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Roy Lichtenstein Comic List
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On 11/24/2021 at 8:14 PM, Artboy99 said:

no it takes skill to successfully trace. my customers that request recreations expect to receive completed pages that resemble the originals as closely as possible hence why I light box as part of the process.

Lichtenstein was creating art that captured moments in graphical form, anatomy wasnt as important.

I've tried to teach people to trace.  Their efforts are horrific.

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On 11/24/2021 at 9:17 PM, kav said:

I've tried to teach people to trace.  Their efforts are horrific.

you have to be skilled at art and drawing to make an excellent tracing effort. Have to know how to copy the line weight and duplicate the type of stroke of the original art. Otherwise the tracing will look terrible

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On 11/24/2021 at 8:22 PM, Artboy99 said:

you have to be skilled at art and drawing to make an excellent tracing effort. Have to know how to copy the line weight and duplicate the type of stroke of the original art. Otherwise the tracing will look terrible

You have to trace, then firm up the image looking at the original.  I dont use a lightbox, just trace off computer screen in dark room.  

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On 11/24/2021 at 9:24 PM, kav said:

You have to trace, then firm up the image looking at the original.  I dont use a lightbox, just trace off computer screen in dark room.  

most tracings wont look like the original art, but will have too much of the tracer's own style. 

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On 11/24/2021 at 9:57 PM, szav said:

Yeah we’ve discussed  it before, so no need to relitigate…I suppose it’s possible one could celebrate the work of both Lichtenstein and the artists he ‘borrowed’ from.  
The success and awareness of their respective works is intertwined and really inseparable at this point anyway.

I like em both.

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Yeah I know I repeat myself.  It’s like a Pavlovian response when I read comments that totally ignore that Lichty has any talent or insight compared to the comic geniuses.  I like the idea that we can like them both.  The underlying issue really of why Lichtenstein is lionized and the comics guys totally forgotten probably comes down to their respective worlds.  One was throwaway “kids junk” however well drawn and conceived.  While the other had the audacity to try to compete in the big money work of “real” art.   So many fail trying to succeed in that world… it’s a lot riskier than “Settling for a steady diet of commercial art.  
 

also a big difference is comics publishers pay as little as they can to interchangeable talent.  While big time art dealers have an incentive to build up the name recognition of their artists cause it leads to more sales at increasing prices.  Lichty struck a nerve, but the dealers made the sales. Let’s blame THEM for being greedy suckers. 

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On 11/24/2021 at 11:14 PM, Aman619 said:

Yeah I know I repeat myself.  It’s like a Pavlovian response when I read comments that totally ignore that Lichty has any talent or insight compared to the comic geniuses.  I like the idea that we can like them both.  The underlying issue really of why Lichtenstein is lionized and the comics guys totally forgotten probably comes down to their respective worlds.  One was throwaway “kids junk” however well drawn and conceived.  While the other had the audacity to try to compete in the big money work of “real” art.   So many fail trying to succeed in that world… it’s a lot riskier than “Settling for a steady diet of commercial art.  
 

also a big difference is comics publishers pay as little as they can to interchangeable talent.  While big time art dealers have an incentive to build up the name recognition of their artists cause it leads to more sales at increasing prices.  Lichty struck a nerve, but the dealers made the sales. Let’s blame THEM for being greedy suckers. 

Lichty did what any artist does-he took something and expresed it his own way.  he was quite brilliant and lets nor forget he put a lot more work into his paintings with all the dots and also choosing th panels and what part of the panels to use.  Much like a photographer its picking the frame that makes it art.  a flower is just a flower one could argue a photographer is not an artist because they are just 'copying' the flower with film but thats not correct.

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On 11/24/2021 at 11:58 PM, Terry JSA said:

Do you think he says that about the feet he’s drawn? 

Oh he's said it.  One time he was crowing at his detractors saying when he draws feet they dont know what to do!
Oh they know what to do all right.  They say wtf are those stubs supposed to be????

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I was following Gaiman's crusade with great interest. The comments in Gaiman's feed were eye opening as to how many art majors had no idea of the swipes, as professors omitted that info while teaching about Pop Art. I think anywhere Lichtenstein's paintings are displayed the original art should be displayed too.

A lot of the original art was just flat out drawn better, just look as the Romita compared to Lichtenstein. 

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one comment and Ill stop repeating myself.  ART is not measured by how "well drawn" it is.  His aim was NOT to paint the comic panels "better", just draw attention to them by size and style and seeing them in a gallery as ART not throwaway (BETTER DRAWN or not) objects of mass culture and consumerism. 

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