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Who's RAM...? Hey, I spoilered at least one of my posts. Maybe I'll go back and spoiler them all, so no one feels obligated to read them. Besides...there's a TON of interesting information in my posts, that deals, at least in an ancillary way, with the subject. Well, who can blame me for getting your name wrong as I was half asleep by then after reading through that mountain of "interesting information". All I can say is that's 5 hours of my life that I will never get back, considering that I ended up dozing off quite a few times just to get through those 2 exhilarating pages.

Everything's relative as your post is a mere anthill compared to that mountain of words coming from RAM and sfcityduck on Pages 4 and 5 of this thread. We should ask the mods to delete those 2 pages completely.

+1 Would totally agree with your point that that slabbed comics is a very small niche within the comic collecting community, especially when it comes to the post early SA books. Yes, we always hear about the big dollar sales from the major auction houses, and yet every single time I go down to a local or regional comic convention, it appears that slabbed books makes up less than 1% of the total number of books available for sale out there. In fact, I have never seen anybody buy an actually slabbed book at one of the local comic conventions, but lots of raw comics (even first appearances) seems to change hands.

We might never; there is the possibility the vast majority prefer raw. Since two decades in, the vast majority likely remain raw, we need to at least consider that. Although I am quite sure this statement is true to a large extent, there is also another large group out there. This would be the ones who also have uber HG Hulks 181 in their closets and do know that CGC exists, but has absolutely no interest or reason in getting their copies slabbed until it comes time to sell them.

Good choice to stick with white pages, with so many copies available page quality makes a difference. Sarcasm at its finest and are you stating this with your tongue firmly implanted in your cheek. And as we all know from decades of comic book terminology and Overstreet brainwashing, Good is actually at the bottom of the scale from a comic collector's point of view. Hence, it would be an even Finer choice to go with OW / White pages. And better yet, you could top if off with a Near Mint choice and simply go with Off-White pages. Do not try to confuse the newbie collectors to our great Forum here as we should not only welcome them here, but be willing to share our decades of collecting experiences and lessons learned with them.

That's the problem with exact identical twins..............you just can never tell them apart at all.

Well, isn't this just a matter of basic arithmetic here: Total number of copies distributed = 284,824 Less total number of slabbed copies = 1,798 Hence, total number of original purchases still out there is probably around 283,000 unslabbed copies just waiting to be encased in their tombs. Or a whole heck of a lot although I am not totally sure what you mean by unsold original purchases?

Yes but none of those were white pages. Well, it's obvious you haven't been paying attention then. From reading some of the previous posts, if it's White Pages, then for sure you would have to lower your asking price.

I remember being at Diamond Galleries for their grand opening and seeing the Frazetta Famous Funnies file copies that Overstreet had compiled to that point in time. They were absolutely gorgeous and minty fresh looking, but the only problem was that the set was not complete. It was missing 2 of the best covers in terms of FF 213 and the FF 214 red moon cover, along with the last issue in the run. I thought the missing copies were probably set aside in advance for one of Snyder's preferred collector friends, similar to the Allentown copy of Wonderworld 7 at the time. From the subsequent CBM post-sales report though, it looked like this was not the case and also confirmed Richard's thinking that Famous Funnies 213 is probably one of the toughest Frazetta FF issues to find in grade.

I don't dislike CL's auction format. I set my max offer that I'm willing to pay and let it ride. If I win great if I lose there will one day be a next. Different strokes for different folks..........since I don't really care for CL's snipe enticing end of auction format, I usually set my bottom feeding offer and just let it ride. And unless something really special shows up, this bottom feeder threshold level is usually around the $100 mark. No wonder why I normally end up winning only crapola books from CL.

Yes indeed, so much so that he hasn't made a reappearance on these boards since this time. Now we know who to blame if he's not allowed back on these boards again by his better half.

