ASM # 42 COVER ART

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[Mushroom]

All a buyer can do is throws gobs of cash,...or bags of cash and hope it works,..the owner has something better than cash,..OA !!!

 

 

I have always said you are an insufficiently_thoughtful_person. When do the drugs wear off or are you under constant medication. OA is better than cash?????

[krazykat-migration]

Yes. OA is better than Cash. In the 80's I was offered $100K for my Captain America # 1 Cover and I said no. Today,..it is worth $5 Million. And I am still not selling. Why you ask ? Because once I sell,..it is gone,...I can probably come up with $5 Million if I needed it. But chances are,...Id never be the guardian of the Cap # 1 again. Right now it is in a climate controlled environment and I have dedicated my life to preserving it along with my X-Men # 1 Cover Art,...and the rest of my unmentionables. I feel privileged to have been the guardian of stewardship over these pricess artifacts. What would I do with $$$$ ?,....I have already eaten in pretty much every restaurant in NYC and seen every Broadway Show twice ! ?

 

KK

[*paull*]

That money obviously can't buy you any class.

[krazykat-migration]

That money obviously can't buy you any class.

 

Education is over-rated.

[Mushroom]

Yes. OA is better than Cash. In the 80's I was offered $100K for my Captain America # 1 Cover and I said no. Today,..it is worth $5 Million. And I am still not selling. Why you ask ? Because once I sell,..it is gone,...I can probably come up with $5 Million if I needed it. But chances are,...Id never be the guardian of the Cap # 1 again. Right now it is in a climate controlled environment and I have dedicated my life to preserving it along with my X-Men # 1 Cover Art,...and the rest of my unmentionables. I feel privileged to have been the guardian of stewardship over these pricess artifacts. What would I do with $$$$ ?,....I have already eaten in pretty much every restaurant in NYC and seen every Broadway Show twice ! ?

 

KK

 

Let's just say that December 1927 happens again and you need a hamburger, your Cap #1 is probably worth jack but your dollar still gets you a hamburger.

 

If OA is worth more than cash then why do you place its' value in monetary terms, why assess its' importance with such a crass measure as the gold backed dollar. You need to elevate it up to a higher plane of valuation...something that more befits its' importance.

[krazykat-migration]

In the Global Economy the dollar is a more risky asset than the commoditized art of OA. Especially,...in the environment in which we live with a Terror risk and High Inflation risk. Why do you think the stuff has gone up so much within the last 18 months. I continue to predict OA will 'Blow peoples minds' in terms of $$$ thast are attracted to it in the coming years.

 

Moreover,..the reason I refer to value in monetary terms like the gold backed dollar is for objective measurable reference. I could just as well compare it with Wheat futures, Pork Bellies, or the yen. That said, in terms of where the market is,...and where I think its going....as Ive said over and over,..THE STUFF IS STILL DIRT CHEAP. Hence,...my conclusion: Id rather have OA than Cash in many instances based on todays market prices which are unjustifiably low.

[tth2]

That money obviously can't buy you any class.

[heartened]

As far as I know the ASM 42 is not for sale at any price. The owner has it up for offers but he really wants to trade it for a better ASM twice up cover. Whenever I've tried to get a price out of this guy I've been informed that he really wants to trade.

 

As to it's value I'd put it at 50k.

 

Glen

 

Gotta disagree with you & Hari. You guys keep looking at the last sale as the basis for determining worth. At least, I assume you two are allowing the ASM #41 sale at 60K influence your assesment of worth because thats the only way Id be able to come up with a 50K number.

 

But that is like driving by looking at the rear-view mirror.

 

If the owner will not sell below 100K which I am reasonably confident he wont,...one needs to come up with the owners price in order for supply to meet demand,...otherwise,..there is no sale price. I am not saying that the owner determine's worth,...but he does have the ability to exert a reasonable influence of price based on his willingness to sell -- and this always trumps the buyers desire to set price. All a buyer can do is throws gobs of cash,...or bags of cash and hope it works,..the owner has something better than cash,..OA !!!

 

I am pretty confident, however, that the only way this piece gets out of this owners hands is either a trade with a comparabloe or better Cover,...or a price north of 100K,...somewhere between 110K - 150K. No way will this piece ever sell for anything less than 100K,...no way,...I have offered that and been turned down. Moreover,..Ill pay that any day of the week as I remember reading this book at Jones Beach when I was a young KITTEN.

 

Hi KK,

 

I understand what you're saying, but just because someone offers 100K (in this case, you) doesn't mean it's worth that. In an auction, if you bid 100K and the next highest bidder is 40K, the piece sells for 41K. That's because there isn't enough demand to drive the price higher. So, in this example, the ASM cover would be personally worth 100K to you and the seller, but it only sells for 41K. Value therefore is 41K, because that's all you'd get if you had to sell it.

