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All along the watchtower who he had a good voice along with being a great actor.

 

I was really impressed with that as well. He did a nice job with that song.

I thought it was a voice over.

It was definitely their best episodes in quite a while. They need to introduce more Marvel characters like Ghost Rider regularly. Last season was Inhumans which they portrayed poorly, but they've started this one well. I hope they could bring a few big names to the show this season.

 

Wicked.

Damn, the likeness is uncanny. Looks like it could have been a pic out of the film.

$750 might be a stretch, but $730-$740 seems within reach. Such a shame about china, this movie would have come within striking distance of BvS!

 

$750 isn't that big a stretch. BvS opened to $3,288,349 in Japan & ended with $16,531,874. SS opened to $3.6 & could reach $20+. I think they could bring in another $50 - $60 million with Japan, especially if weekly ticket sales keep dropping this slowly.

 

BTW, that is one awesome Sups collection.

I think SS will pass BvS domestically. I'd say they land around 330 - 335 domestic & 425 - 430 internationally (with 15 - 20+ million still to come from Japan) for a worldwide total of 755 - 765 million. I think it's doing well compared to BvS, which had a much stronger opening & dropped very quickly. Without China BvS would have only made about 10 - 20 million more than SS will.

I finally just watched the trailer and I have no interest. I didn't for Force Awakens either, but I caved in and was dragged to see it and wish I hadn't. This Rogue thing looks like they are trying to make it way to serious and Disney will never ever do anything new, it will all be rehashed original trilogy stuff since they have to forever pander to the prequel haters, the ones that hate anything creative, imaginative or new.

I would like them to do something with Yoda. He's so old that they could make something entirely different, from centuries ago. He's been my favorite Star Wars character since I was little.

9 weeks is a pretty sad #.

 

Agreed, I wondered for a second if it had some deal with the theaters for # of screens for distribution and it was "moving out of the way" for something else big...

 

The big hit was from week 4 to week 5 when it went from 1670+ theaters to 630, which was to make room for Foxes next big hit...

 

Independance Day 2: Where is Will Smith?

 

ouch. Outside of Deadpool it was a baaaaaaad year for Fox.

The domestic gross was awful. It's a good thing they did well overseas.

Extensive article about the progress of Suicide Squad at the box office, and projections what to expect.

 

FORBES.COM: 'Suicide Squad' 3rd Weekend Drop Is 2nd-Lowest For Genre This Year

 

Suicide Squad fell 52.1% on its third weekend of release, taking $20.8 million and raising its domestic cume to $262.4 million. Worldwide, the film topped $575 million this weekend after 17 days of release. Meaning it is certain to top $600 million next weekend, likely ending the weekend at around $615-620 million, depending on how well it holds on the weekdays, with a Japanese opening still to come in September. While the press coverage of the film continues to seek new ways to insist the numbers are bad, weak, or otherwise a sign of failure for the DCU, the latest numbers tell a different story and now make it clearer that the film will wind up with a strong final worldwide box office cume. Let’s look at the numbers more closely, and talk about what they really mean for the film today and down the road…

 

The 52.1% third-weekend domestic drop for Suicide Squad is the second-best hold among this year’s six superhero feature film releases. Deadpool, the only superhero film with a lower third-weekend decline than Suicide Squad, fell just 44.9% on its junior weekend in release. Of the remaining superhero films, Captain America: Civil War had a 54.7% fall, X-Men: Apocalypse dropped 56.6%, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice took a 54.5% dip, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Out of the Shadows fell 63.5%. We could note that those other films faced third-weekend competition from the likes of Finding Dory, Angry Birds, The Conjuring 2, and Warcraft for example; but then we’d also need to note Suicide Squad has faced daily competition from the Olympic Games as well as Jason Bourne, Sausage Party, and Pete’s Dragon to varying degrees, while playing during a month where box office attendance is typically smaller than the bigger summer months.

 

Suicide Squad’s third weekend domestic gross is also the seventh-biggest August weekend of all time for any film at this point or later during their domestic runs, and only five movies have ever had bigger August weekends at comparative points, those being The Sixth Sense, The Blair Witch Project, Guardians of the Galaxy, The Dark Knight (which had two August weekends higher than Suicide Squad’s third weekend take), and The Dark Knight Rises.

 

And estimates on Japan and overall.

