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I gave the 1st 3 TPB I have to a friend to read, so I'm not sure what the extras were. But this is what's in the HC's. HC #1: Morgan & Duane Christmas story from Image Holiday Special, 9 page Sketchbook, & original covers HC #2: 2 page sketchbook & original covers HC #3: 2 page sketchbook & original covers HC #4: 4 page sketchbook & original covers HC #5: Suppose to have been out in January... All the original covers artwork is without the Walking Dead title. Looks like HC #1 was stacked with alot more extras than the others.

If it was the zombie apoc, I'd bash that book right through the zombies head!!! 9.6, 9.8, 9.9, or 10.0 who cares? You can't appreciate it or flip it if your dead.

One flaw... if more than 1 corner of the outer case is cracked CGC will regrade the book for the reholder. Maybe that 10 downgrades...

+1 The hands are awesome!!!!!! Very cool book!

Hence the "it's not an 'ugly' shot" I was referring to itssmeeeeee's post that he didn't think it was a stab at Marvel at all. Marvel deserves an "ugly shot" though after they attacked DC with their Deadpool variant incentive for DC books that didn't sell.

Of course it's a shot at Marvel, and it's funny. I'm sure the Marvel guys are laughing too. Kirkman is know for his sense of humor. This isn't his first shot at them either. He admitted his "Invincible War" being 1 issue, while the "Invincible War Aftermath" being several was a joke at the big 2's "events." (thumbs u

The Invincible one was posted earlier too. That's awesome! Cool picture. I bet it's not a series at all. Just Kirkman taking a shot at Marvel's Avengers advertising campaign.

Oh great, here we go again. Black vs white. I don't care what Kirkman said. Black is rarer. I seriously think he's just taking people for a ride on that one. I see nothing but white everywhere. Does everyone have a rare copy then? Doesn't make sense. It could make alot of sense. There are 9 white versions on eBay right now and 3 black. As I posted before a couple pages earlier in this thread, before people started adding "RARE" to the black version listings on eBay they were really hard to find. At that time, many people here who read this thread didn't even know it existed. Still doesn't prove anything I knew you were going to respond to that post.

That's awesome! Cool picture. I bet it's not a series at all. Just Kirkman taking a shot at Marvel's Avengers advertising campaign.

Oh great, here we go again. Black vs white. I don't care what Kirkman said. Black is rarer. I seriously think he's just taking people for a ride on that one. I see nothing but white everywhere. Does everyone have a rare copy then? Doesn't make sense. It could make alot of sense. There are 9 white versions on eBay right now and 3 black. As I posted before a couple pages earlier in this thread, before people started adding "RARE" to the black version listings on eBay they were really hard to find. At that time, many people here who read this thread didn't even know it existed.

That somehow feels like cheating...

i tired to do a buy it now last week and it didnt work, i hate to see them go but i have a new baby on the way and need to get some diapers. You listed them as "Siberian" instead of Serbian. And are all the Ticks gone? Thanks for the correction!! Bastards! I canceled all bids so i can make the correction in the description/title and now it STILL wont let me make the changes!! UGH! No Ticks! Maybe? My bid got canceled out..... So you're the one who outbid me. I couldn't let them sit there with 0 bids, so I put in the almighty 0.99 Good luck on your auction, I have some extras of these too...

They are legit. In fact, his #10 is the variant and had a smaller print run than 500. They are something else Steve (Evil Ash) brought to our attention awhile back. He even sold some here to lots of other boardies. If memory serves me right he was charging about $180 back them, but I don't remember. I searched the internet and made a friend in Serbia to get mine. They are pretty rare. HA! I think the seller was checking this site, cause the #10 just changed to the regular version. It's NOT the black & white variant anymore.

In fact #1 and #2 are super rare!!!

They are legit. In fact, his #10 is the variant and had a smaller print run than 500. They are something else Steve (Evil Ash) brought to our attention awhile back. He even sold some here to lots of other boardies. If memory serves me right he was charging about $180 back them, but I don't remember. I searched the internet and made a friend in Serbia to get mine. They are pretty rare.

Yeah, math guys can debate trival things for hours. I agree on that. As far as Steve, between the original artwork, Tony Moore sketches, sketches on books, serbian #1, etc... it's hard to keep up with what he's got. I'm just happy when he shares pictures here. (thumbs u Hey Steve, it's been awhile I'm sure people would like to see that frame I'm talking about.

I know my post count isn’t that high, but I’ve been frequenting these boards for awhile. Especially this thread in particular. This issue of the black vs. white seems to keep popping up. This is my timeline that’s lead to my opinion that the black version is rarer for anyone who cares: 1. I bought WD #1 raw when the book was in the early 20’s. 2. Then I learned there were 2 versions of WD #1. It was here on the boards, probably from Steve. (Most of you know him as Evil Ash.) 3. The information presented was that the white version was rarer. When I check my copy I felt pretty good because that’s the one I had. 4. Since then, I’ve seen 2 sets of numbers floating around about the print run. One was that there were 10,000 copies printed with about 3,000 white and 7,000 black. The other rumor was 7,000 total. I still don’t know for sure which is correct. 5. So I was happy with my rare white #1 and focused on collecting the remaining issues. It took me a while to complete my collection because I was on a tight budget. 6. But while I was collecting the others I casually watched WD #1 prices. That’s when I started to question the white was rarer. 7. After I finished my run, it bugged me that I didn’t have the black version. I don’t know why because I usually don’t collect variants. Maybe, it’s because WD is my favorite book and I enjoyed collecting the others. 8. So I decided to buy it. I waited and waited and waited and there wasn’t a single copy on eBay for weeks. However, the white ones were in abundance. 9. I posted in the “Want to Buy” thread here and people thought I was asking for the #50 cover swipe Special #1. I couldn’t even find a picture using Google to show what I was talking about. Thankfully, Steve (Evil Ash) read the thread and posted his awesome framed version with the original art. (I’m still jealous of that by the way Steve.) Needless to say people posted some shocked posts. 10. Then I found one and bought it. I then posted pictures of it there and in this thread. 11. AFTERWARDS, people started selling them on eBay with the RARE tag added to their auctions. Yes, I think a lot of dealers frequent these boards. Before then, nobody was even noting the difference and they certainly weren’t selling for different prices. The same thing happened with the preview books after they were discussed here. After people talked about them here, they started selling on eBay. 12. Whenever, I check nowadays there are always more white versions for sale than black. Well, there you go. This is just one guys observations, take what you want from it. Maybe a lot of people are on step 3! !

