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I dont think any of us long term collectors will ever be able to justify paying to authenticate and slab original published art. Especially if "grading" is a part of that mentality as well. (To be honest, when it comes to the stuff in my collecting wheel house, I trust my own judgement and knowledge far more than I would a third party service.) That said, sketches / sketch covers... I can see the logic in, although, it's still not for me.

BOTH PAGES HAVE BEEN SOLD! Thank you everyone for the interest! I have one other splash page from the series. Albeit more pricey! PM me if interested.

Hey All, Two pages for sale right now from Dan Slott's soon-to-be classic, Superior Spider-Man, penciled by Humberto Ramos. It's from the climax Goblin vs Hobgoblin fight that leads directly into the Goblin Nation story ark. Pages are on Humberto's own branded smaller size 8.5x13 comic art board. Page 16 - SOLD Page 17 - SOLD Shipping is 20.00 within North America, or 45.00 International ALSO - Feel free to take 30% off the price of ANY of the artwork in my FOR SALE gallery on CAF (it's all Romita Jr color guides though... And shipping is still 20 bucks.) http://www.comicartfans.com/galleryroom.asp?gsub=11827 Thanks for looking everyone! Mike

I dont think it is. Those fresh white stat logos makes me think this is one of theirs. We wont find out till the description though. If it were real though. Jeez. I dont know. 50k+ hammer price?

I dont think you'll get many people here telling you it's worth it to "slab" your art... A frame though sounds like a great option if it's something you want to proudly display.

I agree. The JMS stuff is all 15+ years old now. His run was an integral part of Marvel's 2000's renaissance and is a no brainer for the nostalgia factor. Plus, it's JrJr ASM. Im not sure about it being complete adding to the price though. Maybe. But I usually see the opposite happen with sold whole books.

Love the theme and all the Ultimate Spidey in here! As for "my first Bagley"... I bought both of these at the same time in July of 2001. However, technically, I reserved the page from issue 4 first, and then the 2 page spread from issue 1 a few days later. (I checked my old yahoo email sent folder to confirm.)

Oh this has happened to me more than once. And usually the auctions being quoted off heritage are years old... But even if they weren't this is when I send an email back explaining I'm not selling at FMV for a NFS piece. As I don't want to sell it for that. They're paying me to let go of something I don't want too, and it'll cost 10x FMV to do so... I usually don't hear back after that.

Funny thing is, those covers were all 8k before Greg released a bunch of his artwork for sale a few years ago. Spencer raised the price in response to that. https://web.archive.org/web/20130322065314/http://theartistschoice.com/miki.html#SPAWN

Hey Everyone, Putting up a bunch of stuff for sale at all budgets... Some is fresh, some is price reduced, all are sweet. All items are shipped within NORTH AMERICA via paypal as gift (or add 4% to the total price)... International shipping is an additional $30.00 Patrick Block Scrooge Secret Invasion Sketch Cover - $50.00 Whilce Portacio Red Skull Sketch - $100.00 Salvador Larocca - Invincible Iron Man 6 pg. 12 - $200.00 Casey Coller - Transformers Robots in Disguise Cover - $225.00 Mike Perkins Captain America 16 pg. 6 - $225.00 Mike Wieringo - Fantastic Four Pinup - 350.00 ** SOLD Graham Nolan - Vengence of Bane II pg. 50 - $550.00 **This was dinged in shipping and the only reason it doesn't cost a kings ransom. And probably the only chance you'll ever get to get a Ringo! FF pinup affordably. Please see the final scan. The ding is near Reed's hand. As well as theres a ding outside the border away from the art. Any questions feel free to ask. Thanks! Mike

Thats what I wanna know!

I got my first page in the early 90s a Christmas present from my Mom. A Byrne Avengers page.... But I didnt start collecting myself until 2001.

Ditko.

Im completely mind boggled by this! I always figured myself pretty savy at valuing the stuff in my wheel house. But every year since 2014 the cosmic market has left me dumbfounded. This has to be getting to the ceiling. It can't keep going up like this. (Not that Im complaining!!!!)

James Jean's Yoda!

He was the first "big name" to do pencils and then have it inked via bluelines in 2003 with his Fantasic Four work... Im digging deep into my memories here. But. Im pretty sure it largely had to do with saving the time Fedexing the artwork. Odds are I'm not the only old timer who associates the blueline process with him mentally. And also not the only collectors who makes a special rule specifically for his art... And you know, because everything else I have of his is all pencil. I think if there were an issue of his FF run done the old fashioned way (and I do recall there may have been one??) that an inked page may actually be LESS desirable (to me) because it doesn't fit in with the rest of his work I have from that series. It would stand out like a sore thumb which would bother me.

