Motor City Rob Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 5/20/2023 at 3:06 PM, JollyComics said: Sounds like an entrapment. They intend to overgrade books. I sold my restored Marvel Spotlight #5 to them last year. Not sure what you mean by entrapment. Almost everything in their auction is CGC graded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 8:51 AM, Motor City Rob said: Not sure what you mean by entrapment. Almost everything in their auction is CGC graded. Yes, it was in past. I bought few raw books from the same sellers but nearly all of them were overgraded. The sellers trapped me few times so I decided not to purchase their books anymore. I think they are trying to make it up and bring relationships back. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_W Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Has anyone has any luck getting in touch with them? I had a couple of questions a couple of months ago that I sent using their links at the bottom and I never got a response. I just tried again but will probably give up if I dont get a response this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 11:29 AM, JollyComics said: Yes, it was in past. I bought few raw books from the same sellers but nearly all of them were overgraded. The sellers trapped me few times so I decided not to purchase their books anymore. I think they are trying to make it up and bring relationships back. No thanks. I see. Sorry that happened to you. JollyComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 On 8/15/2023 at 11:41 AM, Stefan_W said: Has anyone has any luck getting in touch with them? I had a couple of questions a couple of months ago that I sent using their links at the bottom and I never got a response. I just tried again but will probably give up if I dont get a response this time around. Email them directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Isn't Mark Wilson involved with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Pontoon Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 3:26 AM, Larryw7 said: Isn't Mark Wilson involved with them? I cringed when I read your post. After a quick visit to Google, I see that Collectors Comics is run by Thomas and David Wilson - Mark's sons. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toro Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 I sent some books into Collectors Comics to test the waters. If all the winners pay, (a big if) then I will be seriously happy with this auction site, despite their clumsy web site. Nick Furious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanders82 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) On 8/16/2023 at 12:26 AM, Larryw7 said: Isn't Mark Wilson involved with them? On 8/16/2023 at 4:52 AM, MR. Pontoon said: I cringed when I read your post. After a quick visit to Google, I see that Collectors Comics is run by Thomas and David Wilson - Mark's sons. I'm assuming this is the same guy. I'm not a big fan of one of his son's youtube channels, but I'm not about to judge someone based on how closely related they are to a possible crook. I'd hate to be judged by my closest relatives instead of by my own actions. Unless I hear that the sons are dirtbags, I wish them the best of luck with collectors comics. I've used them before and was happy with my winnings, but I've yet to sell some of the dreck I've listed there. Edited August 21, 2023 by Flanders82 WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Furious Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 10:13 PM, toro said: I sent some books into Collectors Comics to test the waters. If all the winners pay, (a big if) then I will be seriously happy with this auction site, despite their clumsy web site. Please keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telegan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) From watching a few of the auctions, it seemed like some went a bit below what I would call "fair price" while others went at or above. So pretty much like every other auction. I was tripped up by the countdown timer on each of the books because when as I scrolled down, I didn't realize the countdown timer for each auction was on top of the comic, not the timer on the bottom. So I would see an auction say ended but a timer I thought was for that comic was still ticking away. lol. Maybe throw some boundaries around the comics and associated timers would be my only suggestion thus far. Well, that and I wish they would make use of a hover-over zoom on their main images on the auction pages. That way I don't have to click the comic which opens another tab where I can see the comic a bit closer. Edited August 21, 2023 by Telegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiparker824 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I bid on dozens of books in the latest auction, but only won one book, only book that actually went for around the 90 day gpa average. A couple things, the no fee thing is mostly true (assume it is for sellers) but there was a 3.5% buyer premium added unless I opted to send him PayPal directly using “friends and family”. I didn’t really care about the 3.5%, just felt odd to me that a legit business was asking me to PayPal them directly using friends and family on the checkout page, so I just paid normally and took the fee. The website is incredibly buggy. Constantly signed me out, often wouldn’t even let me sign in on mobile, and for the love of god anytime you load any page it throws a pop up for a giveaway. Searching, sorting, filtering all suffer tremendously as well but that pop up was by far the most annoying thing. So when you consider all of that I’m not surprised he’s not charging seller fees, I’m more surprised the prices he’s hitting on auctions. There were a number of books I was bidding on that were in identical grade as the CL auction that ended a week ago that all went higher than CL’s hammer price. It did seem to me though that books that were sub 1k all were doing very well, anything over that and it was coming close to last GPA but not usually getting there and if it did barely. That’s just my anecdotal take from the 50 or so