lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I asked an eBay seller why he has CGC verification numbers covered up with tape. This was the response: Hello, we happen to live 1 mile from CGC headquarters. Word spreads quickly here. The word is that CGC will be making comic owners information public. So with just the CGC number, I will be able to go on their site and see who the owner of the comic is. Personally, I don't want anybody knowing some of the comics I have. It invites all sorts of issues, not to mention that it borders on being an invasion of privacy.With the number being covered, whomever the purchaser is can rest assured that nobody outside this circle will ever know that he/she owns it.Regards grendelbo, ThothAmon, Turnando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 I would just assume they are selling stolen property. Am I being too suspicious? Raze and MetalPSI 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GACollectibles Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:49 AM, lizards2 said: I would just assume they are selling stolen property. Am I being too suspicious? I think it would depend on the validity or their belief in the validity of this statement: On 11/11/2022 at 9:49 AM, lizards2 said: The word is that CGC will be making comic owners information public. They could just be operating on incorrect information as opposed to selling stolen merchandise. Are they a newer or established seller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:49 AM, lizards2 said: The word is that CGC will be making comic owners information public @CGC Mike Any opinion on this seller's proposal that CGC has signaled an intention to institute policies that are directly contrary to prevailing data privacy regulations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterlogan2000 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 8:49 AM, lizards2 said: So with just the CGC number, I will be able to go on their site and see who the owner of the comic is. To me, this is absurd. Three thoughts... 1) This is an incredible violation of privacy. 2) Once the book leaves their hands, CGC's chain of custody is broken, and they can't correctly or accurately identify who the owner is. 3) Given the lack of trust and all their recent (and not so recent) shenanigans... I wouldn't put it past CGC as something they would try to pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 7:07 AM, masterlogan2000 said: To me, this is absurd. Three thoughts... 1) This is an incredible violation of privacy. 2) Once the book leaves their hands, CGC's chain of custody is broken, and they can't correctly or accurately identify who the owner is. 3) Given the lack of trust and all their recent (and not so recent) shenanigans... I wouldn't put it past CGC as something they would try to pull. #2 was definitely one of my thoughts on why this would never happen - many books are just flipped too much. KirbyJack, Larryw7, Raze and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 My understanding is that some people cover the cert numbers so someone else doesn't try to add them to their registry sets. Why a seller on ebay covers them, who knows. ebay sellers do weird things. Raze and ThothAmon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 6:57 AM, GACollectibles said: Are they a newer or established seller? I don't know what the criteria might be for that. But here are their stats: 99.6% Positive feedback 3.9K Items sold 107 Followers ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Either this person is seriously misinformed, or they are up to no-good. Pass. Raze and Juno Beach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 7:12 AM, Ryan. said: ebay sellers do weird things. As weird as the stuff I do to you? Mystafo, BuscemasAvengers, Larryw7 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 10:15 AM, lizards2 said: As weird as the stuff I do to you? If it's sexy it's not weird. MetalPSI , Mystafo, lizards2 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLeagueCHEW Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) On 11/11/2022 at 7:12 AM, Ryan. said: My understanding is that some people cover the cert numbers so someone else doesn't try to add them to their registry sets. Why a seller on ebay covers them, who knows. ebay sellers do weird things. I thought this as well, we have boardie's that do this. I don't see it as being an issue on the sellers part. Just being over protective of the book. Honestly I can put a photo of my book, with serial number, and anyone can search the registry to see that I own it. Unless I obscure? @lizards2 Edited November 11, 2022 by BigLeagueCHEW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 8:49 AM, lizards2 said: I asked an eBay seller why he has CGC verification numbers covered up with tape. This was the response: Hello, we happen to live 1 mile from CGC headquarters. Word spreads quickly here. The word is that CGC will be making comic owners information public. So with just the CGC number, I will be able to go on their site and see who the owner of the comic is. Personally, I don't want anybody knowing some of the comics I have. It invites all sorts of issues, not to mention that it borders on being an invasion of privacy.With the number being covered, whomever the purchaser is can rest assured that nobody outside this circle will ever know that he/she owns it.Regards My instinct (pessimist, here lol) would be they do it in the hopes they can always claim it's not the same book they sold if something is up with it. They more than likely wouldn't realize how easy it can be to id a book's defects, wrap, etc. if it's not NM modern. DISCLAIMER - Obviously I may (likely) not know what I'm talking about! lizards2, ThothAmon and Larryw7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 7:18 AM, BigLeagueCHEW said: I thought this as well, we have boardie's that do this. I don't see it as being an issue on the sellers part. Just being over protective of the book. Honestly I can put a photo of my book, with serial number, and anyone can search the registry to see that I own it. Unless I obscure? @lizards2 I don't look at the registry, and don't really understand the motivation for why people even care about it. Surely, you've seen my avatar block. Larryw7, BigLeagueCHEW and ThothAmon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 7:20 AM, Mystafo said: My instinct (pessimist, here lol) would be they do it in the hopes they can always claim it's not the same book they sold if something is up with it. They more than likely wouldn't realize how easy it can be to id a book's defects, wrap, etc. if it's not NM modern. DISCLAIMER - Obviously I may (likely) not know what I'm talking about! Ahh........, so why I noticed is I try to look up the grader's notes on CGC books before I buy them. However, to date, I've not had good results with this, as there seem to be a lot of books that are trashed in encapsulation or shipping after the graders are done with them. Also, so many books I try to look up have the notation "no grader's notes available" Mystafo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:36 AM, lizards2 said: Ahh........, so why I noticed is I try to look up the grader's notes on CGC books before I buy them. However, to date, I've not had good results with this, as there seem to be a lot of books that are trashed in encapsulation or shipping after the graders are done with them. Also, so many books I try to look up have the notation "no grader's notes available" Yea this has been my experience as well when I try the same....once in a great while it would point out something obvious that just didn't show up well in the pics, but mostly a futile exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 10:32 AM, lizards2 said: I don't look at the registry, and don't really understand the motivation for why people even care about it. Surely, you've seen my avatar block. Same here. If someone wants to use my pic to say that it's their book, go for it ... wouldn't bother me at all. B2D327 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator CGC Mike Posted November 11, 2022 Administrator Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 10:03 AM, Ryan. said: @CGC Mike Any opinion on this seller's proposal that CGC has signaled an intention to institute policies that are directly contrary to prevailing data privacy regulations? I'll check but, I am pretty much certain this is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Balls Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 7:49 AM, lizards2 said: I asked an eBay seller why he has CGC verification numbers covered up with tape. This was the response: Hello, we happen to live 1 mile from CGC headquarters. Word spreads quickly here. The word is that CGC will be making comic owners information public. So with just the CGC number, I will be able to go on their site and see who the owner of the comic is. Personally, I don't want anybody knowing some of the comics I have. It invites all sorts of issues, not to mention that it borders on being an invasion of privacy.With the number being covered, whomever the purchaser is can rest assured that nobody outside this circle will ever know that he/she owns it.Regards That sounds like a runaround answer to: "The book is messed up on the inside" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 9:31 AM, Dr. Balls said: That sounds like a runaround answer to: "The book is messed up on the inside" One I was looking at a was a 9.4, which I know, could be a 9.0. Several others were in lower grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...