Popular Post Dark Knight Posted June 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2023 Found this old thread regarding the Supes #1 printings AJD, Primetime, Aman619 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) On 6/12/2023 at 7:52 AM, october said: Are we sure the 2nd print didn't also say June 2nd and only the 3rd says "now on sale"? That could be true. I can’t verify that though. I thought I heard that the 2nd/3rd print are not distinguishable from each other… @G.A.tor would know. Edited June 12, 2023 by Primetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 On 6/12/2023 at 8:25 AM, Captainwonder said: Is that your sensation 1? I’d love one someday The photo is a friend’s and they are his books in the photo. Captainwonder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Goldin looks like ET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoarder Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 dumb question, but is there any increase or decrease in value and desirability for different Superman 1 printings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AJD Posted June 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/14/2023 at 12:39 PM, Hoarder said: dumb question, but is there any increase or decrease in value and desirability for different Superman 1 printings? Not dumb at all. As far as I can tell, the answer is "there ought to be, given what collectors typically value, but this book is uncommon enough that in practice there is little or no premium for a first print". I'd add that once a copy is slabbed there's no way of knowing which print it is short of cracking it out, and CGC doesn't distinguish them in its notes. Further complicating matters is that fact that it's not clear (as far as I know) whether the second printing had the same indicator ad date as the first or the third. So a copy with "now on sale" in the ad for Action 14 could be a first or second, and one with "on sale June 2nd" could be a second or third. If I've got that wrong I'm happy to be corrected. october, KCOComics, lou_fine and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 10:14 PM, Dark Knight said: The AA #16 CGC 1.5 sold for $72k. Pretty high if you ask me. $72k for a 1.5 blue label seemed a little low to me as the book doesn’t come up often. But still a solid hammer price. On 6/8/2023 at 12:22 AM, aardvark88 said: Flash 86 first Black Canary GA seems soft to me even in 3.5. It’s most definitely an underrated book IMO. I owned a 2.5 at one point and absolutely loved that book. LDarkseid1 and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crowzilla Posted June 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/12/2023 at 2:52 AM, Primetime said: The first print Supe 1 has an Action 14 house ad that says “On sale June 2”. The 2nd/3rd prints have the same Action 14 ad but it says “Now on sale” I don’t think there is a way to differentiate between a 2nd and 3rd print Supe 1…? I'm going to always argue that because of the close time frame from Superman #1s on sale date (May 18th), to the House as that states the June 2nd release date of Action #14 as being "Now on sale", that the 2nd print is also a "Now on sale" variation, There's just not enough time to get the sales info back, order a reprint and get it distributed with June 2nd still being a future date. Bur regardless, I agree it's well past time for CGC to identify which house ad is inside - they don't need to claim 1st, 2nd, or 3rd print on the label, just identify the ad and let the market decide the value. lou_fine, Randall Dowling, Primetime and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/13/2023 at 7:55 PM, AJD said: So a copy with "now on sale" in the ad for Action 14 could be a first or second, and one with "on sale June 2nd" could be a second or third. Probably the EXACT reason why CGC doesn't differentiate between the various printings because they really can't tell and don't want to guess. Hence, the best solution is the one proposed below because it really should make a difference and the just let the marketplace itself decide: On 6/14/2023 at 2:46 AM, Crowzilla said: I agree it's well past time for CGC to identify which house ad is inside - they don't need to claim 1st, 2nd, or 3rd print on the label, just identify the ad and let the market decide the value. AJD, Point Five and MAR1979 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Point Five Posted June 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2023 I'm not sure which print my copy is, but I just checked the ad and it says Action #753 is now on sale. szucchini, Bronty, Dark Knight and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr bla bla Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/13/2023 at 11:16 PM, Chicago Boy said: Goldin looks like ET Right out of Area 51 ? Chicago Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Four hours left and Supes 1 is at 1.38 mil with the juice included. Action 1 slightly lagging behind. Both solidly behind a bat once used by Ty Cobb that’s almost at 2 mil. Jesus sports memorabilia can sell BIG!