Juno Beach Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1. Bad idea or 2. Really, really bad idea? MetalPSI , Larryw7 and Tony S 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormboy Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I think it’s funny. And, yes, I have books waiting at CGC. Tony S, Lord Gemini and The Lions Den 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Gemini Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 9:09 PM, wormboy said: I think it’s funny. And, yes, I have books waiting at CGC. Same here. Much ado about nothing. The Lions Den, Bumbo and Tony S 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Such a bad publicity stunt. I doubt they would accept any submissions from anyone other than bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 8:46 PM, CGC Mike said: I will check into this. CGC is closed tomorrow so, it's possible I won't have a statement until next week. It's also possible they will tell you to shut up and just keep tending to the chimps in the forums as well. IcedDog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony S Posted December 31, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/30/2021 at 9:19 PM, Lord Gemini said: Same here. Much ado about nothing. I might not fully understand what you mean when you say "much ado about nothing". I've collected comic books since 1967 and seriously as an adult since the early 1970's. People thought comic book collecting "nothing" during those times. Adults that never grew up. It's not nothing and not silly anymore. And the worlds leading grader of comic books needs to behave as though this is a legitimate art form and serious business. They just graded blank sheets of clear acetate and pretended like they are invisible comic books. Comic books that ranged in grade from 1.8 to 9.8. In grading these sheets of acetate and pretending they are invisible comics, they broke numerous guidelines they normally follow (and subject our submitted real comic books to) . It's one sheet only, folded over. That's the same as a cover. Covers only get a NG (no grade) grade. How did they authenticate they were legitimate? What's the actual difference between the 1.8's and the 9.8's? Barring some convincing explanation otherwise, it seems an ill-advised partnership and an astonishingly irreverent poke at the idea of even having comic books professionally graded and encapsulated. If CGC doesn't take grading and authentication of comic books seriously, who does? Edited December 31, 2021 by Tony S B2D327, Juno Beach, StillOnly25Cents and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 CGC can use any ‘buffoonery’ they want…they’ve lost my business no matter what they do. Tony S, Juno Beach, B2D327 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Sad . Also they even mention the invisible "art" : "Take the money and run" ironic.. Edited December 31, 2021 by onlyweaknesskryptonite Sp Tony S and B2D327 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/30/2021 at 7:46 PM, CGC Mike said: I will check into this. CGC is closed tomorrow so, it's possible I won't have a statement until next week. Your response is appreciated. I don't expect the management to craft a reply on a holiday, but I am definitely very interested to see what explanation is provided once they return... Edited December 31, 2021 by Qalyar dupont2005 and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 9:00 PM, Tony S said: Barring some convincing explanation otherwise, it seems an ill-advised partnership and an astonishingly irreverent poke at the idea of even having comic books professionally graded and encapsulated. If CGC doesn't take grading and authentication of comic books seriously, who does? It's a farce. All of it. Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Qalyar Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 10:55 PM, grendelbo said: It's a farce. All of it. Honestly, if all they had done was allow Bad Idea to slab some finite number of clear acetate covers... I still would have complained on principle, but the gimmick would have been harmless. The fact that they appear to have allowed Bad Idea to manipulate the grading process or outright purchase slabs in specific grades, on the other hand, reflects very, very badly on the independence and neutrality of CGC as a grading authority. And that's true regardless of the fact that these slabs contain "invisible" books. Because next time they might not. Heck, the Amphoman guy wants to offer $10k for his junk book in a CGC 10 slab... JJ-4, Larryw7, OJ Pimpson and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/30/2021 at 10:39 PM, Qalyar said: independence and neutrality Didn't the Promise Collection destroy the last vestiges of this supposed neutrality? I guess not. They're repeating independence and neutrality issues of 17 years ago. Remember this? I thought 9.5s exist only when I make a typo in PGM. Edited December 31, 2021 by grendelbo Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 11:46 PM, grendelbo said: Didn't the Promise Collection destroy the last vestiges of this supposed neutrality? I guess not. They're repeating independence and neutrality issues of 17 years ago. Remember this? I thought 9.5s exist only when I make a typo in PGM. At least those had a unique label. And were 17 years ago, when CGC wasn't nearly so well established. And provided a made-up grade number that, well, being less than 9.6, isn't even really desirable on the random Moderns that got it. I'm not trying to give an apologia for the Wizard First slabs. They were a bad idea. But they weren't as bad an idea as the Bad Idea bad idea Tony S, Catwomancomics, OJ Pimpson and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted December 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2021 You can't possibly think CGC cares what anyone thinks about this. They don't even care about QC and putting out a terrible product. Larryw7, grendelbo, Juno Beach and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJD Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Lighten up dudes. Lord Gemini, The Lions Den and Point Five 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/31/2021 at 12:46 AM, grendelbo said: Didn't the Promise Collection destroy the last vestiges of this supposed neutrality? I guess not. I'm really behind on the news. What's the story with the Promise Collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I legitimately can't think of a single good and justifiable reason that these should have been accepted for grading as they are. Conversely, if done by Marvel, with an etching of the Invisible Woman logo on the cover, and a 4 page story inside, no matter how difficult to read, would at least be something different, and may have market appeal. As this is though? No. It's just nothing. OJ Pimpson and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Could be a show about nothing Goes on for 9 years, has a terrible last show Years later, someone says it was canceled and CGC gets right indignant about it, hinting, maybe there was something to a canceled theory Transplant, Larryw7, The Lions Den and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/31/2021 at 11:12 PM, The Meta said: Could be a show about nothing Goes on for 9 years, has a terrible last show Years later, someone says it was canceled and CGC gets right indignant about it, hinting, maybe there was something to a canceled theory CGC has been very transparent about what they're doing here, and they encourage others to look straight through the books to the graders behind the slab. For maybe the first time ever, they're offering a look at what goes into the slab, and that's priceless. I encourage others to also come clear. Lazyboy, The Lions Den and MetalPSI 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) For more on this subject, please refer to the classic Pink Floyd album "Wish You Were Here." (I'd post a picture of the album cover, but it seems to have mysteriously disappeared...) Edited December 31, 2021 by The Lions Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
