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Still looking for interior scans or pictures of Goose Lake Gags if anyone has 'em. Thanks!

Just as an interesting aside. A number of the more iconic Crumb pieces in the pictures from the Basel Cartoonmuseum (Bijou cover, East Village Other, Yellow Dog cover) are on loan from the Sack Collection.

Thanks. looks like Amazon will be carrying the book. Curious that it has the same title as the collection that came out a few years ago. Page count is smaller, though. I'm wondering if it's worth getting due to redundancy. Blurb says it has material unpublished in Europe...interesting way to put it. Did you buy a copy? If so can you comment on it versus the other book with the same title? Any other thoughts about it as a Crumbist? I didn't buy one. I also don't have the collection that came out a few years ago, so I can't really say whether its worth getting... The blurb on the museum page also says that it has material unpublished in Europe. The curator didn't use this caveat, but it has me thinking the material has been published in the United States, possibly in the first Drawn Together book.

Yes on both counts. According to the curator the exhibition catalog has some unpublished Robert & Aline collaborative work in it. Exhibition Catalog Poster

Nice Murder WP. Today I finally got a chance to catch the Crumb exhibit that's been showing in Basel since July. Chatted with the curator and she mentioned this show was headed to NY before long, so there's a chance for some of you on the East Coast to catch it. I would highly recommend it to any Crumb (or Kominsky-Crumb) enthusiasts. Here some highlights: Some amazing early work: Detail of Charles' weird line work. Some sick vintage Crumb pieces. Some record related stuff (they had a whole room full of the more contemporary music-related and Art & Beauty type work). Placemats... sorry for the Crumby pic Last but not least there was this little gem: The show was primarily focused on Aline and Robert's Dirty Laundry, collaborative work. Also Aline's solo work from Power Pak Comics and Wimmen's Comix, I just happened not to take too many pictures of that stuff. It was good fun, hope you enjoy perusing!

I had 5. Sold off a couple so far, though. Wow, good stuff. If it's not privileged info, do you happen to know more about what came out of his stash? Is that where some of the Ozones came from that've recently been floating around? Have not seen any Ozone materialize. Pretty sure not from the Gary estate or at least the part I was privy to before and after his demise.

I had 5. Sold off a couple so far, though. Wow, good stuff. If it's not privileged info, do you happen to know more about what came out of his stash? Is that where some of the Ozones came from that've recently been floating around?

Gary Arlington's stash of minty All-Stars #2? That has a downright mystical air to it... Any fresh copies of San Francisco Comic Book #1 in that stash? Apropos what was mentioned earlier in the thread, it does seem like recently more rare undergrounds have surfaced on ebay, although often listed at guide or higher. There certainly are more Ozone #1s available than I can remember seeing. Not a bad thing. If memory serves, a stash of Ozone #1s turned up not too long ago, likely accounts for some of the copies on ebay. There was a guy on Facebook recently who claimed to have 20 copies (and a near complete run of UGs going back to '64). One of the more interesting aspects of collecting undergrounds has been watching the hobby mature, as more and more caches of books are tapped into and dispersed via ebay and by other means. It's still a bit like the wild west for UGs, but this will not be the case forever. Inevitably things will have to settle down. On an other note, does anyone have interior scans or pictures of Goose Lake Gags? I would be much obliged!

Nice pick up, can never have too many of that one!

There's obviously a ton of intermingling between music and comix, but here are a couple more overtly record related comix that came to mind. Though not related to a specific album, Douglas Comix was commissioned by record producer and publisher Alan Douglas... The second half of the comic features a number of high profile UG artists taking on various albums released by Douglas Records. There's also "Song of an Aeropteryx" by Hal Rammel, an 8-page comic book that included a 7" by Davey Williams and LaDonna Smith; it was published by Black Swan Press and the music label Trans Museq in 1983. You might know Rammel's work from "Aero into the Aether", a surrealist comix from 1980 that features in the Kennedy guide. This one's a bit more tangential, but there's also "Hot Tub Tapeworm" and "Buy Til You Die" by Jane J. Oliver (Jerry the Stoned Vampire, Pagan Comix, etc). They're a couple of one-sheet comics, a la S. Clay Wilson's "Bernice Saves Grizzly Harry" or Rodney Schroeter's "The Weirdo #1", which are based on song lyrics by the early 80's new wave/garage rock band Felix Culpa. Oliver seems to have been friends with the band, and is also credited for taking the photo on their first record.

