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[4GEMWORKS]

Missing Four Color Observation:

 

Those issues that are definitely missing all seem to have a handwritten note at the bottom of each first page, visible in many pictures. It's almost as though they didn't know what else to do with them. This writing does no appear on any other issue that I am aware of outside the missing issues.

[Sqeggs]

Are there other -- possibly not yet identified? -- candidates for the missing numbers if we knock out dubious issues such as B&C and Cain's Hundred?

[4GEMWORKS]

Are there other -- possibly not yet identified? -- candidates for the missing numbers if we knock out dubious issues such as B&C and Cain's Hundred?

 

I don't know. Only after definite issues are identified can we see what the gap is as far as missing issues versus confirmed issues.

[4GEMWORKS]

Mines low grade, but I'm just happy to have a copy

 

 

Kind of makes you wonder what was going on at Dell in 1940-- did someone just say, "Hey, lets try raising the price of a few comics by 50% in certain markets and see what happens?" Seems unlikely, especially since the typical purchasers of comics would be especially sensitive to this sort of increase. What would the reaction have been when distributors/retailers got wind of the fact that the cover price of their comics was increased, yet the prices in other markets remained the same?

 

If it's been established that these were not Canadian copies is it possible they were printed domestically for sale in some other English-speaking country or an American territory?

 

By the way, nice copy of FC4, Montezuma-- it sure doesn't look low grade in the photo.

 

As a collector of the Marvel price variants and knowing of many other issues since discovered, that is exactly what many publishers did. It might have been just a single market.

[AJD]

Is this the candidate 'missing' Gyro?

 

 

If so, I have a raw one and can scan the indicia if that helps.

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Is this the candidate 'missing' Gyro?

 

 

If so, I have a raw one and can scan the indicia if that helps.

 

Yes, that's the one. I only have a slabbed copy.

[4GEMWORKS]

Interestingly

Is this the candidate 'missing' Gyro?

 

 

If so, I have a raw one and can scan the indicia if that helps.

 

Yes, that's the one. I only have a slabbed copy.

 

Interestingly I actually have a slabbed copy graded as a Four Color and assigned a number, I forget which.

[4GEMWORKS]

Is this the candidate 'missing' Gyro?

 

 

If so, I have a raw one and can scan the indicia if that helps.

 

Please scan the indicia if you don't mind.

[Sqeggs]

Interestingly

Is this the candidate 'missing' Gyro?

 

 

If so, I have a raw one and can scan the indicia if that helps.

 

Yes, that's the one. I only have a slabbed copy.

 

Interestingly I actually have a slabbed copy graded as a Four Color and assigned a number, I forget which.

 

1329, I think, judging from your list. You had two candidates for that one -- GG and Ben Casey. For reasons you gave in your earlier post, it looks like GG is probably the winning candidate for that slot, pending a look at GG's indicia.

[AJD]

OK, I'll scan it when I get home tonight.

[Sqeggs]

Due in on the next wagon train from Texas.

 

[4GEMWORKS]

Due in on the next wagon train from Texas.

 

 

The Four Color made incredible use of these base colors, yellow in this case. Great find!

[AJD]

Is this the candidate 'missing' Gyro?

 

 

If so, I have a raw one and can scan the indicia if that helps.

 

Please scan the indicia if you don't mind.

 

Well, this is embarrassing. I had an absolute beater of a copy I got in a lot, but it's nowhere to be found. I suspect it was given away to visiting kids at some stage. Sorry about that...

[pooroldman]

Is this the candidate 'missing' Gyro?

 

 

If so, I have a raw one and can scan the indicia if that helps.

 

Please scan the indicia if you don't mind.

 

Well, this is embarrassing. I had an absolute beater of a copy I got in a lot, but it's nowhere to be found. I suspect it was given away to visiting kids at some stage. Sorry about that...

 

Does this help?