books I was tracking or bidding on over the last few days. But I do think the YT and social media carried some books, and I do think like whatnot there are people that want to buy a book from the person they watch on YouTube. Which is exactly why I probably will stay away altogether in the future. Generally speaking I think it’s a good plan to hook sellers with no fees. Buyers will come if you get the sellers but you have to fix this website. But I can’t see myself wanting to fight with people who just want to buy a book from this site because they like his YT channel. Dick Pontoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telegan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 11:58 PM, wiparker824 said: I bid on dozens of books in the latest auction, but only won one book, only book that actually went for around the 90 day gpa average. A couple things, the no fee thing is mostly true (assume it is for sellers) but there was a 3.5% buyer premium added unless I opted to send him PayPal directly using “friends and family”. I didn’t really care about the 3.5%, just felt odd to me that a legit business was asking me to PayPal them directly using friends and family on the checkout page, so I just paid normally and took the fee. The website is incredibly buggy. Constantly signed me out, often wouldn’t even let me sign in on mobile, and for the love of god anytime you load any page it throws a pop up for a giveaway. Searching, sorting, filtering all suffer tremendously as well but that pop up was by far the most annoying thing. So when you consider all of that I’m not surprised he’s not charging seller fees, I’m more surprised the prices he’s hitting on auctions. There were a number of books I was bidding on that were in identical grade as the CL auction that ended a week ago that all went higher than CL’s hammer price. It did seem to me though that books that were sub 1k all were doing very well, anything over that and it was coming close to last GPA but not usually getting there and if it did barely. That’s just my anecdotal take from the 50 or so books I was tracking or bidding on over the last few days. But I do think the YT and social media carried some books, and I do think like whatnot there are people that want to buy a book from the person they watch on YouTube. Which is exactly why I probably will stay away altogether in the future. Generally speaking I think it’s a good plan to hook sellers with no fees. Buyers will come if you get the sellers but you have to fix this website. But I can’t see myself wanting to fight with people who just want to buy a book from this site because they like his YT channel. I was on my desktop and didn't really have any issues with being logged out, but yes... that ad for the giveaway was a bit annoying. toro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan_W Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 12:58 AM, wiparker824 said: I bid on dozens of books in the latest auction, but only won one book, only book that actually went for around the 90 day gpa average. A couple things, the no fee thing is mostly true (assume it is for sellers) but there was a 3.5% buyer premium added unless I opted to send him PayPal directly using “friends and family”. I didn’t really care about the 3.5%, just felt odd to me that a legit business was asking me to PayPal them directly using friends and family on the checkout page, so I just paid normally and took the fee. The fee is probably because Paypal charges a fee for G&S transactions but no fee for F&F. Since there is no commission that cost would have to be eaten by Collector's Comics which would make absolutely no sense. There is a world of difference between not making any money and losing money. ttfitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I had 3 books in this just closed auction, as a trial. Nothing worth more than $150-$200. The first ended where I thought it would, almost to the dollar. The second book ended at 40% of where i expected. Puke. the third book ended at about 75% of what I expected. Blah. All in all I would consider the experiment a failure but won't rule out sending books in the future if the site gets more traction. Number 6, Flanders82 and greggy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanders82 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 @Ryan. had any luck selling things at BIN/OBO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 4:36 PM, Flanders82 said: @Ryan. had any luck selling things at BIN/OBO? Haven't tried yet but maybe I'll give that a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toro Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 I was very disappointed with last month's Clink results, these for the most part met or exceeded my hopes on finishing bid. For example my X-Men #50 in 5.0 ended at $210, one dollar less than an X-Men #50 in 5.5 ended for on on Clink. An X-Men #7 I had in 4.5 sold for $215. The last Clink sale of a 4.0 went for $153. Again these results could be a one time anomaly. I was very happy with the raw books.Again, if the buyers do pay I will be happy. That contest book though was super annoying. WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiparker824 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 12:35 PM, Stefan_W said: The fee is probably because Paypal charges a fee for G&S transactions but no fee for F&F. Since there is no commission that cost would have to be eaten by Collector's Comics which would make absolutely no sense. There is a world of difference between not making any money and losing money. I get it, but it’s also against PayPal’s user agreement to abuse the F&F like that, and why you don’t see most businesses ask you to send them money on F&F anymore. Cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastfeast Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 8/21/2023 at 8:06 PM, wiparker824 said: I get it, but it’s also against PayPal’s user agreement to abuse the F&F like that, and why you don’t see most businesses ask you to send them money on F&F anymore. It's also tax dodging. wiparker824 and Cat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...