THE BATMAN starring Robert Pattinson (2022)

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On 3/9/2022 at 12:03 PM, darkstar said:

Nobody leaves Warner Bros and the entirety of the DC Universe to go make Netflix originals zombie movies, so no he didn't voluntarily leave they got rid of him. 

And yes he makes bad movies, consistently. Literally nobody here can give any evidence of his "greatness". Visionary 

You're objectively incorrect. Feel free to educate yourself regarding the situation.

That's your opinion, and it's a minority one at best, if not entirely baseless considering the dreck that you've already posted.

On 3/9/2022 at 7:06 AM, ▫️ said:

We can agree on Dawn of the Dead vs Army of the Dead. But to say he makes bad movies in general? I thought Watchmen, Man of Steel and his cut of Justice League were fantastic. 

It is okay to like bad movies.

And 300, Watchmen, Sucker Punch, Man of Steel, Dawn of Justice, Justice League, and Army of the Dead are all bad movies. 

On 3/9/2022 at 8:03 PM, darkstar said:

Nobody leaves Warner Bros and the entirety of the DC Universe to go make Netflix originals zombie movies, so no he didn't voluntarily leave they got rid of him. 

And yes he makes bad movies, consistently. Literally nobody here can give any evidence of his "greatness". Visionary 

Wow, what did Snyder do to you?  I really don’t care, he’s made some great movies and he’s made some bad movies.

On 3/9/2022 at 12:15 PM, ▫️ said:

Wow, what did Snyder do to you?  I really don’t care, he’s made some great movies and he’s made some bad movies.

Snyder: *exists*

Trolls: "AHHHHHHHHHH!"

On 3/9/2022 at 11:06 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

You're objectively incorrect. Feel free to educate yourself regarding the situation.

That's your opinion, and it's a minority one at best, if not entirely baseless considering the dreck that you've already posted.

I'm not incorrect. Snyder was tasked with building the foundations of the DC movie universe. He was given several attempts to jumpstart it and failed. Any attempt to deny this is nothing more than sympathy for his child dying clouding one's ability to assess the situation objectively. IF Snyder was a visionary he would still be the number one guy at Warner Bros. and the Justice League franchise would still be a thing, you wouldn't have Pattinson batman, you wouldn't be needing Keaton batman to save that awful Flash casting, and you would still be getting a movie about Cyborg. Snyder's foray into the DC universe was a total failure. 

On 3/9/2022 at 11:22 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

Snyder: *exists*

Trolls: "AHHHHHHHHHH!"

You called someone a visionary and haven't been able to put together any words giving evidence to such a claim. 

On 3/9/2022 at 12:23 PM, darkstar said:

I'm not incorrect. Snyder was tasked with building the foundations of the DC movie universe. He was given several attempts to jumpstart it and failed. Any attempt to deny this is nothing more than sympathy for his child dying clouding one's ability to assess the situation objectively. IF Snyder was a visionary he would still be the number one guy at Warner Bros. and the Justice League franchise would still be a thing, you wouldn't have Pattinson batman, you wouldn't be needing Keaton batman to save that awful Flash casting, and you would still be getting a movie about Cyborg. Snyder's foray into the DC universe was a total failure. 

Yes, you are factually incorrect. Zack Snyder left production of Justice League due to his daughter's suicide. When he attempted coming back, WB made his job such a living hell that he chose to walk away and let them finish the movie without him. Factually, Zack Snyder left WB.

Looks like his jump-start didn't fail at all. The DCEU is still going.

Affleck left The Batman, which paved the way for Reeves and Pattinson. That has pretty much nothing to do with Snyder.

Is there any other subject which you would like to inform us that you're uneducated about?

On 3/9/2022 at 12:28 PM, darkstar said:

You called someone a visionary and haven't been able to put together any words giving evidence to such a claim. 

It's almost like WB has been calling Zack Snyder a visionary ever since 300...

Anything else you would like to be schooled on?

On 3/9/2022 at 8:23 PM, darkstar said:

Any attempt to deny this is nothing more than sympathy for his child dying clouding one's ability to assess the situation objectively.

This statement clearly shows your bias. Read it again yourself. Anyone who disagrees has sympathy for him. Can’t be any other reason. That alone shows there’s no reasoning with you on the topic. Ironic that you mention assessing the situation objectively. The main reason his child’s death has been brought up here was to explain why he had to walk away from filming Justice League. 

On 3/9/2022 at 11:28 AM, darkstar said:

You called someone a visionary and haven't been able to put together any words giving evidence to such a claim. 

