The Lions Den Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/31/2021 at 4:53 AM, Gaard said: I'm really behind on the news. What's the story with the Promise Collection? I've been looking for the perfect excuse to use this one... Larryw7 and grendelbo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ride the Tiger Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 I'm sure I speak for others when I say we'd like to see CGC use their time and resources to fix what's still broke rather than bringing another novelty into the hobby. steveinthecity, adampasz, Galen130 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Makes you think, “what grade could I get bumped to if I hide a Ben Franklin inside the cover of a submission?” Technically, it’s “invisible” too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 If a different company did this there would be a 50 page thread mocking them. Larryw7, Tony S, OJ Pimpson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPR Comics Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Give it a minute. B2D327 and dupont2005 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gemini Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 10:00 PM, Tony S said: I might not fully understand what you mean when you say "much ado about nothing". I've collected comic books since 1967 and seriously as an adult since the early 1970's. People thought comic book collecting "nothing" during those times. Adults that never grew up. It's not nothing and not silly anymore. And the worlds leading grader of comic books needs to behave as though this is a legitimate art form and serious business. They just graded blank sheets of clear acetate and pretended like they are invisible comic books. Comic books that ranged in grade from 1.8 to 9.8. In grading these sheets of acetate and pretending they are invisible comics, they broke numerous guidelines they normally follow (and subject our submitted real comic books to) . It's one sheet only, folded over. That's the same as a cover. Covers only get a NG (no grade) grade. How did they authenticate they were legitimate? What's the actual difference between the 1.8's and the 9.8's? Barring some convincing explanation otherwise, it seems an ill-advised partnership and an astonishingly irreverent poke at the idea of even having comic books professionally graded and encapsulated. If CGC doesn't take grading and authentication of comic books seriously, who does? Oh, I take comic collecting seriously. I have over 10,000 of the things and have much invested in CGC submissions. I still can't get worked up over this. It's obviously a special situation and a bit of a goof, and I got my chuckle out of it. That's the limit of my reaction. The Lions Den, Tony S and AJD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gemini Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/31/2021 at 8:08 AM, Ride the Tiger said: I'm sure I speak for others when I say we'd like to see CGC use their time and resources to fix what's still broke rather than bringing another novelty into the hobby. I do agree with this. The Lions Den, Tony S and MetalPSI 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 It does go to the overall "tone deaf" that is CGC. People are upset by huge TATs and bad QC. And stuff like this just makes people more upset. Number 6, MetalPSI , troydivision1 and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ares Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) If it was a novelty produced and not tracked I doubt it would be a big deal. But the fact they entered it in the census is what makes it ridiculous. I blame Blackstone Edited December 31, 2021 by Ares Tony S, Juno Beach, Larryw7 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Sad, but not unexpected. I doubt Blackstone had anything to do with it, beyond upper management trying to justify their continued employment to their new corporate masters. I don't know much about Bad Idea but they seem to be pushing the envelope to see just how stupid the hobby can get. Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bc Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 MetalPSI , IcedDog, Tony S and 3 others 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) Edited January 1, 2022 by Terry JSA Fixed the order of the images. Larryw7 and Juno Beach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MetalPSI Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2022 Not the only one thinking it, probably not the only one saying it BUT Anyone giving money to Bad Idea, you're part of a problem with modern society and, please, just cut your losses at this point Juno Beach, onlyweaknesskryptonite, mattn792 and 8 others 7 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 6:17 PM, Terry JSA said: This image makes it pretty clear that the "lower grade" slabs of this nonsense are not visibly defective; that is to say, the slabbed grade has no relationship to the condition of the acetate. CGC simply allowed Bad Idea to pay money for arbitrary, pre-determined grades on slabs. Sure, they're dumb slabs. But they still are CGC slabs. How the hell are we supposed to believe whether you'll allow this on a real book someday? Even PHX didn't make specific grades available for sale to third parties. Juno Beach and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I cracked mine out and this is closer to a 9.9. eBay, here I come THE_BEYONDER and Tony S 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 9:02 PM, Qalyar said: This image makes it pretty clear that the "lower grade" slabs of this nonsense are not visibly defective; that is to say, the slabbed grade has no relationship to the condition of the acetate. CGC simply allowed Bad Idea to pay money for arbitrary, pre-determined grades on slabs. Sure, they're dumb slabs. But they still are CGC slabs. How the hell are we supposed to believe whether you'll allow this on a real book someday? Even PHX didn't make specific grades available for sale to third parties. I think this whole gimmick is dumb. Tony S and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) I want this to be simply asinine, but maybe this signals the beginning of the end of this age of encapsulation.... And what’s going on with the top staple of the 9.6 Edited January 1, 2022 by THE_BEYONDER Tony S, Qalyar, dupont2005 and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gemini Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 7:42 PM, The Meta said: Not the only one thinking it, probably not the only one saying it BUT Anyone giving money to Bad Idea, you're part of a problem with modern society and, please, just cut your losses at this point Actually, I'm starting to enjoy how much this is bothering people a little...and I have my run of "Odinn's Eye" to complete. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badback83 Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 I’m really confused. A company paid CGC to seal an empty case with a label and call it an Invisible book? Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 7:54 PM, Lord Gemini said: Actually, I'm starting to enjoy how much this is bothering people a little...and I have my run of "Odinn's Eye" to complete. Honestly, I'm not one to chastise people on what they collect, its just you can't help but feel this company is in the business of pushing how hard they can to show people's greed and gullibility Larryw7, Tony S and Juno Beach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
