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Will there ever appear a comic collection to surpass the Edgar Church pedigree??

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Interesting articles...one item not mentioned is the fact that the books were selling through an auction house with word of mouth that they were overgraded and the pedigree status of quite a few of the books were in doubt.

 

I'd tihnk that would tend to lower collector confidence, which certainly could impact prices realized.

 

Of course, Scoop and Heritage would lead us to believe it was the most grand event ever, regardless of the results.

 

STEVE

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How many in this 22,000 pedigree are war books? It would be nice to see a listing if one is available.

 

There are certainly a few, starting with the first series devoted to War. War comics as a genre really became proflic during the Korean War, which was during the tail end of Church's prime collecting days. During WWII there was a tremendous emphasis on incorporating the war and war themes into every other genre, espcially superhero books.

 

There might even be a Church paratrooper book or two. wink.gif

 

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I want that book! Anyone knows who owns this?

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Is this guy, Steve Duin, well known at all? He seems to write a lot about collecting. confused-smiley-013.gif

 

He's been writing about comics since the single digits of CBM.

 

Interesting article, thanks for the link RH!

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I want that book! Anyone knows who owns this?

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Probably the guy who posted it. confused-smiley-013.gif

 

Seems highly probable. thumbsup2.gif

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One other thing that makes the Church collection the grail of pedigrees is that EC bought all of the comics, and didnt read them. he just bought them to have them in his stacks.

I seriously doubt there is another collection like it out there.

 

 

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Is this guy, Steve Duin, well known at all? He seems to write a lot about collecting. confused-smiley-013.gif

 

He's been writing about comics since the single digits of CBM.

 

Interesting article, thanks for the link RH!

 

Thanks, guys. I thought his writing was excellent.....I've read an article or two online of his before, but don't recall reading him in CBM. It'll give me an excuse to keep collecting back issues.

 

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Is this guy, Steve Duin, well known at all? He seems to write a lot about collecting. confused-smiley-013.gif

 

He's been writing about comics since the single digits of CBM.

 

Interesting article, thanks for the link RH!

 

Thanks, guys. I thought his writing was excellent.....I've read an article or two online of his before, but don't recall reading him in CBM. It'll give me an excuse to keep collecting back issues.

 

Red

 

Issue #5. Cover feature on Schomberg.

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BTW, do any of the Church books suffer from stacking curl? That is, NOT spine roll, but when there is a slight curl on the spine from being stacked? Unless every book in all the the stacks was PERFECTLY aligned, there'd have to be some books with stacking curl...

Stacking curl, indentations in books from the book on top not being perfectly aligned, etc. This is why so many Church books have been such great candidates for pressing.

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Is this guy, Steve Duin, well known at all? He seems to write a lot about collecting. confused-smiley-013.gif

 

He's been writing about comics since the single digits of CBM.

 

Interesting article, thanks for the link RH!

 

Thanks, guys. I thought his writing was excellent.....I've read an article or two online of his before, but don't recall reading him in CBM. It'll give me an excuse to keep collecting back issues.

 

Red

 

Issue #5. Cover feature on Schomberg.

 

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There was more than an element of providence in his storage methods - the comics were in a basement in a climate beneficial to paper preservation, he basically piled them high unbagged and never touched them, and no-one else was interested in the collection during his lifetime. Until Chuck walked in....

 

Yup... the Church Pedigree is the result of the perfect storm of elements conducive to preserving newsprint.

 

BTW, do any of the Church books suffer from stacking curl? That is, NOT spine roll, but when there is a slight curl on the spine from being stacked? Unless every book in all the the stacks was PERFECTLY aligned, there'd have to be some books with stacking curl...

 

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I remember reading that church alternated the spines, thus avoiding any signficant spine roll. I consider that to be pretty much self-evident anyway. You ever tried to make a 2 foot, let alone a 7 foot stack? The stack will topple over if you don't alternate the spines. So just the fact that edgar had 'em in 7 foot stacks pretty much guarantees he was alternating the spines. gossip.gif

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There was more than an element of providence in his storage methods - the comics were in a basement in a climate beneficial to paper preservation, he basically piled them high unbagged and never touched them, and no-one else was interested in the collection during his lifetime. Until Chuck walked in....

 

Yup... the Church Pedigree is the result of the perfect storm of elements conducive to preserving newsprint.

 

BTW, do any of the Church books suffer from stacking curl? That is, NOT spine roll, but when there is a slight curl on the spine from being stacked? Unless every book in all the the stacks was PERFECTLY aligned, there'd have to be some books with stacking curl...

 

confused-smiley-013.gif

 

I remember reading that church alternated the spines, thus avoiding any signficant spine roll. I consider that to be pretty much self-evident anyway. You ever tried to make a 2 foot, let alone a 7 foot stack? The stack will topple over if you don't alternate the spines. So just the fact that edgar had 'em in 7 foot stacks pretty much guarantees he was alternating the spines. gossip.gif

Prove it with a demostration
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There is no denying that the Mile High Pedigree is fantastic. Personally, I am more partial to the Crippen Pedigree than I am of the Mile Highs. I just recently sold 2 Mile High books, so that I could purchase more Crippen books. I now own only 2 Mile High books, and a couple dozen Crippen books. I am extremely impressed with the variety of comics contained within the Crippen Collection.

 

If you asked me if I would rather own a Mile High or Crippen copy of the same grade book, my response would be which one looks better overall.

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BTW, do any of the Church books suffer from stacking curl? That is, NOT spine roll, but when there is a slight curl on the spine from being stacked? Unless every book in all the the stacks was PERFECTLY aligned, there'd have to be some books with stacking curl...

Stacking curl, indentations in books from the book on top not being perfectly aligned, etc. This is why so many Church books have been such great candidates for pressing.

 

I've really not seen these types of problems either. As far as I can tell it's often corner bends or minor bumps in handling, many of which may have occurred post Church, that make them pressing candidates. Church books are usually mirror flat.

 

The books were definitely not perfectly aligned as there are plenty of light dust shadows.

 

Again, Fishler and Verzyl can both offer more informed opinions, but I've seen hundreds of Church copies from the 30s through the 50s.

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