Cool book, but why assume it was anything other than a printing error, which is fairly common with underground comics. It was pretty much printed one sheet at a time with room for experimentation or just a cool thing to play around with when stoned. I doubt it was unintentional. Cool book! Value wise, you'd think there would have to be a pretty premium for an anomolous copy like this, but since it's already a pricey book I doubt you'd find anyone paying multiples of guide for it. On a good day, to the right person at the right time, yadda, yadda, yadda, I think you could expect a 75%-100% premium. But what do I know? Here's a pic of the copy oldmilwaukee mentioned that neatstuff sold on ebay a while back. To my recollection it didn't sell for much more than what the value of an ordinary copy was at the time (I think someone pulled the trigger at around 4K, but I'm not sure anymore). As 50cent mentioned, the color of the blues on Plymells can also have an impact on price. The lighter blue books are believed to be from early in the print run and are sometimes more desirable.

Sweet web site! Good excuse to post this.

I haven't been selling on eBay, but thinking about maybe listing some more. I think the last underground comix items I sold were some Mike Roden Thru Black Holes stuff. You've probably seen this, but someone sold a nice batch of the later Roden books on e-bay last month. Starting bids were between $14.99 and $19.99... Road Trip (2006) $68 Halloween #7 (2006) $57 Weird World #1 (2003) (50 copies) $52 Tiki Comix (2007) (approx. 50 copies) $48 Crazy Men #7 (2007) $47 Skull (2003) (only 30 copies) $47 Michael Roden Comix Check List (1986) (50 copies) $45 If I recall correctly, most of these were books Michael was selling in his e-bay store back in '05 - '07 just before he passed... I bought from him at the time, but neglected to pick up some of these.

Post a link, I don't know which Facebook page you're referring to as there are multiples. Arnie, do you mean this one? The one you've been posting your sweet art in? Underground Comix Group on FB Guy, any other UG pertinent FB groups that aren't public that I should be aware of?

Good point, forgot about that. Did you see that the CPG forums are back? All the data of past threads has apparently been irretrievably lost... Huge bummer.

Afraid not. You will have to upload an image to a picture-sharing site before you can post it here. I use photobucket, it's free and pretty easy to use. Here's what the CGC board Noob guide has to say about sharing pictures: Generally, never post an image larger than 1000px for either Horizontal or Vertical. You can resize large photos or scans on Microsoft Paint. - Open the image with Microsoft Paint - "Resize" at the top left - Select "Pixels" - Usually 700 - 750 for the longer side is best Upload using http://www.tinypic.com (You can resize here as well: Message Board (640x480)) Upload your image, then copy and paste the: "IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards" You can also do a Google Image search for images: Google Images, click on the image, click "View Image", copy the link at the top of your browser, paste it using above. Other sites to upload: http://postimage.org/ http://www.photobucket.com (if you use Photobucket, be advised the image will disappear after a period of time) http://imgur.com/

Must be the gooddr! Took me a while to find the #2 on Abe. I agree, it seems a bit high given its tattered condition. Didn't know NG #1 was ever on par with Gunfighter 3, but I always thought of it as a bit of a key. Do you know anything about its history? I understand Kent Robertson made a bit of a splash in counter cultural circles in the late 60's, particularly in San Francisco. Even Herb Caen sang his praises! To post pictures you have to switch to the full reply screen and click the third tiny icon from the left above the dialog box (the icon looks like a tiny picture with geometric shapes in it)... Then you can copy in a direct link to your image... Hope that helps.

Yes, it's mostly a tract interspersed with some illos. No real comic strips, but some reprinted Crumb drawings and a couple of pages of UG covers like Rory Hayes's cover to San Francisco Comics #1 if I recall correctly. New Gravity is of interest to me in that it is a window into the San Francisco counter culture. While I am wholly unqualified to judge the veracity of Kent Robertson's physics, I'm intrigued by the spirit alive in individuals like Don Donahue and Gary Arlington who see the publication of something like The New Gravity almost as an act of revelation. For me this enthusiasm epitomizes the underground comix movement.

