Hero Restoration, Anyone know the latest? 24 24

[DR.X]

On 6/21/2024 at 1:00 PM, Sauce Dog said:

 (AFAIK he's been selling customer books for at least 10 years)

What a POS.

[JAUITO]

On 6/21/2024 at 2:00 PM, Sauce Dog said:

This is actually one of the biggest public smoking guns when it comes to him reselling customer books, so much so that the sheriff investigating this should be put into contact with MCS to discuss the details. It is honestly surprising how long he's been able to sell customer books without such public evidence popping up (AFAIK he's been selling customer books for at least 10 years)

While it is possible he sold it to someone who was totally unaware of its providence I see that as being highly unlikely. From his past text messages we have seen him tell people certain books were 'hot' and should be sat on to avoid trouble, so being ignorant of the books he is selling is almost impossible at this point. He has a some remaining acquaintances that could cosign the book for him so that might be the case (some used to be past Hero employees that he maintained contact with, and I've been told one of them stored customer books at their own home after it shut down).

I went on eBay and found 5 or 6 of my books listed there I contacted my comic shop and cc the detective

[Nilo2]

 

On 6/21/2024 at 3:18 PM, JAUITO said:

I went on eBay and found 5 or 6 of my books listed there I contacted my comic shop and cc the detective

I am so sorry to hear this. At least we both know where our books are... I was corresponding with MCS earlier today and they mentioned that someone else had come forward about other books being stolen. I also cc'd the detective from the Linn County Sheriff's office in Oregon on all of my email correspondence. I haven't heard back form him just yet but MCS has so far been very proactive. Fingers crossed that we both get our books back.

[Tec-Tac-Toe]

On 6/21/2024 at 3:04 PM, DR.X said:

What a POS.

Thus, it appears, this guy was a thief feigning to be a reputable business person for quite some time, if not from, as they say, the get-go.

Clearly, others know more than I about HR, so I'm deducing based on what I have read on these boards.

[Winsomesixsquid]

I went to check out there page and guess what. I found my book. Another positive identification of an AF 15. 

[Poka]

On 6/23/2024 at 10:35 AM, Winsomesixsquid said:

I went to check out there page and guess what. I found my book. Another positive identification of an AF 15. 

It is a consignment item. Consignor is humble cow. Not sure if same consignor as the others but he also has another AF15 and many other valuable books. Here is a link to the consigned CGC items of the consignor sorted by price. Maybe someone who has a list / pictures of the missing books can check whether same consignor have other books from hero

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?sn=humble cow&cgc=y&srt=price

 

 

Edited Sunday at 04:26 AM by Poka

[KCOComics]

On 6/22/2024 at 11:00 PM, Poka said:

It is a consignment item. Consignor is humble cow. Not sure if same consignor as the others but he also has another AF15 and many other valuable books. Here is a link to the consigned CGC items of the consignor sorted by price. Maybe someone who has a list / pictures of the missing books can check whether same consignor have other books from hero

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?sn=humble cow&cgc=y&srt=price

 

 

Wow!! That Planet #1!! 

I wonder how much will be shared about this person's involvement with Mike? I can't imagine someone knowingly bought stolen books and then very publicaly put them up for sale, together, on a popular site. 

It's just another example of why Mike needs to go to jail or prison.  His crimes amount to hundreds of thousands in stolen money and comics.  

 

[ChiSoxFan]

On 6/22/2024 at 10:00 PM, Poka said:

It is a consignment item. Consignor is humble cow. Not sure if same consignor as the others but he also has another AF15 and many other valuable books. Here is a link to the consigned CGC items of the consignor sorted by price. Maybe someone who has a list / pictures of the missing books can check whether same consignor have other books from hero

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?sn=humble cow&cgc=y&srt=price

I just got a notification from MCS for a book on my want list, Tec #140.  When I clicked on it, it was a low-grade raw copy -- and it's on consignment from the same consignor as above.  Posting the scan and link in case anyone might recognize this book as theirs.

This might be a legitimate consignment item, but where there's smoke, there's often fire as the saying goes.  If someone had one stolen book in their possession, there's a good chance they might have (by however it happened) ended up with others.

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=54698787

 

Edited Sunday at 03:30 PM by ChiSoxFan

[Nilo2]

On 6/22/2024 at 11:00 PM, Poka said:

It is a consignment item. Consignor is humble cow. Not sure if same consignor as the others but he also has another AF15 and many other valuable books. Here is a link to the consigned CGC items of the consignor sorted by price. Maybe someone who has a list / pictures of the missing books can check whether same consignor have other books from hero

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?sn=humble cow&cgc=y&srt=price

 

 

Unfortunately, I didn’t check to see who the consignor was on MCS’ site before they removed my book. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was the same handle though. Either way, “humble cow” has some explaining to due at a bare minimum. @Winsomesixsquid, make sure you copy the detective from the Linn County Sheriff’s office on your communications to MCS. Hopefully you are already in contact but if you need the contact info DM me.

