Bomber-Bob

It will definitely increase the value. You have an ultra rare variant. I would list it on E-Bay with a starting bid of 2K .

The mistake here is that the book should never have been removed from the original 9.2 slab. When something like this happens, it behooves you to send it to CGC in the original slab and let them address it. This happens when the cover 'sticks' to the inner well while the insides are free to move.

Good news ! With my OCD, I would be on my way there now to get them for fear they may close up.

There's an active thread with this same discussion going on right now. IMO, the short answer to your question is NO. Is it necessary to get my CGC book reholdered every 10 (or 7, or 12, etc.) years? No. The CGC holder is designed for long-term preservation and provides superior protection for your books. A properly handled and stored CGC-certified book can last for generations. The CGC holder is made from high-quality materials and is entirely archival-safe. The inner well that holds books, for example, is comprised of PETG, a plastic that is well known to be archival-safe and extremely clear. This PETG well is placed inside of a durable outer case that is sonically welded to ensure a secure, tamper-evident seal. Many comic books, particularly vintage ones, naturally release ("off gas") acidic molecules over time. The CGC holder is therefore designed to not have an air-tight seal, which would otherwise trap these acidic molecules. For added long-term preservation, CGC inserts MicroChamber® paper into vintage books prior to encapsulation. This MicroChamber paper helps to neutralize the natural acidity of some books by using a specialized, proprietary “zeolite” that was designed to absorb and hold the molecules known to damage archival collections. That is why MicroChamber paper is used by many of the world’s most respected museums and institutions, including the Smithsonian Institution, the Getty Conservation Institute, the Louvre, the British Museum and the Northeast Document Conservation Center. When CGC was first established in 2000, we thoroughly researched and implemented the best practices in archival preservation. We took a conservative approach and suggested that customers may wish to consider reholdering their books after approximately seven to ten years so that the MicroChamber paper could be replaced. Today, however, we have the benefit of having graded 4.1 million books over a 17-year period. This is an incredibly large sample size that represents books of all eras, paper types, paper qualities, storage conditions and grades. CGC and its customers now have ample evidence that demonstrates it is not necessary to have your CGC books reholdered simply to replace the MicroChamber paper. CGC’s archival-safe holder, with its combination of features that includes air permeability, MicroChamber paper and a secure, sonic seal, has been shown to provide superior long-term protection for the millions of books that have been encapsulated by CGC. We have never seen a properly stored CGC-certified comic book that needed to be reholdered for archival reasons. Nonetheless, there are still a number of benefits to utilizing CGC’s reholder service, including the crystal-clear display, enhanced aesthetic and durable construction of CGC’s new holder. It is important to remember that proper storage is essential to preserving your books, and collectors should take steps to minimize exposure to heat, humidity, vibration and light. CGC recommends that CGC-certified books be stored in a dark, dry, cool, temperature-controlled location. CGC's holders have withstood the test of time and over the last 17 years have been shown to provide outstanding long-term protection and preservation. No other comic book grading services can make that claim.

I think this is a very pertinent reply from one of the links above.... Is it necessary to get my CGC book reholdered every 10 (or 7, or 12, etc.) years? No. The CGC holder is designed for long-term preservation and provides superior protection for your books. A properly handled and stored CGC-certified book can last for generations. The CGC holder is made from high-quality materials and is entirely archival-safe. The inner well that holds books, for example, is comprised of PETG, a plastic that is well known to be archival-safe and extremely clear. This PETG well is placed inside of a durable outer case that is sonically welded to ensure a secure, tamper-evident seal. Many comic books, particularly vintage ones, naturally release ("off gas") acidic molecules over time. The CGC holder is therefore designed to not have an air-tight seal, which would otherwise trap these acidic molecules. For added long-term preservation, CGC inserts MicroChamber® paper into vintage books prior to encapsulation. This MicroChamber paper helps to neutralize the natural acidity of some books by using a specialized, proprietary “zeolite” that was designed to absorb and hold the molecules known to damage archival collections. That is why MicroChamber paper is used by many of the world’s most respected museums and institutions, including the Smithsonian Institution, the Getty Conservation Institute, the Louvre, the British Museum and the Northeast Document Conservation Center. When CGC was first established in 2000, we thoroughly researched and implemented the best practices in archival preservation. We took a conservative approach and suggested that customers may wish to consider reholdering their books after approximately seven to ten years so that the MicroChamber paper could be replaced. Today, however, we have the benefit of having graded 4.1 million books over a 17-year period. This is an incredibly large sample size that represents books of all eras, paper types, paper qualities, storage conditions and grades. CGC and its customers now have ample evidence that demonstrates it is not necessary to have your CGC books reholdered simply to replace the MicroChamber paper. CGC’s archival-safe holder, with its combination of features that includes air permeability, MicroChamber paper and a secure, sonic seal, has been shown to provide superior long-term protection for the millions of books that have been encapsulated by CGC. We have never seen a properly stored CGC-certified comic book that needed to be reholdered for archival reasons. Nonetheless, there are still a number of benefits to utilizing CGC’s reholder service, including the crystal-clear display, enhanced aesthetic and durable construction of CGC’s new holder. It is important to remember that proper storage is essential to preserving your books, and collectors should take steps to minimize exposure to heat, humidity, vibration and light. CGC recommends that CGC-certified books be stored in a dark, dry, cool, temperature-controlled location. CGC's holders have withstood the test of time and over the last 17 years have been shown to provide outstanding long-term protection and preservation. No other comic book grading services can make that claim.