From what I gather, the author Kent Robertson is a dissident scientist who aggressively opposes the Big Bang theory as a cosmological model for the universe. He is an advocate for Einstein's unified field theory, and posits gravity as the fourth dimension. The UG connection is that Don Donahue printed the tract and that it reprints art by several UG artists (don't remember off hand, but I think Robert Crumb and Rory Hayes are among them). I also came across this quote attributed to Don: "This book has clearly made a formerly mystified theoretical physics truly comprehensible to anyone with high school reading skills and 'street people' in general. Beyond its overt revolutionary scientific import, the social implications are also profound. Bound to surprise and constructively influence an enormous number of people for a very long time. Ignoring or denying it won't make it go away. Now I know what E=MC squared means." Here is the second issue: And here's a mini comic I got directly from Don which isn't listed in Kennedy:

Sweet, looking forward to reading it! I too couldn't get myself to clunk down $500 for the boxed set. The $14.99 I can bear to spend, although that also seems like a lot...

Hi Swebvella. It's strange how the comicspriceguide forum just went poof. At one point they were performing some maintenance saying they were getting closer to restoring the forum, but their communication regarding their progress hasn't been great. And yes, as 50 Cent mentions, sadly the comixjoint forum has also been down lately. Here we just have one thread in the magazine section, but make yourself at home!

Excellent catches dannyboycheapyboy! I'm also not sure about whether Uncle Sam Takes LSD in the Rip Off Review of Western Culture #1 was meant to be removable, nor do I know whether the bound version of Ph*cked Up Funnies distributed as an insert with the SUNY yearbook was removable. I just checked on Coevolution Quarterly #21, and, while MLF Communique #1 is printed in there, it looks to be a four-page spread in the magazine rather than a removable insert... Indeed, I don't know whether there is a standalone version of MLF Communique #1. Anyone have their Kennedy Guide handy? metarog, I didn't know about Warren's Goblin magazine, but checking up on it I came across an interesting anomaly in CGC's labeling of the book which might be relevant to questions raised in this thread about how CGC treats magazines with comic inserts. I noticed that while some graded copies of Goblin #1 note the 8 page color insert on the labels, others do not. This inconsistency might be due merely to a change over time in CGC's policy of how to label this particular magazine; however, it did cross my mind that maybe CGC simply doesn't mention the insert on the label when it isn't there. If the latter is the case, it would be confirmation that CGC does not consider missing comic inserts as deleterious to the grade of magazines; CGC graded copies of Goblin #1 which do not have the 8 page color insert mentioned on the label still received high grades and universal blue labels. Here is a copy with the 8 page insert mentioned: And here one without mention of the 8 page insert:

Indeed. I believe that was rjpb's point as well. It appears to make perfect sense that CGC would grade inserts like the Golden Records reprints as stand alone items: I mean, wouldn't it be rather absurd if the condition, presence, or absence of the record and sleeve that the comic came with had any bearing on the grade of the comic? The same goes for items like MOTU mini comics, or Aurora Comic Scenes instruction booklets: They should be graded purely on their state of preservation and their integrity as bound paper items. Of course, any collectible product that comes with such a bound paper item is incomplete without it, and consequently the value and grade of that product will be compromised should the item be removed or lost. The bound paper item itself, however, will retain some value as a stand alone product, and, as we are all probably aware, sometimes this values can be very significant (As a case in point, check out this Clay Fighters Sculptor's Cut Nintendo 64 manual that recently sold on ebay). Perhaps this is CGCs reasoning behind grading RAW's Maus inserts as stand alone items: When submitted, inserts are judged purely on their state of preservation and integrity as singular bound paper items, without any regard for where the items came from. Most collectors are completists by nature, and when they decide to send their Golden Records comic reprint, Aurora model kit instruction, or MOTU mini comic off to get graded by CGC, they will likely--for the sake of completion--retain the products from which such paper items came. What makes the Maus insert so anomalous, is that, even when reunited with the issue of RAW from which it came, it will never again truly complete it. Detaching the Maus insert from RAW gives the insert a life of its own as a stand alone entity, but at the same time it mutilates the binding of the source from which it came, and forever messes with the state of preservation and integrity of RAW as a bound paper item: To remove a Maus insert from RAW to have it graded would be analogous to opening a MIB Eternia Playset to get at the MOTU mini comic inside the box; in short, it doesn't make sense. If the insert was already removed by some unknown third-party years ago, I guess it's a different story; I might even endorse grading under such circumstances. 50, my guess would be that if a flexidisc was part of the original binding of a comic or magazine, its removal would result in an incomplete grade from CGC, or at the very least the absence of the disc would have very adverse effects on the grade. Not sure how they would handle a scratched disc still attached to the binding. The special limited edition of Mark Bode's Miami Mice #3 also had a flexi disc by the way. porcupine48, I would love to see the two comics you mention, they sound right up my alley!