Shipped Wrong Artwork - Trying To Get It Back From Karl Dignam at The Grid Games in Manchester, CT 2 2

[gumbydarnit]

On 7/23/2024 at 11:48 PM, thethedew said:

(You all would recognize it).  

my guess then -

When guessing I guess out of the ballpark!

[Ecclectica]

On 7/24/2024 at 6:48 AM, thethedew said:

I once had a prominent comic art dealer (you've all heard the name) accidentally send me the wrong piece.

 

If the dealer you're mentionning is the dealer I think about, the funny thing is, had you kept the cover, he would probably have sold again your Micronauts page without noticing he had already sold it to you...

[Dr. Balls]

Well, I've tried the high road - so here's what's up: Karl Dignam of The Grid Games comic shop in Manchester, CT (Instagram link, Facebook link) purchased this Poison Elves piece from me and was delivered to him July 15:

What I mistakenly shipped him was this Poison Elves page out of my personal collection:

The third day after delivery (July 18), I took notice of my error and reached out to him through Ebay twice and Instagram once (not shown):

I've been cordial and patient, and he chooses to ignore my messages (he has made several posts in the days since, so I know he's reading them). My only real recourse here is to shine the light on The Grid Games in Manchester, CT and Karl Dignam himself. My offer to take the artwork back, pay for return shipping and offer a small token gesture for the inconvenience still stands. I'll get this posted up to Buyer Beware in the original art section on FB. Thanks for everyone's comments and perspective - we'll see if this one last move can get the artwork back.

Edited July 24 by Dr. Balls
Added screencap showing Karl's name attached to the business

[tth2]

On 7/25/2024 at 5:28 AM, Dr. Balls said:

The third day after delivery (July 18), I took notice of my error and reached out to him through Ebay twice and Instagram once

Is there a reason you haven't tried to use that old-fashioned telephone thingy and just call him?

[Dr. Balls]

On 7/24/2024 at 4:39 PM, tth2 said:

Is there a reason you haven't tried to use that old-fashioned telephone thingy and just call him?

I learned many, many years ago that it’s super easy to be misled, misdirected, or misinformed either in-person or over the phone. I don’t even bother with that anymore, when it gets down to this level of dirtbaggery, it's just a waste of time.

Edited July 25 by Dr. Balls

[KirbyCollector]

Karl

[Lorne.T]

I've been thinking about this thread for the last couple of days.

I'm based in the UK and had a strange postal mix-up, with a parcel of 6 comics valued at around $140 going missing that were destined for somewhere in England.

It was an issue that looked like the same postage label was used twice, receiving an eBay message last night, saying the parcel had ended up in Canada ( via ebay's global shipping program)

I'd already sent a comic to the buyer, so I imagine he was confused when he got the new package.

He's gone out of his way today to send them back to me tracked. I paid for the postage and offered to refund his comic, but he was happy just helping out.

Shows there are some really nice, trustworthy people out there!

[AndyFish]

Anybody know him or his shop?  I was just down in that area for a vacation but I didn't go anywhere near any comic shops.

[Readcomix]

On 7/25/2024 at 7:04 PM, AndyFish said:

Anybody know him or his shop?  I was just down in that area for a vacation but I didn't go anywhere near any comic shops.

I don’t but that’s Hartford, CT suburbs. Any Connecticut boardies know him?

[Michael Browning]

On 7/24/2024 at 8:32 PM, Dr. Balls said:

I learned many, many years ago that it’s super easy to be misled, misdirected, or misinformed either in-person or over the phone. I don’t even bother with that anymore, when it gets down to this level of dirtbaggery, it's just a waste of time.

So, I'm really sympathetic over you sending the wrong art and you trying to get it back, but you lose a bit of my sympathy when you refuse to call him and you haven't even tried eBay customer service, who called the buyer I mistakenly sent a book to and asked him to ship it back on my dime. And, it worked. I mean, why won't you call him at his shop? I don't understand that at all. If I wanted the art back bad enough to post here, I'd certainly exhaust every option to try to get it back.

[tth2]

On 7/26/2024 at 8:01 AM, Michael Browning said:

So, I'm really sympathetic over you sending the wrong art and you trying to get it back, but you lose a bit of my sympathy when you refuse to call him and you haven't even tried eBay customer service, who called the buyer I mistakenly sent a book to and asked him to ship it back on my dime. And, it worked. I mean, why won't you call him at his shop? I don't understand that at all. If I wanted the art back bad enough to post here, I'd certainly exhaust every option to try to get it back.

If nothing else, a call would establish a clear record that the recipient was directly informed of the mistake and what his response was (even if it's non-responsive), to eliminate any possibility of the recipient claiming that he didn't know because he'd never seen the various online contacts.

[Dr. Balls]

On 7/25/2024 at 6:01 PM, Michael Browning said:

So, I'm really sympathetic over you sending the wrong art and you trying to get it back, but you lose a bit of my sympathy when you refuse to call him and you haven't even tried eBay customer service, who called the buyer I mistakenly sent a book to and asked him to ship it back on my dime. And, it worked. I mean, why won't you call him at his shop? I don't understand that at all. If I wanted the art back bad enough to post here, I'd certainly exhaust every option to try to get it back.

I've just called an left a message. You're right, I should expend every avenue - and I now have (Ebay doesn't look like it can do much more than what I've done, but they are in the loop). We'll see how that shakes out tomorrow.

[MAY1979]

On 7/24/2024 at 9:46 PM, KirbyCollector said:

Karl

Yet another old white guy allegedly committing crimes

[thehumantorch]

Nice to see you've named names.  Hopefully the hit to his reputation is far greater than the value of this page.

[Kevin76]

Just call and ask for Karl. Once you get him on the phone, he's now on the spot to talk, emails are probably not even being opened and just deleted.  

[Dr. Balls]

On 7/25/2024 at 7:59 PM, Kevin76 said:

Just call and ask for Karl. Once you get him on the phone, he's now on the spot to talk, emails are probably not even being opened and just deleted.  

I thought about that last night after I left the message - I’ll be calling again today and see if I can get him on the phone.

[Dr. Balls]

And - as I suspected talking with him on the phone - I got a wonderfully woven story about how it was a trade for a customer who liked Poison Elves, but by some crazy happenstance, this had passed through three peoples' hands while no one bothered to look at the page and realize it was not the one purchased. The art is now gone. I don't know the believability of someone trading for original art and never actually looking at it over the course of the deal - so I will conclude this as 1) a cautionary tale of foolish stupidity by Yours Truly and 2) that Karl's story is 10 pounds of BS in a 5-pound bag. 

You win some, you lose some.

 

Edited July 26 by Dr. Balls

[thethedew]

So, the upshot is: he maintains the art is already gone?

[gregreece]

That was the best he could come up with? Good gravy!

On 7/26/2024 at 12:58 PM, Dr. Balls said:

And - as I suspected talking with him on the phone - I got a wonderfully woven story about how it was a trade for a customer who liked Poison Elves, but by some crazy happenstance, this had passed through three peoples' hands while no one bothered to look at the page and realize it was not the one purchased. I don't know the believability of someone trading for original art and never actually looking at it over the course of the deal - so I will conclude this as 1) a cautionary tale of foolish stupidity by Yours Truly and 2) that Karl's story is 10 pounds of BS in a 5-pound bag. 

You win some, you lose some.

 

 

[MAY1979]

I don't think when the time comes that story will pass muster with St. Peter.

Take the tiniest bit of solace in that you now have closure

Edited July 26 by MAR1979