Sorry, no. I'm not good at researching, too lazy. I think the new Boards are more difficult to find old threads. Maybe someone else here has a link ? Nobody had any hard science, just opinions. Nobody argued with the fact that environment plays a role whether in a slab or raw.

I've never done this but two weeks sounds reasonable, especially during convention season. They have to ship the books back to Sarasota. The next week they were on the road again in Chicago, with onsite grading. I believe there was another concurrent con in Texas so most of the staff was probably Out of Office for the whole week.

We already told him the same thing in another thread. I just don't think a clean/press will overcome all the problems with this book. Besides the large stain bottom right, Front to Back Cover, I think I also see a stain on the top left of the front cover with a dark spot permeating to the back cover. While looking at the back cover, the left edge looks like it caught on something and has some tears/chips with a dangling 'chad'. Lots of small spine ticks also. I originally thought mid grade but the more I look at it, I'm thinking 5.0 territory.

They would only regrade if the slab is compromised or damaged.

Nice book but that is a large stain that obviously permeates the whole book, cover to cover. I don't think a dry cleaning will help, other than the stain it looks pretty clean. A press may help but it will be difficult to overcome the affect on grade from that stain. I think you are looking at a mid grade result here.

I'm not in the mood to go digging but this has been discussed many times, here on the Boards, over the years including recently. I think the conclusion was, as long as the slabs are stored in the proper environment, it's all good. The Bedrock report is something I never heard of before and very interesting. I have personally opened up many,probably 100 or more, some original old labels and have never noticed any problems except for the quality of grading. I focus especially on the page quality, which seems fine. Also, the mc paper always seems good with maybe the slightest of yellowing. I believe Joey recommended storing the books on their sides, spine down due to the long term effects of gravity on the spine, not a problem with the slab, per se. Personally, if I don't like the look of the book in a slab stored vertically, I will either lay them flat or store them sideways, spine down. CGC uses wedges a lot more now and I think this helps keep the book firmly in place.

Pretty rough, sorry. 4.5 .

First off, thanks for the kind words, appreciated. I think the discount on the 'stack' mentality comes from my old school collecting experiences. Many years ago, the general rule of thumb for many dealers was the price was firm, except on the stack. You will sometimes see Board sellers state the same. I agree with you, if the wiggle room is there, a discount on just one book is appropriate and appreciated.

I've come to take this same tactic. I figure I am going to the con to buy some books and rely more on the comfort factor and don't look any any price guides. I do expect a small discount on the stack though, just for the principle. The discount also adds to the feeling comfortable factor.

You need to gain a little more expertise to see if the book can use a press. Just sending everything to be pressed first will be a gigantic waste of time and money. Revat's suggestion to prescreen is a more practical approach, especially if you are unsure about your ability to spot pressable flaws.

CGC will not authenticate a signature they did not witness. You will probably get a Green, Qualified label.

Wow, scary stuff. Glad you caught this in time. When the thief changed your password and the language, did you get an E-Mail alert ? Any clue as to how this may have happened ?

Spawn 1 is one of those books that, for valuation, you really need a 9.8 . It's worth a try to submit in a larger group for a prescreen but not on it's own.

5.0

The white crease directly on the vertex of the spine is a problem that makes it somewhat difficult to get a 9.8 with Spawn #1. I guess CGC does not consider it bindery as it's happens from opening the book. I took a look at my copy in 9.8 and, though there is some white showing, it is not as bad as your example. I don't think this will grade a 9.8. I would also think a press would not help, maybe even make it worse.

I think the main reason is it's not worth it. The Valiant books from the 90's are not that much in demand. Harbinger 1, Solar 10 (all Black Cover), and a few others are the exception.

It's not the registry you want to see, it's the census and EVERYONE has free access to it. 3 in 9.9 .

Not sure how we can help you ? I think it's obvious you should call CGC. They made an error, they will fix it.

Isn't it tree-fiddy ? And yes, appropriate here.

Just another example of a first time poster asking something ridiculous. I agree, I don't understand the point of the post and I don't really think he asked a question, just that he needed assistance. What are we, the comic police ? Crazy.