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sfcityduck Posted June 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 6/14/2023 at 2:46 AM, Crowzilla said: Bur regardless, I agree it's well past time for CGC to identify which house ad is inside - they don't need to claim 1st, 2nd, or 3rd print on the label, just identify the ad and let the market decide the value. I'm curious why CGC hasn't done it. After all, as soon as they add the notation "on sale June 3rd variant" or "now on sale variant" to the label, there will be a rush of collectors resubmitting their "June 3rd variant" copies to get the price bump (which is inevitable). More money for CGC. Any copy that comes to market after CGC adds a "June 3rd variant" notation will be assumed to be the "now on sale" version, but smart buyers will crack it out to see if they got a winfall. Still more money for CGC. Unless Halperin is sitting on a really nice "now on sale" copy, I'm not sure why CGC hasn't done this yet. This is not like MC 1 where you can see on the cover which version it is (but they still should be broken out also). Randall Dowling, Point Five, MAR1979 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Coming down to the wire, less than an hour left. Edited June 15, 2023 by LDarkseid1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 6/14/2023 at 3:46 PM, szav said: If the first print is more common as someone stated, then I’m not sure you’ll see those skyrocket in value as much as you might just see people pay less for the later dated prints. People are already paying just about as much a premium as they can possibly afford to right now for any copy at all. If you don’t know the version of your slabbed copy you’re paying 4% just to find out it might be a later print and you’re risking a lower grade just to find out. I think it potentially makes a huge mess if they change practice now. The printing figures I've seen support that the original print run is not more prevalent. In any event, as one of the variants will encompass two print runs, and the other won't, we can't know which is more prevalent until CGC starts counting. But I don't think that matters. The earlier printing(s) of Superman 1 will outperform a later print. That's just the way most of us collectors (apologies to the OCD modern collectors) think about these things. First prints are special, later printings less so. It is the book collecting tradition that infuses our culture. And I think you are missing my point. If CGC wants to maximize profit (and they never seem to lose an opportunity), then they will start noting the two variants on the label. Why? Because it will inevitably cause resubmissions. A lot of people probably don't know what printing they've got. As soon as CGC notes the variation, they're likely going to crack out their books to see if they are on the lucky side. Anyone who doesn't crack out their book and resubmit is going to be assumed to be selling a "now on sale" version. Heck, any recently graded copy that doesn't disclose what the interior ad says is clearly a "now on sale" version. Why wouldn't they disclose the ad content if it could hype the book? Silence is damning. So the price will be depressed for "now on sale" variants no matter what. Buyers not in the know as to what they have will have a big incentive to crack our their book to see if they are lucky. Bottom line, cgc can expect more big book submissions by including the notation. They might well offer a discount to incentivize those resubmissions. It would be smart business to do so for a limited period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Action 1 landed at 1.5 mil. I mean that seems pretty solid. Feels like not long ago that was a $450K book, well years ago 😅. Edited June 15, 2023 by LDarkseid1 Chicago Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) On 6/14/2023 at 9:07 PM, LDarkseid1 said: Action 1 landed at 1.5 mil. I mean that seems pretty solid. Feels like not long ago that was a $450K book, well years ago 😅. $500k ppp Nice! Edited June 15, 2023 by Chicago Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Action #1 CGC 3.0 sold for $1.5 mil Pep Comics #22 CGC 6.5 sold for $180k Superman #1 CGC 7.0 (previously sold for $2.6 mil @ CC) sold for $1.6 mil. Yikes, quite the haircut LDarkseid1 and Primetime 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) Whats a middle of the road coverless, complete Action 1 go for? 150k? Edited June 15, 2023 by Chicago Boy LDarkseid1 and Dark Knight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 (edited) On 6/14/2023 at 7:17 PM, Dark Knight said: Action #1 CGC 3.0 sold for $1.5 mil Pep Comics #22 CGC 6.5 sold for $180k Superman #1 CGC 7.0 (previously sold for $2.6 mil @ CC) sold for $1.6 mil. Yikes, quite the haircut Yeah the Supes 1 seems very very blah 😬 Edited June 15, 2023 by LDarkseid1 Mmehdy, aardvark88 and Chicago Boy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