 

How much can Suicide Squad take in Japan? To oversimplify and make a lot of assumptions, I think the tone and style of the film seeming similar to a cross between Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy, the presence of Batman and the Joker, plus Katana’s presence in marketing will help the film’s prospects. I’m betting it’s capable of pulling down roughly $15+ in Japan. I’d guess it’ll take at least $10 million in Japan on the lower end of predictions, and maybe $20 million on the higher end, while the pre-Japan box office cume will be at least $650 million and possibly as high as $660+ million, for a final low/high tally of around $660/680 million worldwide and a mid-range of $670 million.

 

Going back and looking at the 2016 dropoff rates for comic book movies, it's clear Deadpool is the winner for best dropoffs overall. The biggest 'loser' is X-Men: Apocalypse, as Fox yanked the movie from wide distribution on 7/28. That means it is the shortest general run rate, lasting only 63 days, or 9 weeks. Though it is still available overseas and in limited distribution across the domestic market.

 

9 weeks is a pretty sad #.

I wouldn't mind seeing the pilot.

Extensive article about the progress of Suicide Squad at the box office, and projections what to expect.

 

FORBES.COM: 'Suicide Squad' 3rd Weekend Drop Is 2nd-Lowest For Genre This Year

 

Suicide Squad fell 52.1% on its third weekend of release, taking $20.8 million and raising its domestic cume to $262.4 million. Worldwide, the film topped $575 million this weekend after 17 days of release. Meaning it is certain to top $600 million next weekend, likely ending the weekend at around $615-620 million, depending on how well it holds on the weekdays, with a Japanese opening still to come in September. While the press coverage of the film continues to seek new ways to insist the numbers are bad, weak, or otherwise a sign of failure for the DCU, the latest numbers tell a different story and now make it clearer that the film will wind up with a strong final worldwide box office cume. Let’s look at the numbers more closely, and talk about what they really mean for the film today and down the road…

 

The 52.1% third-weekend domestic drop for Suicide Squad is the second-best hold among this year’s six superhero feature film releases. Deadpool, the only superhero film with a lower third-weekend decline than Suicide Squad, fell just 44.9% on its junior weekend in release. Of the remaining superhero films, Captain America: Civil War had a 54.7% fall, X-Men: Apocalypse dropped 56.6%, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice took a 54.5% dip, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Out of the Shadows fell 63.5%. We could note that those other films faced third-weekend competition from the likes of Finding Dory, Angry Birds, The Conjuring 2, and Warcraft for example; but then we’d also need to note Suicide Squad has faced daily competition from the Olympic Games as well as Jason Bourne, Sausage Party, and Pete’s Dragon to varying degrees, while playing during a month where box office attendance is typically smaller than the bigger summer months.

 

Suicide Squad’s third weekend domestic gross is also the seventh-biggest August weekend of all time for any film at this point or later during their domestic runs, and only five movies have ever had bigger August weekends at comparative points, those being The Sixth Sense, The Blair Witch Project, Guardians of the Galaxy, The Dark Knight (which had two August weekends higher than Suicide Squad’s third weekend take), and The Dark Knight Rises.

 

And estimates on Japan and overall.

 

How much can Suicide Squad take in Japan? To oversimplify and make a lot of assumptions, I think the tone and style of the film seeming similar to a cross between Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy, the presence of Batman and the Joker, plus Katana’s presence in marketing will help the film’s prospects. I’m betting it’s capable of pulling down roughly $15+ in Japan. I’d guess it’ll take at least $10 million in Japan on the lower end of predictions, and maybe $20 million on the higher end, while the pre-Japan box office cume will be at least $650 million and possibly as high as $660+ million, for a final low/high tally of around $660/680 million worldwide and a mid-range of $670 million.

 

 

estimate is too low.

 

Now imagine if Warner Bros. was able to pull off a miracle, and break down the barrier with China? It's a pipe dream, as I have read some articles where they do not like the Enchantress character due to magic concerns. So it would go counter to their cultural teachings.

 

But maybe - maybe - it comes true.

If that were really the case, then Doctor Strange would be banned in China also.

 

Dr Strange doesn't have a release date for China:

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1211837/releaseinfo

If Disney knew Doctor Strange wouldn't be shown in China because of the whole magic angle, then they must realize this could possibly prevent future Avengers films from making it to China based on Doctor Strange's appearance in them. The whole thing seems crazy to me. If Harry Potter made it to China, I really don't see why the Enchantress would be a reason to pull SS. Harry Potter was all about magic, whereas only a small portion of SS is.

