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Calling all Golden age Detectives. Need help identifying markings
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Hello fellow collectors!  I’ve acquired a collection this week that has some very high grade Golden Age in it.  The collection came out of Lexington KY.  

There’s some markings on the books that I’m questioning. Due to the high grade I’m wondering if there could be some pedigrees mixed in. Let me know what you think!

these first two have markings that look like the Ohio pedigree. 
 

 

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On 8/14/2022 at 4:09 PM, RareHighGrade said:

Wow, those are gorgeous books!  Yes, the markings on the first two books are consistent with Ohios.  I don't recognize the others.  So this is not an original owner collection?

No, he started buying off the stand around 1960. The golden age he bought later

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On 8/14/2022 at 1:09 PM, RareHighGrade said:

Wow, those are gorgeous books!  Yes, the markings on the first two books are consistent with Ohios.  I don't recognize the others.  So this is not an original owner collection?

Those markings are also consistent with Promise books, which also came from Ohio.  Most likely just a distributor marking used in Ohio that cannot be used to tie a book to a particular pedigree without better provenance.  Similar markings were also used in Colorado.  One theory is that the initial letter denotes a distributor. 

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1. A lot of these books were probably bought at conventions or mail-order by the collector from the same dealer(s) back in the 60's and 70's.

2. Given their apparent high grade it's entirely possible that these were part of a pedigree collection sold either through conventions or mail-order. 

3. While some of them have distributor codes/dates that look familiar, you should check the actual pedigrees for comparables and look for gaps in pictures from titles posted to help bolster a claim with a grading service. 

Here's the link to Matt's old site with submitted books (hope this helps)...

http://www.comicpedigrees.com 

:cheers:

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I'm thinking the same thing Cat.  I've reached out to the family to see if I can get any clarification on how, when, and where he purchased his comics.

I've looked at Matt's site and also Heritage's past sales history to see if I can see any familiar runs/time frames of comics.  So far, nothing concrete.

Thanks,

David

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On 8/14/2022 at 2:09 PM, RareHighGrade said:

Wow, those are gorgeous books!  Yes, the markings on the first two books are consistent with Ohios.  I don't recognize the others.  So this is not an original owner collection?

The esteemed RHG is most likely correct.  The 'C' code could be Ohio books.  The others aren't consistent with any pedigree to my knowledge.  

The 'P' stamp looks very consistent with a number of 'T' stamp books I've seen from the same era.  I've tried to find out about their history with no success.  

Very pretty books nonetheless.  

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I reached out to the family and this is what they had to say.  Do any of you know if the store's he has mentioned dealt in the Ohio Pedigree collection?  I've read that they were bought over the years by a few dealers and spread out.

 

I’ll give you as much information as I can about his collection.
 
I believe he started collecting in the late 60’s as a kid in Pittsburgh. My parents moved to Lexington in the late 70’s and he continued going to shows through the late 80’s. He continued to buy books off the shelf through probably 2000.
 
Although he stopped going to shows he was still active in trading comics with local shops and as far away as Louisville and Cincinnati. He would give boxes of comics to them as they went to shows. They would to buy/trade/sell his things and shop for the books he was looking for.
 
Locally the shops I remember are both closed: Red Rock Collectibles (Ken Rayfield) and Collectibles Etc (I can’t remember the father/son duo that ran the shop). 
 
Collectibles Etc is no longer here but the shop is now A+ Comics and Collectibles. I’ve been in a few times but don’t recognize anybody there. 
 
In Louisville I believe he worked with Great Escape. In Cincinnati, he visited Queen City Comics. Not sure how much business he did with either but I know he would go there once or twice a year.
 
There’s a lot to go through but some of the comics have original boards and/or price stickers from the shops/dealers he bought them from. One more thing to catalog and track :)
 
If I can think of any more stores or people I’ll be sure to send the info your way.
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