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Fantastic Four Collecting Thread!
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On 2/24/2022 at 10:32 PM, Dougie28 said:

Hey everyone, haven't posted here for a while.  I submitted my ff36 and 48 to Heritage for April auction, but couldn't part with these beauties yet....I know most if not all of you can appreciate these as well 🙂

 

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Wowie kazowi, that is one sweet copy of a very tough book!

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On 3/1/2022 at 4:24 PM, JohnH19 said:

112 is new to the PC and 68 is an upgrade. 68 is actually the first FF I ever bought off the rack, back in August of 1967.38955B24-8D57-47F3-98F0-A935B560DDF9.thumb.jpeg.330e154c824cceb20c25c64ffd83ce27.jpeg24A952B2-AC16-4ADE-86E7-0919F88C7337.thumb.jpeg.29855d73fdd99b616b642a8d2ad6e184.jpeg

The exact same starting issue as my friend and comic mentor. 

A lot of people (me included), group FF 68-93 as being “lesser” due to Kirby’s conscious decision to withhold his best ideas from the title. But these were the first Kirby Fantastic Fours I saw, and they contain my favorite phase of The King’s art. Love it!

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On 3/1/2022 at 7:54 PM, KirbyJack said:

A lot of people (me included), group FF 68-93 as being “lesser” due to Kirby’s conscious decision to withhold his best ideas from the title.

Any idea where I can find the full story you're referring to?  I know a lot about the Lee/Kirby dynamic, but him intentionally holding back ideas starting at a specific point in time isn't ringing a bell.  Was he pissed at Stan, Martin Goodman, or both of them?  And is it conjecture, or is there direct evidence of it?  Kirby didn't usually speak his mind publicly so I know most of what we know about him is either reverse-engineered from his work or based upon hearsay from others, particularly Stan Lee.

It certainly makes general sense given that he left Marvel 2 to 3 years after FF 68 released.

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