Extensive article about the progress of Suicide Squad at the box office, and projections what to expect.

 

FORBES.COM: 'Suicide Squad' 3rd Weekend Drop Is 2nd-Lowest For Genre This Year

 

Suicide Squad fell 52.1% on its third weekend of release, taking $20.8 million and raising its domestic cume to $262.4 million. Worldwide, the film topped $575 million this weekend after 17 days of release. Meaning it is certain to top $600 million next weekend, likely ending the weekend at around $615-620 million, depending on how well it holds on the weekdays, with a Japanese opening still to come in September. While the press coverage of the film continues to seek new ways to insist the numbers are bad, weak, or otherwise a sign of failure for the DCU, the latest numbers tell a different story and now make it clearer that the film will wind up with a strong final worldwide box office cume. Let’s look at the numbers more closely, and talk about what they really mean for the film today and down the road…

 

The 52.1% third-weekend domestic drop for Suicide Squad is the second-best hold among this year’s six superhero feature film releases. Deadpool, the only superhero film with a lower third-weekend decline than Suicide Squad, fell just 44.9% on its junior weekend in release. Of the remaining superhero films, Captain America: Civil War had a 54.7% fall, X-Men: Apocalypse dropped 56.6%, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice took a 54.5% dip, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Out of the Shadows fell 63.5%. We could note that those other films faced third-weekend competition from the likes of Finding Dory, Angry Birds, The Conjuring 2, and Warcraft for example; but then we’d also need to note Suicide Squad has faced daily competition from the Olympic Games as well as Jason Bourne, Sausage Party, and Pete’s Dragon to varying degrees, while playing during a month where box office attendance is typically smaller than the bigger summer months.

 

Suicide Squad’s third weekend domestic gross is also the seventh-biggest August weekend of all time for any film at this point or later during their domestic runs, and only five movies have ever had bigger August weekends at comparative points, those being The Sixth Sense, The Blair Witch Project, Guardians of the Galaxy, The Dark Knight (which had two August weekends higher than Suicide Squad’s third weekend take), and The Dark Knight Rises.

 

And estimates on Japan and overall.

 

How much can Suicide Squad take in Japan? To oversimplify and make a lot of assumptions, I think the tone and style of the film seeming similar to a cross between Deadpool and Guardians of the Galaxy, the presence of Batman and the Joker, plus Katana’s presence in marketing will help the film’s prospects. I’m betting it’s capable of pulling down roughly $15+ in Japan. I’d guess it’ll take at least $10 million in Japan on the lower end of predictions, and maybe $20 million on the higher end, while the pre-Japan box office cume will be at least $650 million and possibly as high as $660+ million, for a final low/high tally of around $660/680 million worldwide and a mid-range of $670 million.

 

 

estimate is too low.

 

Now imagine if Warner Bros. was able to pull off a miracle, and break down the barrier with China? It's a pipe dream, as I have read some articles where they do not like the Enchantress character due to magic concerns. So it would go counter to their cultural teachings.

 

But maybe - maybe - it comes true.

If that were really the case, then Doctor Strange would be banned in China also.

This is a classic case of word of mouth being better than critic reviews which leads to a nice box office.

 

Based on the results from this weekend, it still has a chance to top MOS.

 

What I find funny about the posters on these boards is this: if you read the ASM Homecoming thread and the Marvel fanboys are talking about how it is fine that they are changin the character ethnicities/ages and aiming the movie at a younger demographic. WB does that with SS and all of the Marvel fanboys are hammering the film.

 

 

 

no prayer. honestly, the math isn't that complicated.

 

Domestic is a given with the holiday next weekend. International will be close. Did Man of Steel play in China? If so, make the accomplishment of Suicide Squad that much better IMHO.

So true. SS is killing it in Russia at nearly 20 million in 10 days. I honestly don't think they kept Civil War in theaters more than 10 days, but I can see SS sticking around for a month+. Japan alone should be another 15+ million. There's still 10 - 12 weeks plus to go also & if the tickets keep selling, that time line could be extended. It should reach 270+ domestically by Thursday, giving it a 55% drop on the 3rd week. If it follows the pace on BvS from this point on, it should reach 300 domestic. It will certainly come close to MOS at the very least & should be able to pass it.