One thing I forgot to comment on and I forget who said it (it may have been several posters). Complaints that DC can’t create a shared universe (which I agree with, they haven’t succeeded there). But I never really cared all that much about it. The main takeaway was all the different Batmen. I’m actually very good with that. I loved Keaton’s Batman when I saw it in the theater in 89. And I loved Nolans Batman. I loved Snyders Batman. Finally my favorite version of him was done for the screen. Frank Millers take. I would like to continue seeing Batman in different iterations like James Bond. See what new directors and new actors can bring to the character. 

On 3/9/2022 at 12:15 PM, ▫️ said:

Wow, what did Snyder do to you?  I really don’t care, he’s made some great movies and he’s made some bad movies.

Please have him point to where on the Leonidas doll the perpetrator may have touched him.

On 3/9/2022 at 9:07 PM, Bosco685 said:

Please have him point to where on the Leonidas doll the perpetrator may have touched him.

Oh God thats a horrible little doll. And with pen*s arms?

On 3/9/2022 at 11:34 AM, eastriver31400 said:

 

I have to revisit Doom Patrol.  Peacemaker was an amazing ride. 

Yes both of those shows are superb

On 3/9/2022 at 9:15 PM, Wolverinex said:

Yes both of those shows are superb

I haven’t been able to watch Peacemaker yet, I’m just not a John Cena fan. I’ll give it a go. Love Doom Patrol.

On 3/9/2022 at 11:28 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

Yes, you are factually incorrect. Zack Snyder left production of Justice League due to his daughter's suicide. When he attempted coming back, WB made his job such a living hell that he chose to walk away and let them finish the movie without him. Factually, Zack Snyder left WB.

Looks like his jump-start didn't fail at all. The DCEU is still going.

Affleck left The Batman, which paved the way for Reeves and Pattinson. That has pretty much nothing to do with Snyder.

Is there any other subject which you would like to inform us that you're uneducated about?

WB scrapped everything Snyder started. That has everything to do with Snyder. His movies underperformed over and over and over again and he got booted. There isn't anything else to say about it. If what he did was successful he would still be there and the actors in the roles in the movies he made would still be in those roles in ongoing projects with WB...and they aren't. 

Again you called the guy a visionary and haven't been able to make any case at all for him being one, you're just attempting to color his numerous past failures as achievements. 

That the DCEU is still going isn't evidence of anything that what Snyder put on the screen was good. Those are billion dollar IPs, Warner Bros will continue cranking them out in order to print money, regardless of how many attempts have stalled out. 

On 3/9/2022 at 11:30 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

It's almost like WB has been calling Zack Snyder a visionary ever since 300...

Anything else you would like to be schooled on?

an empty platitude from some guy in marketing is proof of anything? 

On 3/9/2022 at 2:57 PM, darkstar said:

WB scrapped everything Snyder started. That has everything to do with Snyder. His movies underperformed over and over and over again and he got booted. There isn't anything else to say about it. If what he did was successful he would still be there and the actors in the roles in the movies he made would still be in those roles in ongoing projects with WB...and they aren't. 

Again you called the guy a visionary and haven't been able to make any case at all for him being one, you're just attempting to color his numerous past failures as achievements. 

That the DCEU is still going isn't evidence of anything that what Snyder put on the screen was good. Those are billion dollar IPs, Warner Bros will continue cranking them out in order to print money, regardless of how many attempts have stalled out. 

On 3/9/2022 at 2:59 PM, darkstar said:

an empty platitude from some guy in marketing is proof of anything? 

Seriously, you are taking this way personal like Zack Snyder did something to you. Yet there are many fans excited about the contributions he made across Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and the Snyder Cut along with all the casting he put in place (Jason Momoa, Gal Gadot, Ezra Miller, etc.). Why you are so deadset in attacking his work demonstrates the fanaticism that happens when folks just want to hate on such creators and their films.

Calling his movies 'underperformers' when I can clearly demonstrate reality only further confirms you are just restating misinformation just to hate on the guy. That's an unhealthy mindset.

Compare the first 6 films of the MCU to the first six of the DCEU and guess how mathematically ignorant WB Studio executives were because they responded to emotional hate versus facts? That's how goofy those 'leaders' are in mishandling their own DC portfolio of films. And that's even with the horrible Josstice League results.

Man I forget how well Batman V Superman did at the box office. But then again, Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker both did incredibly well as did Transformers Dark of the Moon so a film's success has nothing to do with what I think of it