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It's going to be Peter Parker.

 

Or Doc Ock since he's still trapped in Peter Parker's butler robot

That's a good guess, too. The solicitation for ASM 18 involves the resolution of the Ock storyline.

Interestingly, there's no ASM solicited for October (Marvel Now).

It's going to be Peter Parker.

We take it way too damn serious.

Tons of people clearly enjoy X-men for a prolonged period of time.

 

I personally enjoyed the Siege Perilous story. I know people disliked it. But I loved the Fall of the Mutants, Inferno, etc.

 

Patrick

I'd still characterize most of the XMen run into the early/mid 200s as above average. It's just that the sheer brilliance of the last two Byrne/Claremont years makes for a very harsh measuring stick.

I did love Paul Smith's stuff. Makes me cry that he only lasted 11 issues.

When I went back and read the classic Byrne 129-143 and then the Brood saga, I wondered why they couldn't come up with that kind of magic.

Byrne left, and Claremont's ADD had the run of the place.

 

I do not think that most people realize the amount of influence to the story that Byrne actually contributed.

Byrne was instrumental in shaping and directing the story lines. He took that excellence over to FF. After that, Claremont continued to come up with fantastic concepts and stories, but they became more and more disorganized, with plot threads and subplots left to dangle.

Does anyone know a timeline as to when these Canadian edition prints stopped?

Read Doug Sulipa's market reports in Overstreet. I can't recall exactly, but Marvel was around 2/82-6/86 and DC was 2/82 to 9/88 or so.

When I went back and read the classic Byrne 129-143 and then the Brood saga, I wondered why they couldn't come up with that kind of magic.

Byrne left, and Claremont's ADD had the run of the place.

My prediction:

 

New Superman #1 is going to come in with gargantuan run numbers.

No short term spec here.

 

I'm seeing mountains of this book.

 

And I have a bunch

 

This book is going to have a monster print run.

Hope you're dead wrong about spec though...

 

Character is created for Chinese market.

If it catches on: BOOM!

 

I bought in.

 

I hope I am wrong too, but seeing Star Wars #1 like quantities, maybe just some smart stores, we shall see

 

Hilarious.

No. Not a good comparison.

You just lost your credibility with that one....

No, he didn't. He's just offering an opinion, based on what he's seeing in the stores around him.

Wait, are you suggesting New Super-Man #1 will do numbers in the range of Star Wars #1 which was close to 1 million!?!?! If you are than that would out pace Batman #1 280,000 and Batman Rebirth #1 199,000 released last month by a COMBINED 2.5 times total print run. Don't see anywhere near Star Wars. Hell, Black Panther which was certainly a high spec book came in at 253,000 . You probably just have a few stores that ordered heavier than normal. Not seeing many here in south Florida. Nothing more than Batman #1 in comparison.

Star Wars was Loot Crate and store exclusive skewed.

I'm thinking like you; that 250K would be heavy numbers for this book.

I never realized how much of a badass bullseye was

 

I remember realizing the run was going to be something different when I found myself reading a story where Bullseye (suffering from a brain tumor), sees every single person in the street as Daredevil, and goes on a killing spree. If I recall that was pretty early in the run, so it sort of set the stage for the darkness to come.

Issue 169; Miller was finding his voice after being freed from co-plotting with Roger McKenzie.

I tend to like comic book artists who understand that comic art is about storytelling and is a sequential art form, and is not solely dependent on the ability to draw neat looking pictures.

Thirty some years later, these pages are still burned into my brain.

 

+1

This was the first Miller DD I'd bought. It was like nothing I'd ever seen before.

This market is not same for 1st appearances that it used to be.

 

A few years ago I would have agree whole heartedly now its on a case by case basis.

Agree.

So why does it matter? Does anyone read the comics?

 

Yes. But not you?

 

Yes, I've read this series. That is why I'm questioning why there is more than a $4-5 value associated with these specific issues. There is nothing overly significant.

It's a great series, but today that rarely equates to monetary value.

Occasionally.

American Alien saw a spike due to readership demand.

Once it happens, though, the spec machine starts rolling, and the LCS bushes are beaten relentlessly for copies to free up on eBay. This usually quells some of the demand.

New 52 got off to a roaring start, and then faded quickly.

The Judas Contract is a classic Wolfman/Perez story. Terra is one messed up chick.

 

The more I read that the more I think its might be the classic 80s story from DC. I used to think the Darkness Saga was better, but the knife in the back from this story is just better.

 

My brother and I were dying for the next issue when it was out. We were both X-men fans, but man Wolfman and Perez could tell a story.

I just about fell out my chair reading the epilogue in NTT 34.

Don't know what to think about this one. Are they all going to get released and burn early sales figures?

 

Batman Rebirth #1 Hastings Variant

Is Hastings still getting new books in? Is it still business as usual?