[Semicentennial]

Well the consignor has a coverless copy of Detective 29 that would probably go well with the Detective 29 that was sent back to the owner with the wrong interior pages.

[flchris]

 

Slightly off topic, but how do you find a consignor’s screen name on MCS?

Edited Tuesday at 12:46 AM by flchris
Removed an unfounded conspiratorial notion

[Neo "The One"]

On 6/23/2024 at 1:54 PM, Semicentennial said:

Well the consignor has a coverless copy of Detective 29 that would probably go well with the Detective 29 that was sent back to the owner with the wrong interior pages.

OMG the plot thickens.

[Neo "The One"]

[Sauce Dog]

On 6/23/2024 at 1:54 PM, Semicentennial said:

Well the consignor has a coverless copy of Detective 29 that would probably go well with the Detective 29 that was sent back to the owner with the wrong interior pages.

I've passed this along to Kenny and we will see if the owner can identify it. The pages being so bleached makes me think Mike for sure was the one working on it (the only thing that makes me hesitate is that it is graded)

[Semicentennial]

On 6/23/2024 at 11:41 AM, Sauce Dog said:

I've passed this along to Kenny and we will see if the owner can identify it. The pages being so bleached makes me think Mike for sure was the one working on it (the only thing that makes me hesitate is that it is graded)

The book was graded recently.

CGC Cert #

4401912002

Title

Detective Comics

Issue

29

Issue Date

7/39

Issue Year

1939

Publisher

D.C. Comics

Grade

 

Page Quality

WHITE

Grade Date

03/22/2024

Grade Category

B-1

[Neo "The One"]

On 6/23/2024 at 2:49 PM, Semicentennial said:

The book was graded recently.

CGC Cert #

4401912002

Title

Detective Comics

Issue

29

Issue Date

7/39

Issue Year

1939

Publisher

D.C. Comics

Grade

 

Page Quality

WHITE

Grade Date

03/22/2024

Grade Category

B-1

This makes me sick

[Sauce Dog]

On 6/23/2024 at 11:30 AM, ChiSoxFan said:

I just got a notification from MCS for a book on my want list, Tec #140.  When I clicked on it, it was a low-grade raw copy -- and it's on consignment from the same consignor as above.  Posting the scan and link in case anyone might recognize this book as theirs.

This might be a legitimate consignment item, but where there's smoke, there's often fire as the saying goes.  If someone had one stolen book in their possession, there's a good chance they might have (by however it happened) ended up with others.

https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=54698787

 

I've reached out to another customer about this book - it matches the records for one of the other submissions to Hero Restoration, so I'll have them confirm if they ever got it back, and if not they can check the picture out to see if it's their book.

edit: Customer is still checking their records, but thus far has confirmed of the several books he sent to Hero Restoration in 2017 one of them has for sure not been returned - A showcase #17 (sent for tape removal on the spine). He was very grateful I reached out, as he totally forgot about them and is now freshly furious!

Edited Sunday at 08:43 PM by Sauce Dog

[Semicentennial]

Since there are so many eyes on CGC graded books, what are the chances that some of these books go to a different grading company, especially PGX, since they probably get fewer eyes on it.

[Nilo2]

On 6/23/2024 at 2:49 PM, Semicentennial said:

The book was graded recently.

CGC Cert #

4401912002

Title

Detective Comics

Issue

29

Issue Date

7/39

Issue Year

1939

Publisher

D.C. Comics

Grade

 

Page Quality

WHITE

Grade Date

03/22/2024

Grade Category

B-1

OK. It looks like many of these books were graded together at CGC. The Tec 29 (cert # 4401912002) was graded on 3/22/24. The same day that @Winsomesixsquid's AF15 was graded (cert # 4401912003). My AF15 (cert # 4411098010) was graded on the same day as the other restored AF15 (cert # 4411098012) that "humble cow" is consigning through MCS. Makes it very hard to believe that "Humble Cow" doesn't know the provenance of these books and likely points to many of them being stolen.

Edited Sunday at 07:08 PM by Nilo2

[unclezebo]

On 6/23/2024 at 2:06 PM, Nilo2 said:

Makes it very hard to believe that "Humble Cow" doesn't know the provenance of these books and likely points to many of them being stolen.

The fact that there seem to be a number of them consigned on a popular site that can track who put them up for sale, seems to point to some kind of desperation.