Ok, I'll take the bait... Well, to your first point the Central Limit Theorem that refers to the law of large numbers sample size mathematically kicks in at 30. Which to be fair is pretty small. (Yes, I was a math major in College.) I know my sample would easily be over 100, maybe even 200. For a while when I was trying to buy my black version I had to wait over a month before one came up on eBay. I even posted here in the Want to Buy thread with no success. At that time there were routinely at least 10 to 15 WD #1 (white) for sale on eBay as it was a heavily traded book. I just did a quick snapshot of eBay. I typed in Walking Dead into the search and got 5 pages of WD stuff. There were 6 WD white and Zero black. I know that doesn't prove anything, but if you need convincing you should try that yourself once a week and just compare. Let me know by PM if you EVER see more black for sale than white and I'll send you something WD related for your discovery. To the second point, grading is always subjective and that's my opinion. Go for it! I'd love to see if I'm right. Here is his picture and the blunt I'm refering to. Although I'm not a math major I have taken a fair amount of stats courses and am just currently working on my sampling assignment for Psychology due tomorrow. I do not see Ebay as a random sampling. Even if I were to assume Ebay to be a random sampling I do not see the large discrepancy discussed here. Currently the snapshot favours the White Label but over the last 5 months that has not been the case. Considering the number that I have purchased my experience has been 50/50. There is also the fact that the Black Label has been advertised as the rare version on Ebay for atleast a year. Can I show you my last CGC submission to claim my WD prize? It is the vast majority of WD #1's sold on Ebay between Nov 1 2009 and Feb 15th 2010. I only let 3 slip by with 2 being black label. Not so fast. I think you misunderstood my challenge. On any given day, if you see more copies of the black version for sale than the white on eBay send me a PM. That’s it. (Of course from your post, I have to say be fair. If you’ve bought that many copies you’re a dealer. Don’t post a bunch of your black copies on eBay at the same time just to win a wager. !) I don’t know what your CGC submission would prove since CGC doesn’t distinguish between the two. I do think eBay over a long period of time is as close to a random sample as we can get. They sell a ton of books from people across the country and abroad. Considering the LCS in any particular area probably got the same type of copies, any store would certainly be a biased sample. And it’s certainly a more random sample than someone’s personal collection.

One of mine is raw, the other is a 9.6. All 4 corners on my 9.6 are better than that pic, maybe it's worth a resub.

Really??? Wow, I'd be pissed if I spent the money for a 9.8 and it was blunted on a corner. I would count yourself lucky. Not that it needs to be said, but NEVER crack it out.

To add to my post above... I'm not currently nor do I plan to sell my black version. So I'm not trying to push the black as rare to raise a price or anything like that. I also have the white version as well. So regardless I'm sitting pretty. I'm just trying to share what I've seen/found with others here on the boards. I've learned a ton here, and it's nice to share info back with others. (thumbs u

Ok, I'll take the bait... Well, to your first point the Central Limit Theorem that refers to the law of large numbers sample size mathematically kicks in at 30. Which to be fair is pretty small. (Yes, I was a math major in College.) I know my sample would easily be over 100, maybe even 200. For a while when I was trying to buy my black version I had to wait over a month before one came up on eBay. I even posted here in the Want to Buy thread with no success. At that time there were routinely at least 10 to 15 WD #1 (white) for sale on eBay as it was a heavily traded book. I just did a quick snapshot of eBay. I typed in Walking Dead into the search and got 5 pages of WD stuff. There were 6 WD white and Zero black. I know that doesn't prove anything, but if you need convincing you should try that yourself once a week and just compare. Let me know by PM if you EVER see more black for sale than white and I'll send you something WD related for your discovery. To the second point, grading is always subjective and that's my opinion. Go for it! I'd love to see if I'm right. Here is his picture and the blunt I'm refering to.

2 things: First, I've been saying for a LONG time now that the Black version is more rare. Yes, I'm primarily using eBay as my source, but I've been observing that for at least the past 2 YEARS... Second, that RAW copy isn't going to grade 9.8. You can see the top left corner is dinged in the picture. So it's a 9.6 at best, and probably a 9.4.

I bought a black label CGC 9.6 SS (Tony Moore) for $225 back in July, and I overpayed for it. 9.6's were selling for less than $200 back then. I justified spending the extra money because I had been searching for over a month for the black label. Which I wanted, because I already had the white version. Plus, the book was a SS, so I spent the extra money.

WOW!!! I haven't looked as these prices for awhile since I already completed my WD run a few months ago. Even 9.6 copies are now selling for over $300 on eBay. Here is a CGC 9.6 at $350 with 2 days remaining. WOW. http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-WALKING-DEAD-1-NEAR-MINT-CGC-9-6-AMC-TV-SERIES_W0QQitemZ160406498735QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2558f8edaf