Allan; Double congrats on being astute enough to pick up this copy of BB 105 down in SDCC and also on your pending big dollar sale of this book in the CL Auction. Now, let's see......who else in Vancouver would have picked up this book here? Hmmmmm...............: Can't be Magik because the book would have been auctioned off through Heritage and he never would have let those inexperienced newbie overgraders at CGC touch the book in the first place since they can't grade a book if their life depended on it. Can't be Greggy since he is much more into uber HG BA DC's, although they might have caught him at a weak point due to how nice this copy was. Wondered if it could have been Chris Bell after he offloaded the Vancouver pedigree collection which he was able to find a couple of decades ago? Maybe you should give us a hint now that you've made me so curious that I can't sleep and starting to pull my hair out.

I won the Berk Detective 29 and the only thing that went through my mind during extended bidding was when was the bidding against me ever gonna stop. Congrats again and well done on picking up what I know is a sure fire grail for you. In terms of the Berk Auction, I wasn't really going after one particular book per se. As a result, I found the continual 3-minute extended time periods to be quite useful as I was going between multiple lots when it came to the HTF titles like the Centaur Star Comics and early Keen Detective Funnies or some of the later Fox Wonderworld titles.

The words right out of my mouth win or go home on Clink or empty your wallet on CC if you want it.so bad imho Yeah, with CLink you avoid being overcome with auction fever the way you can on CC -- just one more bid ... well, ok, just one more ... just one more! I really mean it this time ... the other guy can't go any higher than one more bid, can he? .... As I said in my previous post above, I really don't care for the CL (snipe at the end) auction format because it just feels so impersonal and that it's just a one-shot bidding system with you against a computer sniping program. I much prefer the extended 3-minute bidding process with CC as it's much more of a personal contest and you are right in there hands on and in full control. I remember bidding on some books in the Jon Berk Auction last summer and the 3 minutes gives you a lot of time to make an more informed decision as to whether you should hit that button one more time or not. You have the time to check the CGC census, the previous Heritage sales, your Mile High catalogue, your Larson list, Overstreet, etc, and if it doesn't show up anywhere except in Overstreet and less than a handful in the CGC census, I am much more tempted to hit that button just one more time. Ok, I also like the thrill and excitement of being right in there and after awhile, you just know that it's only you and this one other crazy bidder left.

I don't dislike CL's auction format. I set my max offer that I'm willing to pay and let it ride. If I win great if I lose there will one day be a next. And the exact reason why I don't like the CL format since I have an El Cheapo personality and feel that I have to toss in my highest bid that I am willing to pay for a book. Especially since you really have only one shot at it and it's really most likely against a computer sniping program. I always prefer to pay the lowest amount possible for a book, as opposed to the maximum that I am willing to pay for a book. I guess that is why any wins I have on CL is always for books that nobody else must really want, but at least at a price that I can live with. A perfect example being a PGX 6.0 graded book which nobody must have wanted and I got stuck with at the end with my bottle of the barrel bid, even though it was still over condition guide. At least it didn't hit my max bid (but did come close) which was a positive for me. The only PGX graded book in my collection, and as such, I am sure that it would probably come back in a PLOD graded at something like CGC 3.0 with missing pages. The only saving grace being that it's an Archie 50 and with its now in-demand classic cover, I might even have a shot and be lucky enough to get back my money whenever I do decide to sell it.

Nope, but I did handle a few other issues of Suspense. Yes, it looks like almost all of the other Church copies of the Suspense run has hit the marketplace over the years. In fact, with some of them on quite a few occasions. Looks like the only ones that have not are the Suspense 4 which is supposedly the toughest of the bunch and even harder to find than the much more in-demand Suspense 3. The other one is the Suspense 10 although this one does have other pedigree copies that had sold on Heritage. And then the Suspense 8 with the classic spider cover which has been copied on a few other occasions and which must be residing in a private collection in all its beautiful glory.

Except for buyers who might just be able to scoop up a book for a bit less if other potential bidders are busy elsewhere. As for me, although there appears to be quite a bit more of nice GA books this time, I doubt that I will be able to win any of them since I don't like CL's auction format. I don't like the idea of having to blindly throw in high bids at the end hoping to win a book. I much rather prefer the extended bidding process that CC utilizes since it allows me to have more control in terms of knowing exactly how much a book is going to cost me. As a result, the only books that I have ever won off CL are basically just low ball offers for books that nobody else must want.

