Odda Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I just received my Transformers 1 back from CGC which graded as a 9.6 w/white pages. No graders notes were made available, which I am a little confused by. There was also a 9.4 and 9.2 in the same submission with no notes. Thoughts? adampasz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnexus Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 They almost never do grader notes for 9.6's. Also grader notes are made for graders to share notes between themselves. If the deductions are fairly obvious, there's no reason to notate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odda Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 4:49 AM, Tnexus said: They almost never do grader notes for 9.6's. Also grader notes are made for graders to share notes between themselves. If the deductions are fairly obvious, there's no reason to notate it. Understood. Unfortunately, the deductions are not obvious. Notes are shared with owners on some books but not others? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted March 16, 2022 Administrator Share Posted March 16, 2022 CGC Grader Notes What are CGC Grader Notes? When CGC graders examine a collectible, they may enter comments about its condition. These “Grader Notes” describe problems, indicate the condition of the interior pages, and help explain why a collectible received the grade it did. After the first grader enters notes and their grade, the next grader can review those notes and can make any additional notes. For collectibles with the purple CGC Restored Grade label, Restoration Notes are given that describe the location and type of restoration. These notes are a valuable part of the grading process, and CGC makes Grader Notes available online for Authorized Dealers and paid members. Sample Grader Notes Some commonly used CGC Grader Notes include: Right Center Front Cover Lite Fingerprints Top Spine Water Damage Left Center Back Cover Moderate Erasure Mark Spine Small Stress Lines Staple Rusted w/Rust Stained Interior Interior Heavy Tanning Bottom Right Front Cover Large Crease Top Right Front Cover Restoration Color Touch Left Center Back Cover Restoration Tear Seal Grader Notes Fee Grader Notes are free for CGC Authorized Dealers and paid members (if available)! Grader Notes are available in the Verify CGC Certification tool at CGCcomics.com/verify. To see if any collectibles in your submissions have Grader Notes, log in and click “My Submissions.” Then click “View Status.” Important Notes CGC Grader Notes are not entered for every CGC-certified collectible. They are entered at the discretion of CGC’s graders. CGC Grader Notes do not necessarily describe every defect on a CGC-certified collectible. Pre-screen submissions that do not meet the submitter’s minimum grade (i.e., “Pre-Screen rejects”) do not get CGC Grader Notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Good. It's a waste of time to include notes for most books in the 9.4+ range. Sefageus Magnipab 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odda Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 Not sure why it is a waste of time. It would just be nice to see why the flaw(s) were. Thanks. djzombi, JJ-4, Lord Gemini and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odda Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 (edited) On 3/16/2022 at 8:37 AM, Odda said: Not sure why it is a waste of time. It would just be nice to see why the flaw(s) were. Thanks. Edited March 16, 2022 by Odda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 10:37 AM, Odda said: Not sure why it is a waste of time. It would just be nice to see why the flaw(s) were. Thanks. There are a couple of options: Learn to grade at an elementary level. Accept the authority of CGC's opinion as a 'matter of fact'. Odda, RockMyAmadeus and I like pie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 5:59 AM, Odda said: I just received my Transformers 1 back from CGC which graded as a 9.6 w/white pages. No graders notes were made available, which I am a little confused by. There was also a 9.4 and 9.2 in the same submission with no notes. Thoughts? Seems odd that there’s zero notes for all 3 copies Odda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-4 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 8:06 AM, THE_BEYONDER said: Seems odd that there’s zero notes for all 3 copies 100% Odda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adampasz Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 See discussion here: Odda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Graders notes on high grade books are very rare. For better or worse, my sense is that the graders mostly only take notes when they're indexing the problems with books that have more substantive defects. I've had books as low as 8.0 without notes. But in general, never expect graders notes. It's nice when they're present. I wish they were present more often. Heck, I wish they were mandatory, but I know what that would do to the already substantial turn around times. ttfitz, Microchip and Odda 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-4 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 9:05 AM, Qalyar said: Graders notes on high grade books are very rare. For better or worse, my sense is that the graders mostly only take notes when they're indexing the problems with books that have more substantive defects. I've had books as low as 8.0 without notes. But in general, never expect graders notes. It's nice when they're present. I wish they were present more often. Heck, I wish they were mandatory, but I know what that would do to the already substantial turn around times. For the time and expense needed no notes on a 8.0 is just crazy town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 4:59 AM, Odda said: I just received my Transformers 1 back from CGC which graded as a 9.6 w/white pages. No graders notes were made available, which I am a little confused by. There was also a 9.4 and 9.2 in the same submission with no notes. Thoughts? Story by Ralph Macchio? The Karate Kid wrote Transformers? JJ-4, Larryw7 and Odda 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 11:29 AM, JJ-4 said: For the time and expense needed no notes on a 8.0 is just crazy town. It definitely wasn't the highlight of that unboxing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 9.4 and higher rarely get notes If you wonder why your book isn’t higher it’s usually the following -corners aren’t as sharp -spine tick, even if barely noticeablr -interior flaw (maybe larger than desired printing tears in the margins, colour or ink smearing, etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon760 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 We don't know why it's a 9.6, that's what it comes down to. Looking at it, I have no clue and anybody else would just be guessing. Leaving out any explanation doesn't help understanding or transparency. JJ-4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighRadArt Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 I think the reason there's no notes on a 9.6 is because it depends on what mood the grader is in that day. Someone just paid how much for a Hulk 181 9.6? I'll make this a 9.8... Odda and JJ-4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibranium Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Odda... I understand your concern. There is quite a difference in value between a 9.6 and 9.8. Since you can't see the flaw(s) I'm sure you would like to know what it is. It would most likely be only one line in the grader notes compared to three and more for lower grades. Odda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning55 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The note clerk is a position yet to be filled at CGC. Odda and JJ-4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
