Rick2you2 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 If restoration work needs supplemental art to replace lost/damaged pieces of a page, does she do that, too? Or would I need someone else for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxjhnsn Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 (edited) On 2/13/2024 at 8:01 AM, Rick2you2 said: If restoration work needs supplemental art to replace lost/damaged pieces of a page, does she do that, too? Or would I need someone else for that? I didn't think to ask. I was missing one paste-up on the cover, but decided not to worry about it. This is the cover I mentioned. Basically, she lifted the logo, cleaned the page, neutralized it, and restored the logo. You can see that the number and month are missing. Edited February 13 by alxjhnsn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC25427N Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/13/2024 at 1:47 PM, alxjhnsn said: I didn't think to ask. I was missing one paste-up on the cover, but decided not to worry about it. This is the cover I mentioned. Basically, she lifted the logo, cleaned the page, neutralized it, and restored the logo. You can see that the number and month are missing. Thats neat! Do you have a before and after picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/13/2024 at 1:47 PM, alxjhnsn said: I didn't think to ask. I was missing one paste-up on the cover, but decided not to worry about it. This is the cover I mentioned. Basically, she lifted the logo, cleaned the page, neutralized it, and restored the logo. You can see that the number and month are missing. Has anyone started a restoration thread showing off their before and after, as well as explaining what they needed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxjhnsn Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 Not that I am aware of - other than this one, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxjhnsn Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 On 2/13/2024 at 1:42 PM, JC25427N said: Thats neat! Do you have a before and after picture? Yes, There's not a ton of difference since the logo was stained permanently and she doesn't like to bleach. You can see the the stain is a little lighter, but not much. Before: After: I was after stabilization of the paper and the neutralization of the rubber cement. She sent lots of pictures. These two show her lifting the logo (left) and the results of cleaning. JC25427N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlevy1 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 I am lucky, I am in driving range of Gordon Christman! drdroom and alxjhnsn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxjhnsn Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 On 11/27/2023 at 3:28 PM, cstojano said: Well that's concerning. I assumed most of the restoration work being done was due to sun damage in frames. Is it the colored pencils that aren't steadfast to the treatment or is the sun tanning a known "not treatable" condition. Nice Elfquest, BTW. I've used restorers mostly for neutralization of the paper, stabilization/repairs if there are physical issues, and glue removal. On only have one piece that is tanned (the one that I showed). I haven't seen many people talk about eliminating tanning. On 11/27/2023 at 7:17 PM, Will_K said: From the scan, it looks like markers. And if they were, they held up really well. I've seen there's such a thing as lightfast colored pencils. But never researched them. In any case, the art, paper and signature look great. I'd prefer the current look vs matte burn all around the drawing. Colored pencils. The feeling is that bleaching to get rid of the tan lines would damage the piece, i.e., you can't really get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 2/16/2024 at 11:20 AM, alxjhnsn said: I've used restorers mostly for neutralization of the paper, stabilization/repairs if there are physical issues, and glue removal. On only have one piece that is tanned (the one that I showed). I haven't seen many people talk about eliminating tanning. Colored pencils. The feeling is that bleaching to get rid of the tan lines would damage the piece, i.e., you can't really get rid of it. I swear this is what Robert Dennis did all the time (lighten pieces from tanning). I still haven't sent my piece in for evaluation. Also, don't post that EQ piece to the EQ Facebook group unless you want Richard berating you. I asked him about an upcoming piece at auction that was being discussed in terms of possible damage and instead of replying to me he posted my personal message to him on the EQ fan page with a whole helping of disdain. Just what are they so angry about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Great thread and work shown. I do not know if he is still testing or working on items, aa few years back there was a thread where @427Impaler was showing his work and testing on removing lignin to lighten and restore suppleness to aged paper without removing ink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxjhnsn Posted February 17 Author Share Posted February 17 (edited) On 2/17/2024 at 4:41 PM, cstojano said: I swear this is what Robert Dennis did all the time (lighten pieces from tanning). I still haven't sent my piece in for evaluation. Yes, I understand that Robert would do that. I'm not saying not to, I am saying that Alexandra is resistant to the idea because it can damage the paper and others said that this particular piece would not benefit from it. I suspect in the case of the Pini piece that the color pencil might be removed the process, but that's just a guess. On 2/17/2024 at 4:41 PM, cstojano said: Also, don't post that EQ piece to the EQ Facebook group unless you want Richard berating you. I asked him about an upcoming piece at auction that was being discussed in terms of possible damage and instead of replying to me he posted my personal message to him on the EQ fan page with a whole helping of disdain. Just what are they so angry about? No clue. My engagements with them have been pleasant enough though I know a few who have had odd or bad experiences. I guess they are human. Edited February 17 by alxjhnsn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdroom Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 11/26/2023 at 6:30 PM, alxjhnsn said: One of the two most commonly mentioned comic art restorers is Robert Dennis. Robert attended the proceedings of January 6th, 2021 in Washington, D. C. and was convicted of attacking officers. He was later sentenced to 36 months in prison and fined. Classic Alex Johnson just-the-facts post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 8:56 PM, drdroom said: Classic Alex Johnson just-the-facts post. With some of the backlogs these restorers have Robert may still be quicker (it's a joke). mtlevy1 and drdroom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxjhnsn Posted February 21 Author Share Posted February 21 On 2/19/2024 at 9:56 PM, drdroom said: Classic Alex Johnson just-the-facts post. https://www.metv.com/stories/sgt-joe-friday-never-actually-said-just-the-facts-maam-on-dragnet drdroom and Twanj 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...