 

I've bought items for 20K that are only "worth" 10K. Does the value then miraculously climb to 20K? Yes, it does personally to me, but the market value is still 10K. And, it may take several years for the market value to rise enough to overtake what I have into it.

 

Best,

[krazykat-migration]

As far as I know the ASM 42 is not for sale at any price. The owner has it up for offers but he really wants to trade it for a better ASM twice up cover. Whenever I've tried to get a price out of this guy I've been informed that he really wants to trade.

 

As to it's value I'd put it at 50k.

 

Glen

 

Gotta disagree with you & Hari. You guys keep looking at the last sale as the basis for determining worth. At least, I assume you two are allowing the ASM #41 sale at 60K influence your assesment of worth because thats the only way Id be able to come up with a 50K number.

 

But that is like driving by looking at the rear-view mirror.

 

If the owner will not sell below 100K which I am reasonably confident he wont,...one needs to come up with the owners price in order for supply to meet demand,...otherwise,..there is no sale price. I am not saying that the owner determine's worth,...but he does have the ability to exert a reasonable influence of price based on his willingness to sell -- and this always trumps the buyers desire to set price. All a buyer can do is throws gobs of cash,...or bags of cash and hope it works,..the owner has something better than cash,..OA !!!

 

I am pretty confident, however, that the only way this piece gets out of this owners hands is either a trade with a comparabloe or better Cover,...or a price north of 100K,...somewhere between 110K - 150K. No way will this piece ever sell for anything less than 100K,...no way,...I have offered that and been turned down. Moreover,..Ill pay that any day of the week as I remember reading this book at Jones Beach when I was a young KITTEN.

 

Hi KK,

 

I understand what you're saying, but just because someone offers 100K (in this case, you) doesn't mean it's worth that. In an auction, if you bid 100K and the next highest bidder is 40K, the piece sells for 41K. That's because there isn't enough demand to drive the price higher. So, in this example, the ASM cover would be personally worth 100K to you and the seller, but it only sells for 41K. Value therefore is 41K, because that's all you'd get if you had to sell it.

 

I've bought items for 20K that are only "worth" 10K. Does the value then miraculously climb to 20K? Yes, it does personally to me, but the market value is still 10K. And, it may take several years for the market value to rise enough to overtake what I have into it.

 

Best,

 

Hari,

 

I hear ya. I merely am sating my opinion that (1) the piece will never sell for less than 100K as I have offered that and been rebuffed and (2) in a no reserve auction,...while anything can happen,...Id be surprised to see it sell for less than 75K.

 

Thats all I was saying.

 

KK

[delekkerste]

What would I do with $$$$ ?,....I have already eaten in pretty much every restaurant in NYC and seen every Broadway Show twice ! ?

 

What would you do with $$$$? Maybe get out of New York once in a while, for starters? See the world? Start a business? Go to college? Help people? Find a wife? And if $5 million is really so little to you compared to your love of OA, perhaps you should be starting a comic book art museum so that you can share the joys of OA with the public? I mean, what good is simply preserving these treasures if nobody but you ever gets to see them?

 

I'm sorry, if all you do is antagonize people on this Forum and go to dinner & Broadway shows for fun, while your primary goal in life is to hide your art collection from the rest of the world, that sounds like a pretty miserable existence.

[pkveronese]

What would I do with $$$$ ?,....I have already eaten in pretty much every restaurant in NYC and seen every Broadway Show twice ! ?

 

What would you do with $$$$? Maybe get out of New York once in a while, for starters? See the world? Start a business? Go to college? Help people? Find a wife? And if $5 million is really so little to you compared to your love of OA, perhaps you should be starting a comic book art museum so that you can share the joys of OA with the public? I mean, what good is simply preserving these treasures if nobody but you ever gets to see them?

 

I'm sorry, if all you do is antagonize people on this Forum and go to dinner & Broadway shows for fun, while your primary goal in life is to hide your art collection from the rest of the world, that sounds like a pretty miserable existence.

 

[october]

What would I do with $$$$ ?,....I have already eaten in pretty much every restaurant in NYC and seen every Broadway Show twice ! ?

 

What would you do with $$$$? Maybe get out of New York once in a while, for starters? See the world? Start a business? Go to college? Help people? Find a wife? And if $5 million is really so little to you compared to your love of OA, perhaps you should be starting a comic book art museum so that you can share the joys of OA with the public? I mean, what good is simply preserving these treasures if nobody but you ever gets to see them?

 

I'm sorry, if all you do is antagonize people on this Forum and go to dinner & Broadway shows for fun, while your primary goal in life is to hide your art collection from the rest of the world, that sounds like a pretty miserable existence.

 

[tth2]

Find a wife?

