressing to comics ephemera as yet, and no concrete studies have been applied that I know of. Hope I didn't open up any wounds here, and sorry to derail thread. But it was a big topic then, not so much anymore. Edited November 5, 2021 by bronze_rules PopKulture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 8:02 PM, bronze_rules said: I think people believe there's something underhanded about pressing. The fact that CGC doesn't even have a pressed label, when they themselves have full knowledge of the action shows they are intentionally lacking disclosure, likely because, much like a purple label it would devalue the item. Maybe if they did, then people wouldn't buy a 9.6 and ask for a refund when they realize it can't be pressed into a 9.8 Larryw7, oakman29 and Math Teacher 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...