 

[AJD]

I was updating my Four Color Collection Description in advance of the annual awards. I thought I'd share the last part which is new this year: I'll post some pictures that will likely be new to a few people.

 

Missing Four Colors:

 

I have previously discussed the missing Four Colors. Here now is a list of comics that might well be the “missing Four Color issues”. These were derived by looking at date marks on the cover and determining if they were part of another numbered series of comics that might have existed. For example if Bonanza #5 was trtuly #5 it would say so in the indica. Most of the missing Four Colors simply used a cryptic code of letters that few people understood. But what could be done was to match up dates and the issues that were not part of another series match up nearly perfectly with the missing issues:

 

1217: Ken and Barbie #1 01-053-207

1228: Bonanza 01-070-207

1292: Cain’s Hundred #1 01-094-207

1314: Donald Duck Album 01-204-207

1315: Follow the Sun 01-280-207

1316: King Leanardo 01-390-207

1317: Laramie: 01-418-207

1318: Leave it to Beaver 01-428-207

1319: Lolly and Pepper 01-459-207

1320: Man From Wells fargo 01-495-207

1321: Marge’s Lulu and Tubby in Japan 01-476-207

1322: The Prince and the Pauper 01-654-207

1323: National Velvet 01-556-207

1324: Pixie Dixie and Mr. Jinx 01-631-207

1325: The Real McCoy’s 01-689-207

1326: The Twilight Zone 01-860-207

1327: The Untouchables 01-879-207

1329 This is unusual. Ben casey seems to fit the spot (#1 ) 12-063-207

However Gyro Gearloose also seems to fit the spot. In fact I have a Gyro Gearloose in a CGC case titled Four Color #1329, despite the fact that 1329 is listed nowhere on the title or indica.

1331: Blue Phantom #1 01-066-208

1334: Dazey’s Diary 01-174-208

1338: Fury 01-292-208

1339 Rawhide 01-684-208

1340: Beany and Cecil 01-057-209

1342: Brenda Lee’s Life Story 01-078-209

1343: Bullwinkle 01-090-209

1344: Drift Marlo #1 01-090-209

1345: Famous Indian Tribes #1 12-264-209

1346; Jungle War Stories #1 01-384-209

1347: King Of Diamonds 01-391-209

1351: The Magic Sword 12-496-209

1352: Ponytail #1 12-641-209

1353: 77 Sunset Strip 01-742-209

One book that seems to be lost and would also fit in this slot (1353), is The Twist 01-864-209

1355: Bonanza 01-070-210

1356: The Three Stooges Meet Hercules 01-828-208

1357: Mickey Mouse Album 12-518-210

1358: National Velvet 12-556-210

1359: The Twilight Zone 12-860-210

1360: The Untouchables 12-879-210

1361 (questionable?) Walt Disney’s Goofy: Scoutmaster

 

 

Does this help?

 

 

1329 does in fact appear in the indicia in this copy - looks like we have a winner. Your comment above makes me wonder if there is more than one version of this issue. But the scan here would certainly explain the slabbed #1329

 

Edited February 28, 2016 by AJD

[4GEMWORKS]

I was updating my Four Color Collection Description in advance of the annual awards. I thought I'd share the last part which is new this year: I'll post some pictures that will likely be new to a few people.

 

Missing Four Colors:

 

I have previously discussed the missing Four Colors. Here now is a list of comics that might well be the “missing Four Color issues”. These were derived by looking at date marks on the cover and determining if they were part of another numbered series of comics that might have existed. For example if Bonanza #5 was trtuly #5 it would say so in the indica. Most of the missing Four Colors simply used a cryptic code of letters that few people understood. But what could be done was to match up dates and the issues that were not part of another series match up nearly perfectly with the missing issues:

 