Chip --

 

I cared because it was a fact and not what had been previously stated, both by others and myself. Just wanted to get the record straight.

 

She may not ever be MJ to you...I will have to wait to see what the -script and the actress bring to the table to see if I like the MCU (not the Marvel Comics) version of her. She may be a great MJ for the MCU; just don't know yet.

 

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Regardless of how I feel about the casting choices, I still hope the movie kills it. I definitely don't want another Spidey reboot.

I have to amend my earlier comment -- she's not Latina, but rather half white, half black. My bad!

 

Dan

Who cares? She's NOT Mary Jane.

 

Change for a random reason is BS.

If I was an 18-year-old superhero and my girlfriend was Zendaya, I would have to face the fact that I just hit the jackpot.

Tru dat.

No way that guy can be Ned Leeds. Can you actually see him in a skin-tight Hobgoblin suit?

Ned Leeds probably won't be the Hobgoblin in this franchise.

If this is true, I won't be too keen to see this movie. My son would probably enjoy this...

 

 

Source:

skip to the 1:00 mark

It's looking like that's the way they're going. Surprised they didn't change Spidey also. From what I'm seeing, they've basically altered everything else.

 

Check the photo in the link. This MJ is clearly still a redhead.

 

And that's no more ridiculous than the blonde wig & blue contacts they slapped on Jessica Alba's (Hispanic) Sue Storm.

I saw it already & think she should just keep her natural hair color. I guess Laura Harrier/Liz Allen should be dying her hair blonde?

The villain Shocker is getting diversified too apparently? I don't know, I mean it's not a big deal in itself, but when I see arbitrary decisions to change the mythology like this I can't help but think of Fantastic Four and wonder if there's an unending string of more bad decisions in this movie coming that we just haven't heard about yet.

 

My spidey sense is tingling, I got a bad feeling about this one.

 

 

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/leaked-spider-man-homecoming-call-sheet-confirms-bokeem-woodbine-as-a144667

 

Who cares if they change Shocker's ethnicity? They already changed Electro's. Heck, I actually have no idea whether the original Shocker in the comics is white or black.

 

Ditto, I had to literally look up Deadshot's current ethnicity in DC continuity since the only time I've seen him without his mask on was in Batman # 59, where he's clearly white. (Spoiler: Deadshot's still white.)

 

Did anyone give a rat's that Deadshot was black in Suicide Squad?

 

Or (really) that Nick Fury was black?

What if they would have cast Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman with African/Mexican/Chinese actors? I wonder how that would go over.

 

Then their sales would be hurt, so they wouldn't do it. Those characters are already too well known in the mainstream to make those kinds of changes unless they have a VERRRRY good reason. They're looking for new opportunities to appeal to expanded markets and modernize the stories, not to alienate large swaths of casual fans who expect something and get something else (well DC did that anyways). I do understand the desire by fans to adhere more closely to long beloved source material, but I would argue that its FAR more important to movie execs to write and make solid movies with solid acting and get to the core of its main characters than it is to strictly adhere to physical likenesses of supporting characters. I think Marvel has done that fairly well, and race switching to me hasn't really taken away from that. Captain America didn't have a black gf or commanding officer (Tommy Lee Jones) in WWII, because that wouldn't have made sense for the time. In modern times, that is largely a non-issue, and Sam Jackson brings a lot more to the role than the perceived drawbacks of the race-switch. And if Spider-man is modern, which is more likely? That the prettiest girl at a middle lower class Queens public school is latina? or a tall redhead? If she wasn't mary jane and just a new character, they'd be getting a MILLION more complaints about 'why no mj?'

 

Everyone is of course entitled to their own opinion, I just think there's much more going on than 'change for the sake of change', or 'pushing political agendas because of liberal conspiracies'. Doesn't make it a great idea either, just doesn't make it automatically a bad idea.

 

I wouldn't have thought Jason Mamoa to an obvious choice for the aquaman of my youth either, but there doesn't seem to be quite as much outrage....

So it's basically ok to do with lesser know characters that won't ultimately effect ticket sales. Well the MJ switch might do just that. She's not an unknown character to the general masses anymore. If they're making MJ a Latina, I'm guessing she's no longer a red head. Keeping that one aspect true to the source material would just be ridiculous at this point. I'd honestly prefer that they create new characters that were never in the comics rather than see them mess with the original artists creations. I understand some changes might seem necessary, but I'd rather see Vulture without the tech & Spidey create his own suite for example. Maybe he could get some upgrades from Stark eventually, but not right off the bat. If they don't want to stick with the source material, then just create something new instead of going both ways. Just my .

