Tomb of Dracula 10 possible trimming error effect on grade question 0

[GaryC79]

Hello!  I have these two copies of Tomb of Dracula 10 I wanted to submit, but the one on the left in the the first photo has this extra piece of the cover dangling off of it.  You can see that compared to the other copy, that the covers are the same width and in the final photo that the "extra" piece is part of the cover.  Would that hurt the grade or come across as restored?

Thanks!

[LowGradeBronze]

It won't get a restored label as clearly this is a miscut during manufacturing. What CGC do with this I don't know. It would look neater folded in. There is a tiny tear next to it that does affect the grade slightly but this flap is in the realm of bindery issues and won't as such kill the grade. Chances are other issues around the book will determine the grade (looks like maybe a VG/FN 5.0) and this is just one small aspect. Neat! And you have two copies you lucky chap!

[GaryC79]

Thanks, I'll roll the dice!

[The Lions Den]

On 4/2/2022 at 10:36 AM, GaryC79 said:

Thanks, I'll roll the dice!

Unless they've changed their stance, CGC may decide to not encapsulate the book with the extra piece of paper...

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 4/3/2022 at 6:34 PM, The Lions Den said:

Unless they've changed their stance, CGC may decide to not encapsulate the book with the extra piece of paper...

I would fold it over.

[Topnotchman]

Some call this a Maverick cut, just fold it in and don't worry about it. 

[Randall Dowling]

Get a nice sharp knife and finish the job.  But do it very carefully.

Definitely use a ruler.

[seanfingh]

On 4/5/2022 at 2:43 AM, Randall Dowling said:

Get a nice sharp knife and finish the job.  But do it very carefully.

Definitely use a ruler.

I would not necessarily do that. They (CGC) might find it, and they might give it a purple label for trimming.  Juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze, when its possibly a PLOD.

[Randall Dowling]

On 4/5/2022 at 4:46 PM, seanfingh said:

I would not necessarily do that. They (CGC) might find it, and they might give it a purple label for trimming.  Juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze, when its possibly a PLOD.

Apologies, I was mostly joking.  I don't think that separating siamese pages, trimming over folds, etc. should be considered restoration, but CGC obviously does.  So you're correct, if you're going to send in a book for certification, then yes, leave it as is.

[Xenosmilus]

This is an interesting circumstance.  Let us know the outcome!

[seanfingh]

On 4/5/2022 at 6:00 PM, Randall Dowling said:

Apologies, I was mostly joking.  I don't think that separating siamese pages, trimming over folds, etc. should be considered restoration, but CGC obviously does.  So you're correct, if you're going to send in a book for certification, then yes, leave it as is.

Sorry - my sarcasm meter was on the fritz!

[Dick Pontoon]

On 4/6/2022 at 10:15 AM, seanfingh said:

On 4/5/2022 at 6:00 PM, Randall Dowling said:

Apologies, I was mostly joking.  I don't think that separating siamese pages, trimming over folds, etc. should be considered restoration, but CGC obviously does.  So you're correct, if you're going to send in a book for certification, then yes, leave it as is.

Sorry - my sarcasm meter was on the fritz!

FWIW, i thought it was a serious response as well. There is SO much inane advice floating around these days ("I only use backing boards coated on both sides when I press books!") that it can be hard to tell.

[BlowUpTheMoon]

Serious Response:  I submitted something similar and CGC simply folded it in for me.  Blue label. 

[MR SigS]

I have a similar situation, but a bit more severe. One page had the maverick cut that neatly folds over, but the tear above it (which looks like it was caused by the cut) seems to have also happened to the two pages before it. Maybe the blade caused the tears without leaving a flap on two of them 

       

Unfortunately, I was told (by Steve Ricketts) that the tears would still go against the grade. Perhaps because it can't be 100% determined they were related to the flap , I don't know what CGC would do, so I hope you'll keep us updated. I assume they'd say the same. 

 

 

 

[The Lions Den]

On 4/6/2022 at 2:10 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

Serious Response:  I submitted something similar and CGC simply folded it in for me.  Blue label. 

Did they make a comment in the notes or on the label? Just curious...  

[BlowUpTheMoon]

On 4/8/2022 at 3:51 PM, The Lions Den said:

Did they make a comment in the notes or on the label? Just curious...  

The book was a square bound double cover I used in a grading contest. There was no mention on the label. Unsure about the grader notes.

[BlowUpTheMoon]

On 4/8/2022 at 3:51 PM, The Lions Den said:

Did they make a comment in the notes or on the label? Just curious...  

My memory was a little muddy about the specific book.  It wasn't a double cover but it was a square bound. 

 

 

[The Lions Den]

On 4/9/2022 at 12:39 AM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

My memory was a little muddy about the specific book.  It wasn't a double cover but it was a square bound. 

 

 

Wow, it looks pretty nice for a 5.0...

[PovertyRow]

On 4/5/2022 at 7:53 PM, Xenosmilus said:

This is an interesting circumstance.  Let us know the outcome!

Must remember to check back here in 2023!