Not an argument I'm too invested in, so we'll leave it there.

My only key point is that once the hype machine rolls for a given book, usually that's the book.

Maybe cameo/full IS a dead issue.

IIM 7 is a first appearance. The market doesn't care about the extent of the appearance with modern books. Content doesn't matter anymore. In the past a reader might value a later appearance of a character over a one panel teaser in a previous issue but that doesn't apply these days. A person with a genuine interest in the Riri Williams character might personally value issue 9 or 10 more than issue 7 because those issues flesh out the character a bit, but that person is in the buying minority. Those issues have no incentive variants. They have no reprints with lower print numbers.

I'm not sure the bolded is completely true, though some sports card mentality has begun to permeate the hobby. What I do agree with is the comment a couple of pages back, that stated that once the hype train has left the station for a certain book, it's pretty tough to go backwards.

 

Right now, that certain book is 7.

 

Then give a modern example of a non-first appearance that outsells the first appearance where the two books do not have a significant gap in print runs.

 

The Walking Dead 132 and 138. Alpha is seen inside the book on #132 and on the cover of #138. It has been an seesaw battle as to which book is "the" book depending on the day. BigClutch stated that #132 was the issue. There isn't someone who would be a bigger authority on the subject short of Kirkman. Still, the books bring about the same $, day in, day out.

There's a few gray areas. Kamala Khan. Superboy will be a fun one. Godspeed may as well.

IIM 7 is a first appearance. The market doesn't care about the extent of the appearance with modern books. Content doesn't matter anymore. In the past a reader might value a later appearance of a character over a one panel teaser in a previous issue but that doesn't apply these days. A person with a genuine interest in the Riri Williams character might personally value issue 9 or 10 more than issue 7 because those issues flesh out the character a bit, but that person is in the buying minority. Those issues have no incentive variants. They have no reprints with lower print numbers.

I'm not sure the bolded is completely true, though some sports card mentality has begun to permeate the hobby. What I do agree with is the comment a couple of pages back, that stated that once the hype train has left the station for a certain book, it's pretty tough to go backwards.

Right now, that certain book is 7.

Nobody cares about Superboy

It's a point worth considering. The Superman stable of characters has not been market significant for a long time.

 

We'll see how this goes after a year of 'the next hot idea' chasing.

 

I think this is one of the main reasons behind 'Rebirth'....inject some life into some dying DC properties. I think Super Sons will do very well.

I'm quite interested. Could be a really good read.

I'm always careful not to extrapolate what I think to the overall market, though. My personal views have landed me some unneeded stacks of books in the past.

Nobody cares about Superboy

It's a point worth considering. The Superman stable of characters has not been market significant for a long time.

We'll see how this goes after a year of 'the next hot idea' chasing.

Yep. Larry referred to it as the grocery store rack for a new generation.

 

People start by reading it on digital. They move on to wanting physical copies once they see it as something they want to collect.

People like to collect things. To different levels, it seems like most people have an inherent psychological drive to accumulate.

Jays just beat the Orioles in a nail biter, better than any movie

 

I am just driving home from that Jays game and have a few new grey hairs.

 

Nailbiter is a cool comic; but not sure what 'jays game is or Orioles', something from black mask?

Jays and Orioles both show up 162 times a year; that's about a century worth of production from Black Mask.

But he already pegged two for 9.9. Maybe CGC got it wrong?

 

BTW, are there any pressers that will guarantee a 9.9? Maybe that's where he went wrong?

 

nothing is guaranteed with pressing

Apparently, nothing is guaranteed with sarcasm detection, either.

On a different note, if you could press your 9.8 to a 9.9, I guarantee I'll give you $100.

Horse poo.

 

I don't know what book you're referring to WRT the 9.9 comment but nonetheless, I am able to grade a raw copper book at a 9.9.I am confident in my ability to discern the subtle difference(s) between a 9.8 and a 9.9, just as a seasoned collector should be able to.

 

I have 4 ridiculously sharp copies of Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme # 1 that I plan on submitting to CGC.It's been about a month since I looked at them but IIRC, I think I pegged 2 copies as clocking in at 9.8 and 2 copies at 9.9....after they were to be pressed.

 

All 4 copies have a defect that keeps them from hitting 9.8 or higher; about a one inch square of writing indentations.I am going to press these books out before sending them in and hell, I'd wager an easy $100 that 2 of the 4 come back as 9.9.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whatever happened with this?

How many Benjamins were you on the hook for?

Why cant I find any copies of flash #138 vol2 anywhere??

 

Seriously ebay has no copies?

 

1st app. Black Flash.......

 

Copies have been snatched up all year. Gotta be fast.

 

strong first appearance

 

 

Cameo

Hulk 180. Let the arguing commence.