The villain Shocker is getting diversified too apparently? I don't know, I mean it's not a big deal in itself, but when I see arbitrary decisions to change the mythology like this I can't help but think of Fantastic Four and wonder if there's an unending string of more bad decisions in this movie coming that we just haven't heard about yet.

 

My spidey sense is tingling, I got a bad feeling about this one.

 

 

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/leaked-spider-man-homecoming-call-sheet-confirms-bokeem-woodbine-as-a144667

 

Who cares if they change Shocker's ethnicity? They already changed Electro's. Heck, I actually have no idea whether the original Shocker in the comics is white or black.

 

Ditto, I had to literally look up Deadshot's current ethnicity in DC continuity since the only time I've seen him without his mask on was in Batman # 59, where he's clearly white. (Spoiler: Deadshot's still white.)

 

Did anyone give a rat's that Deadshot was black in Suicide Squad?

 

Or (really) that Nick Fury was black?

What if they would have cast Superman, Batman & Wonder Woman with African/Mexican/Chinese actors? I wonder how that would go over.

Something you said is interesting, "Maybe someone else doesn't care as much as I do...", that's the issue right there. When these film makes decide to deviate in big ways from the source material it strikes me as them not caring about and respecting the franchise. Maybe they hit a home run once in a while but I'll always be on the side of the debate that says it is better to honor what the original creators laid out.

I'm of the same opinion. If they want to diversify the films then just add characters of the genders & races that they're looking for rather than altering the characters themselves. You'll never see them change a black comic character white or a female into male. After all turn around is fair play. I feel the whole thing seems one sided & doesn't really sit well with me. I've accepted it to some extent like the Nick Fury switch, but I think they're pushing the whole thing too far.

So, I liked the movie well enough (with previously mentioned complaints), but thought this was a pretty funny video review on it nonetheless:

 

 

That is hilarious.

What a missed opportunity. Although it does sound like this would have been an over-crowded -script.

 

FANTASTIC FOUR Screenwriter Jeremy Slater Reveals His Original Epic Plans For The Reboot

 

Before Simon Kinberg and Josh Trank rewrote the screenplay, Jeremy Slater was hired by 20th Century Fox to dream up a new take on the franchise, though he's revealed in an interview with Screen Crush that pretty much none of his ideas ended up making it into the version we got.

 

Explaining that his version of Fantastic Four further delved into the inner workings of the Baxter Foundation and the relationship between Reed and Victor, Slater says that the team would have encountered Annihilus (described as, "a pissed-off cybernetic T-Rex") in the Negative Zone and got hit by radiation giving them their powers. Victor meanwhile would have still been left behind, but he was going to kill Annihilus and use his cosmic control rod to create, "a sort of living body armor."

 

"In addition to Annihilus and the Negative Zone, we had Doctor Doom declaring war against the civilized world, the Mole Man unleashing a 60 foot genetically-engineered monster in downtown Manhattan, a commando raid on the Baxter Foundation, a Saving Private Ryan-style finale pitting our heroes against an army of Doombots in war-torn Latveria, and a post-credit teaser featuring Galactus and the Silver Surfer destroying an entire planet. We had monsters and aliens and Fantasticars and a cute spherical H.E.R.B.I.E. robot that was basically BB-8 two years before BB-8 ever existed. And if you think all of that sounds great...well, yeah, we did, too. The problem was, it would have also been massively, MASSIVELY expensive."

 

But a live version of Annihilus - WOW!

 

If Disney had the rights back, this would have actually been the movie we got. They would have spared no expense to make this happen. Fox is too wrapped up with the X-Men franchise, so why not work something out with Disney that can benefit everyone. Seriously, out of 8 Marvel films Disney has made 6 hit movies in 5 years, while Fox has made 14 Marvel films with 4 or 5 hits in the past 17 year.

 

One has an Oscar the other doesn't.

So what? That has nothing to do with this comparison.

 

One was hyped, and failed. The other wasn't hyped, and succeeded.

 

Ummm.....this might be silly to ask, but what movie is the dude on the bottom from? I don't recall ever seeing it.

It's not from a movie, it's a pic of Punisher in Daredevil Season 2.

Luke Cage Season 1 comes out Sep 30th.