I avoid blue lined ink art like the plague if theres original pencils out there. Id rather have the pencils any day. It bugs me knowing an inked page is also out there. In fact I pretty much wont touch art thats made that way unless it's done by Mike Wieringo. Anytime I doubt, I use this line "Has this artists hands physically touched this artboard with a pencil?"

I actually dont think theres anything wrong with using bravado in negotiations so long as the gambit pays off. Which is what that statement was, and it sounds like it did... It's just the fact that the suits at WB actually bought that line that astounds me. But they also might be numbers guys vs comics guys who have no real idea what influence Miller had aside from a graph that shows that the value of Miller's work on Batman. Yeah. That's kinda what I thought.

Good for him. I didn't realize you referencing his negoations with WB. It sounded more like he took that approach with his fans. That said, this gave me a good laugh. But since I havent read anything I cant completely judge. Is this book that ground breaking to the point where it'll change the entire tone and direction of Batman for the next 30 years?

Im in the same boat. Your art, price it however you want. That said... I dont know of artists whove done this, but I know of dealers fleecing noobs by out right lying about the collectability of an over priced piece. I generally dont have sympathy for the uninformed. But. Just cause one is uninformed doesn't mean they should be lied too about the investment they're making. And when I hear an artist compare himself to the pump and dump masters on The Wolf of Wallstreet, I cant help but think about that mentality being used to fleece uninformed collectors. (It should be noted, I did not hear the podcast, nor have I've never dealt Murphy, and Im not making a definitive statement about him personally. Im just using him as an example since he's the subject of topic. He may just play hard ball rather than being an actual wolf to his fans.) As much as I think Capullo's pricing is silly. He admits he's charging tomorrow's price today. He admits it's not actually worth the asking price but its precious to him, and if people want it for astronomical money who is he to say "No". Quesada did the same thing 15 years ago when he started selling art again on his forum. His paraphrased words to his forum fans were "I dont want to sell this stuff. But if you guys wanna pay way more than it's worth, have at it." and a ton of 5-`10k covers went for sale and most sat there for years before being moved to Spencer's site where they still sat. And most that were bought in that time were eventually resold at auction at some point for a small loss. The point was, no was is being misled about the collectible for the sake of the sale. Over price it all you want. Just be honest about the fact that it's over priced. (Side note. JQ sold one Thor cover for 2k during that time (The only one priced that cheap save.) that has since been flipped and flipped again more than trippling it's value.... So...Yeah...)

Wow. Good eye! Yeah it's minor. But it's a pricey page, and all things considered, now would be the time to be extra diligent about these things.

Funny story about Steve that I think is relevant to this discussion. He and I both Made and Offer on a Ultimate Spidey cover back in the day for the same amount. The seller chose his offer over mine. Steve then put it up for sale at double the price on CAF like that night. I emailed him, told him my story, showed him my ultimate spidey collection, and he sold it to me for a 200 dollar markup (vs 800). Which was still less than its FMV at the time. In selling it to me less than at FMV but still making a profit. Is that flip? Is that greed? Should he have just yielded it to me at his cost price out of the kindness of his heart cause it was my collecting focus? (As some would seem to think was the morally right choice.) Or is that playing his cards just right? To me, it's playing his cards right. He made money and an ally in the hobby who ten years later is still singing his praise.

What's interesting about that? Steve's flipped lots over the years. So have I. And so have many others. This isn't some frowned upon practice. It's only interesting when the attempted flip is Donnelly level outrageous.

See. This is where I loose sympathy and think it's best to just to be quiet about the matter. He knew enough that he had a 25k piece of artwork on his hands. He was internet savy enough to list it on eBay. So it was within his means to do some research on his $25,000 dollar piece of paper to see what it was worth at present day. I literally just typed "1950s peanuts comic strip original art value" into google, and five links down there was a link to heritage with a list of comparable record prices you did not need to be signed into see. This isnt some esoteric golden age artwork where determining a value is a chore. It's a Schultz original. If he wanted to know the value he couldve found out within five minutes of googling. Now, that said, I have no doubt he got a ton messages after that auction ended and is already well aware it's worth more than 25k.