1217: Ken and Barbie #1 01-053-207

1228: Bonanza 01-070-207

1292: Cain’s Hundred #1 01-094-207

1314: Donald Duck Album 01-204-207

1315: Follow the Sun 01-280-207

1316: King Leanardo 01-390-207

1317: Laramie: 01-418-207

1318: Leave it to Beaver 01-428-207

1319: Lolly and Pepper 01-459-207

1320: Man From Wells fargo 01-495-207

1321: Marge’s Lulu and Tubby in Japan 01-476-207

1322: The Prince and the Pauper 01-654-207

1323: National Velvet 01-556-207

1324: Pixie Dixie and Mr. Jinx 01-631-207

1325: The Real McCoy’s 01-689-207

1326: The Twilight Zone 01-860-207

1327: The Untouchables 01-879-207

1329 This is unusual. Ben casey seems to fit the spot (#1 ) 12-063-207

However Gyro Gearloose also seems to fit the spot. In fact I have a Gyro Gearloose in a CGC case titled Four Color #1329, despite the fact that 1329 is listed nowhere on the title or indica.

1331: Blue Phantom #1 01-066-208

1334: Dazey’s Diary 01-174-208

1338: Fury 01-292-208

1339 Rawhide 01-684-208

1340: Beany and Cecil 01-057-209

1342: Brenda Lee’s Life Story 01-078-209

1343: Bullwinkle 01-090-209

1344: Drift Marlo #1 01-090-209

1345: Famous Indian Tribes #1 12-264-209

1346; Jungle War Stories #1 01-384-209

1347: King Of Diamonds 01-391-209

1351: The Magic Sword 12-496-209

1352: Ponytail #1 12-641-209

1353: 77 Sunset Strip 01-742-209

One book that seems to be lost and would also fit in this slot (1353), is The Twist 01-864-209

1355: Bonanza 01-070-210

1356: The Three Stooges Meet Hercules 01-828-208

1357: Mickey Mouse Album 12-518-210

1358: National Velvet 12-556-210

1359: The Twilight Zone 12-860-210

1360: The Untouchables 12-879-210

1361 (questionable?) Walt Disney’s Goofy: Scoutmaster

 

 

Does this help?

 

 

1329 does in fact appear in the indicia in this copy - looks like we have a winner. Your comment above makes me wonder if there is more than one version of this issue. But the scan here would certainly explain the slabbed #1329

 

No doubt this was missing. It was going to be issue 1329.

[4GEMWORKS]

Mines low grade, but I'm just happy to have a copy

 

 

Kind of makes you wonder what was going on at Dell in 1940-- did someone just say, "Hey, lets try raising the price of a few comics by 50% in certain markets and see what happens?" Seems unlikely, especially since the typical purchasers of comics would be especially sensitive to this sort of increase. What would the reaction have been when distributors/retailers got wind of the fact that the cover price of their comics was increased, yet the prices in other markets remained the same?

 

If it's been established that these were not Canadian copies is it possible they were printed domestically for sale in some other English-speaking country or an American territory?

 

By the way, nice copy of FC4, Montezuma-- it sure doesn't look low grade in the photo.

 

As a collector of the Marvel price variants and knowing of many other issues since discovered, that is exactly what many publishers did. It might have been just a single market.

 

As hard as it might be to think Dell was using price variants, here's the proof. Turns out they were almost 20 years ahead of Marvel in trying to raise comic book prices.

 

http://dellcomicfan.blogspot.com/2011/10/are-there-any-dell-variants-103.html

[Sqeggs]

Knocked out to receive this beauty from a boardie. Hard to believe that there are zero copies on the census.

 

[Sqeggs]

Picked up this one a little while ago. Not a huge Paul Murry fan.

 

[4GEMWORKS]

Knocked out to receive this beauty from a boardie. Hard to believe that there are zero copies on the census.

 

 

Not sure what you estimate the grade at. I have a 7.0 that I never submitted. The value on the book itself was not all that high. This one looks pretty good though. I got a Porky Pig on the board a few years. It came back 9.6 after pressing. It was unbelievable.

 

Two nice books you got, for sure.