Matt1982 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) Thanks! Edited February 5 by Matt1982 Galen130 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEnd1 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Nice copy... looks slightly off-color... I'd say 8.0-8.5. capt hook, Matt1982 and grendelbo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendelbo Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 4:38 PM, EastEnd1 said: Nice copy... looks slightly off-color... I'd say 8.0-8.5. Agreed. Definitely 8.0/8.5 with a press. 9.0 is not an impossibility with the ol' WWBN 32 bump. Thanks for sharing. Matt1982 and FSQIV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8.0 Matt1982 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Visiting Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I'm going with the 8.0 crowd Matt1982 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 8.0 from me. Pages edges seemed browned though... might not get the best page quality on it Matt1982 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 10:48 AM, AhsokaTano Jedi Apprentice said: Does page quality really matter ? Isn't that included and help determine the final grade ? Then it would matter a lot. Is page quality a separate entity and just gets posted in grader notes for informational purposes ? If a comic has white pages does it get a bump in grade ? If it's off white does that give it a slight bump down ? If you don't mind me asking you. Does page quality matter? Yes to certain collectors. Personally, I don't like brown page edges or brittle pages. And generally, a better page quality on a book means it would sell for more than a copy in the same grade with a worse page quality (ex a book with white pages would sell more than one with cream to off white pages) Does page quality help determine final grade? Good question. I would imagine to a degree it plays a roll. Maybe not though and maybe it is viewed separately. But I would think a book with heavy browning to edges of the covers and pages (despite being structurally pristine) would see that flaw reflected in its overall grade. Page quality is posted on every slab, visible for all to see. If a comic has white pages does it get a bump in grade? Another good question. I think grading goes back to the structure of the book. You can have a 2.5 book with white pages but the page quality does not bump it up to a 3.0. If anything, as said before, it is more likely to mean it sells for a little more than a similar 2.5 copy with worse page quality. grendelbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Design Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 sharp...8.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 8.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven with a V Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 8.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 7.5/8.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lpgk Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 7.0 to 7.5. they'll ding you for the soft corner bottom right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 12:08 PM, comicginger1789 said: Does page quality matter? Yes to certain collectors. Personally, I don't like brown page edges or brittle pages. And generally, a better page quality on a book means it would sell for more than a copy in the same grade with a worse page quality (ex a book with white pages would sell more than one with cream to off white pages) Does page quality help determine final grade? Good question. I would imagine to a degree it plays a roll. Maybe not though and maybe it is viewed separately. But I would think a book with heavy browning to edges of the covers and pages (despite being structurally pristine) would see that flaw reflected in its overall grade. Page quality is posted on every slab, visible for all to see. If a comic has white pages does it get a bump in grade? Another good question. I think grading goes back to the structure of the book. You can have a 2.5 book with white pages but the page quality does not bump it up to a 3.0. If anything, as said before, it is more likely to mean it sells for a little more than a similar 2.5 copy with worse page quality. Page quality only affects the grade once you get past CRM/OW since I see many 9.8's with that page designation. You start to get into trouble with PQ when you hit cream, light tan, tan and brittle. As far as the cover goes tanning has a major impact on the grade of the book. I get a lot of books in that structurally are in the 9.4 and better range, but tanning drops the book down considerably. MAR1979 and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojohand Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 8.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1982 Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 11:08 AM, comicginger1789 said: Does page quality matter? Yes to certain collectors. Personally, I don't like brown page edges or brittle pages. And generally, a better page quality on a book means it would sell for more than a copy in the same grade with a worse page quality (ex a book with white pages would sell more than one with cream to off white pages) Does page quality help determine final grade? Good question. I would imagine to a degree it plays a roll. Maybe not though and maybe it is viewed separately. But I would think a book with heavy browning to edges of the covers and pages (despite being structurally pristine) would see that flaw reflected in its overall grade. Page quality is posted on every slab, visible for all to see. If a comic has white pages does it get a bump in grade? Another good question. I think grading goes back to the structure of the book. You can have a 2.5 book with white pages but the page quality does not bump it up to a 3.0. If anything, as said before, it is more likely to mean it sells for a little more than a similar 2.5 copy with worse page quality. Thanks for your posts. I’m reading the new CGC grading book, and it addresses this very question. It sounds like having white pages won’t bump an otherwise lower grade, but having browned pages will hurt the grade. Specifically it says: - A comic must have at least off-white to get a 9.8, and if it’s off-white it won’t get a 9.9 - A comic with Light Tan to Off-White will cap out at 8.5 - A comic with Tan to Off-White will cap out at 7.5 - A comic with Slightly Brittle will cap out at 6.5 - A comic with Brittle will cap out at 3.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_bison Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 8.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 A tanned book should grade lower. The paper is degrading. Over time that browning become weaker and weaker to the point where you can easily bend/fold and tear a comic with severe brown edges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1982 Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 Thanks to everyone - very happy with this one. Galen130 and grendelbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 On 2/4/2024 at 8:13 PM, Matt1982 said: Thanks to everyone - very happy with this one. Did you have them press it before it was graded? Appears so but just wanted to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1982 Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 On 2/4/2024 at 7:35 PM, Vince G said: Did you have them press it before it was graded? Appears so but just wanted to ask. Not CGC, but the facilitator did clean & press. Vince G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