Maybe his interests don't swing that way, if you know what I mean? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[*paull*]

I'm sorry, if all you do is antagonize people on this Forum and go to dinner & Broadway shows for fun, while your primary goal in life is to hide your art collection from the rest of the world, that sounds like a pretty miserable existence.

 

[TLC55555]

What would I do with $$$$ ?,....I have already eaten in pretty much every restaurant in NYC and seen every Broadway Show twice ! ?

 

What would you do with $$$$? Maybe get out of New York once in a while, for starters? See the world? Start a business? Go to college? Help people? Find a wife? And if $5 million is really so little to you compared to your love of OA, perhaps you should be starting a comic book art museum so that you can share the joys of OA with the public? I mean, what good is simply preserving these treasures if nobody but you ever gets to see them?

 

I'm sorry, if all you do is antagonize people on this Forum and go to dinner & Broadway shows for fun, while your primary goal in life is to hide your art collection from the rest of the world, that sounds like a pretty miserable existence.

 

Of course he's miserable. Why else would he be such an arse. He wants to matter to someone, so he tries to make us all think he "Has the best OA collection ever assembled". I guess he figures that we'll all bow down and call him king. The unfortunate thing is that he can be somewhat informative about OA. If he was just a decent guy, he'd get the respect he obviously is so longing for.

[Aman619]

What would I do with $$$$ ?,....I have already eaten in pretty much every restaurant in NYC and seen every Broadway Show twice ! ?

 

What would you do with $$$$? Maybe get out of New York once in a while, for starters? See the world? Start a business? Go to college? Help people? Find a wife? And if $5 million is really so little to you compared to your love of OA, perhaps you should be starting a comic book art museum so that you can share the joys of OA with the public? I mean, what good is simply preserving these treasures if nobody but you ever gets to see them?

 

I'm sorry, if all you do is antagonize people on this Forum and go to dinner & Broadway shows for fun, while your primary goal in life is to hide your art collection from the rest of the world, that sounds like a pretty miserable existence.

 

just spot on perfect!

 

also, anyone else laughing at their keyboards that here we have KK pleading "HONEST" that he's telling the 'truth' after months of craap posts and lies and bluster? Too good to be true! You cant make this stuff up. Well maybe you can, like in the childs story of the boy who cried wolf.

 

Sorry KK. No bodys believes you. But you could sing us some of your favorite showtunes if you want..

[heartened]

As far as I know the ASM 42 is not for sale at any price. The owner has it up for offers but he really wants to trade it for a better ASM twice up cover. Whenever I've tried to get a price out of this guy I've been informed that he really wants to trade.

 

As to it's value I'd put it at 50k.

 

Glen

 

Gotta disagree with you & Hari. You guys keep looking at the last sale as the basis for determining worth. At least, I assume you two are allowing the ASM #41 sale at 60K influence your assesment of worth because thats the only way Id be able to come up with a 50K number.

 

But that is like driving by looking at the rear-view mirror.

 

If the owner will not sell below 100K which I am reasonably confident he wont,...one needs to come up with the owners price in order for supply to meet demand,...otherwise,..there is no sale price. I am not saying that the owner determine's worth,...but he does have the ability to exert a reasonable influence of price based on his willingness to sell -- and this always trumps the buyers desire to set price. All a buyer can do is throws gobs of cash,...or bags of cash and hope it works,..the owner has something better than cash,..OA !!!

 

I am pretty confident, however, that the only way this piece gets out of this owners hands is either a trade with a comparabloe or better Cover,...or a price north of 100K,...somewhere between 110K - 150K. No way will this piece ever sell for anything less than 100K,...no way,...I have offered that and been turned down. Moreover,..Ill pay that any day of the week as I remember reading this book at Jones Beach when I was a young KITTEN.

 

Hi KK,

 

I understand what you're saying, but just because someone offers 100K (in this case, you) doesn't mean it's worth that. In an auction, if you bid 100K and the next highest bidder is 40K, the piece sells for 41K. That's because there isn't enough demand to drive the price higher. So, in this example, the ASM cover would be personally worth 100K to you and the seller, but it only sells for 41K. Value therefore is 41K, because that's all you'd get if you had to sell it.

 

I've bought items for 20K that are only "worth" 10K. Does the value then miraculously climb to 20K? Yes, it does personally to me, but the market value is still 10K. And, it may take several years for the market value to rise enough to overtake what I have into it.

 

Best,

 

Hari,

 

I hear ya. I merely am sating my opinion that (1) the piece will never sell for less than 100K as I have offered that and been rebuffed and (2) in a no reserve auction,...while anything can happen,...Id be surprised to see it sell for less than 75K.

 

Thats all I was saying.

 

KK

 

Hi KK,

 

I can live with that assessment!

[Mushroom]

Find a wife?

Maybe his interests don't swing that way, if you know what I mean? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

or he has some Linsner & Turner OA close to hand...........

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