Yes, definitely the case as there are a lot of second tier GA publishers like Centaurs and Fox which did not seem to be in the CC auction on this go round. Clear evidence is that I have bids in on over 20 books in the CC auction and I am either winning them or the first under bidder on all of them. Either nobody's paying much attention this time due to the lack of relative quality or it's still too early with CC's extended auction bidding format where everything is really determined in the extended bidding time period that there is not much point to bid now.

No, not sacrilege, but definitely bad taste on your part here. But as always, to each their own.

Not a problem at all as I believe you may have missed my point as I feel the same way about the book as you. I was comparing it relative to the nosebleed grade of CGC 9.8 for the Blue Bolt 105 whereby the $15K price to date would have been greatly influenced by that number on the top left hand corner of the slab. The CGC 8.0 Blue Beetle 52, on the other hand, coming in with an impressive $1,500 pretty much right out of the starting gates is due much more to the value of the underlying book itself and less so to the sometimes transitory value of a CGC's highest graded label. Although we always hear about multi million dollar sales for CGC 9.0 copies of Action 1 which always catches the attention of the media and the public, I am more impress when lower graded copies of books can achieve big dollars relative to condition guide. For example, I was impressed when CC was able to auction off CGC 3.0 graded copies of Detective 29 (45th highest graded) and Detective 38 (75th highest graded) at something like 4X condition guide. Doesn't have to be the highest graded, but you can see that the real value is in the underlying book itself. As for the Blue Beetle 52, I feel this book has been undervalued for the longest time and its day in the sun is indeed about to come. The fact that it can hit $1,500 mere hours into the auction from my point of view is an indication that we are going to see another much deserved record result for this previously under-appreciated book. Hate to say this, but I actually prefer the BB 52 with its bold beautiful colors more so than the BB 54 which has long held the title as one of the premiere GGA covers from decades ago when Overstreet first identified this genre of comic book collecting way back when.

Well, I guess it's all about the covers as this Blue Beetle with the classic Kamen female bondage cover is only in VF condition, but already approaching the $1,500 mark: While the other 2 Kamen Blue Bettle GGA covers are lagging far behind at only around the $100 mark at this point.

All I can say is that if I was a consignor, I would certainly not be very happy with what these 2 auction houses are doing. Similar to their Event Auction back in March, not only are the auctions for CC and CL ending on the same days, they are also ending at the same times. With ComicConnect's 3-minute extended auction format, it's hard enough to keep track of their auctions as they are "ending". Now, we also have to stay on top of the CL auction lots which are also ending at the exact same times. Definitely good for the buyers if some of the potential bidders are busy elsewhere, but definitely not so good for the consignors.

Yes, methinks this copy here will definitely do it. Well, looks like we were all right in terms our thinking here: http://comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FDEFAULT.ASP%3FFocused%3D1%26pg%3D8%26x%3D34%26y%3D13%23Item_1269937&id=1269937&itemType=0 The auction only opened a few hours ago and it's already well past $10K and in fact, almost touching $15K with another 2 weeks to go.

Yes, I would definitely agree with you that this is the de facto stand-alone Silver Surfer cover of all time with the brilliant glowing red cover. So much so, that I believe I actually went out of my way to purchase a copy of this book at the going market rate at the time. Something that I've never done with any other SA Marvel book because they are just so available and it's usually just a matter of time to find what you want at a more than reasonable price.

Wow, it sounds as though you was one of the original founders for the San Francisco collection then. If this is indeed the case, then maybe you can answer a question which has arose many times on these boards here and one to which we have not received an answer for to this point in time: As far as you know, were there any Nedor books in the San Francisco collection as board members here have apparently never seen or heard of a Nedor SF book? My bad as I must have been reading too fast and not paid attention to who I was quoting. I was indeed actually referring to Ron and hoping that he would finally be able to provide the answer to this long held question for all of us here.