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Archon_Turtle
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Ok so I know Danny and I announced the transition of his Turtlemania Gold book to me quite some time ago... The deal had been ongoing for the better part of a year. However; i am pleased to say that today it is official. I now have the book in hand.
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I was hoping it would never sell. The seller knew it was a fake, as a few of us have contacted him.
But one could assume the seller originally purchased this book thinking it was authentic, and just looking to pass off his mistake to another to make.
The funny thing is that there is a strong enough market for counterfeits that the guy probably could have flipped the book a LOOOONG time ago at a decent price had he just been honest.
Like when I purchased my counterfeit Gobbledygook 1 and 2. The guy was up front and honest with what they were, and I paid him well for them. No fuss!
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Looks like someone paid $1,650 for the counterfeit that was on ebay.
Somehow the seller went down from the $3,000+ price tag he used to have.
What do you guys think?
-Pete
i dunno, I tend to want to call wildly_fanciful_statement on this. I want to believe that someone willing to pay that much for the book would know enough to atleast call its authenticity into question.
I'm thinking either someone is running a scam on someone here, or the bidder KNOWS its a fake and was willing to pay that price for it.
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I should stop listening to my less knowledgeable buddies and stick here.
Truth.
My latest acquisition
Neat!
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Did you happen to see that pizza box he did a group shot on and sold on Ebay? It was amazing!
Incidently, he turned that piece into a print. So if you love it that much, you may be able to find it.
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Merry Christmas Turtle friends! That is all :-)
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Although to be fair, some of the premium might be due to the fact that it is from Mirage directly. It's weird how people get "star struck" on ebay when an item is being sold by the creator.
Incidently, I paid $250 for mine raw earlier this year. Came back an 8.0
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Which is kind of a silly assumption to make, since in all of their auctions they TELL YOU that their books are all "VF"
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By the way, for those of you who are interested in other Pre-Mirage work of Kevin and Peter's, you can check out pics and info of my Pre-Mirage Collection by visiting the following links:
http://gogreenmachine.org/?p=3653
http://gogreenmachine.org/?p=2700
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Very possible. The one I saw was the only one on the census.
There's two Counterfeit #2 in the census:
But there's a really small chance it could be the same one - if it was opened, reslabbed etc etc
Anyhow, I want one REALLY BAD, since I have a counterfeit #1, I want to finish my collection : )
If anyone has one, or knows anything, let me know!
-Pete
yeah. Otherwise it's an interesting coinkydink that theyre both 9.4s
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Very possible. The one I saw was the only one on the census.
Curiouser and Curiouser...
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It belongs to Motor City Comics, formerly of the Brian Tatge (sp?) collection. It's the only one I've ever seen and I held it next to an authentic copy to spot the difference. The biggest discernible difference is in the fine black hatching on the mouser. It's much finer on the authentic copy and a little blurred on the counterfeit. As it was slabbed, I can't attest to any interior differences.
So as far as we know it could be a one off?
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There is a counterfeit #2. A slabbed copy was posted a couple months back in a thread. I think it went to SDCC, but is not for sale
Basically the printing was terrible and looked pretty blurred.
I stand (or rather sit) corrected. Nuts!
Anyone have pictures? Now I want one!
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I NEED HELP.
How do I tell the difference between a counterfeit and real #2 1st print?
I searched through this thread but couldn't find it.
I'm not aware of a counterfeiting of #2...anyone?
Not sure why you'd counterfeit that book to be honest.
Perhaps you couldn't find information on it because there isn't one?
Michael told me he'd likely be making a print of this for a show in 2011. I'm hoping it's a show I'm attending.
Normally you can buy his prints directly from him if you can't make the show:
http://dooneygirls.blogspot.com/
You might also notice he blogged about your piece. Grats dude :-)
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Happy to help gang :-)
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any idea if those Eastman & Laird illustrations were reprinted elsewhere?
I know of atleast 1 part of Gobbledygook #1 that saw previous print. The "Champ" story (the final story in Gobbledygook #1 by Kevin and his Uncle) was printed in Comix Wave 13 (Published a year before Gobbledygook #1). Comix Wave was Kevin's first publisher, and was an underground magazine. Here are comparison shots of my copies of both books. Comix Wave 13 is always on the left:
Also, a few of the images in Gobbledygook #1 were reprinted in "Gallery" sections of it's 1986 counterpart:
A few pages of Gobbledygook #2 also found their way into the 1986 Gobbledygook (for these comparison shots, I am using my counterfeit copy of GG2. My original is current framed with the cover art):
Incidently, one of the gallery pictures in the 1986 Gobbledygook was not printed in the first "Gooks" but DID see previous print....WAAAAY previous print:
This is a copy of the May 1979 issue of Scat Magazine. An underground zine that only circulated locally in Northampton. Legend has it Kevin's discovery of Scat on a bus is actually what prompted Kevin to meet Peter.
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Archon_Turtle,
I am thinking it would be a good idea to put a FAQ in the first post. Can include print run, average sale prices, why its collectable, etc. Thoughts?
Sure, I'll work on something :-)
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Archon_Turtle,
That's quite the impressive collection man! You should try to win that OA for the #1 going up to auction and complete the set...assuming you think its real.
It isn't that I don't believe it is real...it's that I question the circustance under which it was acquired.
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50 is indeed correct. As a point of interest, The Turtlemania Specials list Gobbledygook 1 and 2 has having a print run of 150 each. This is however, incorrect. This has been confirmed many times by Kevin.
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Well I know for sure theres atleast one more #1 owned by a board member that isn't here yet (I sold it it him). But who knows, maybe some people will come out of the woodwork! If not now, then at least this will hopefully pop up on google or something when they go looking for answers about the book :-)
Edit: Oh, and Danny's set.
I believe the owner of MikeysTMNT.com owns a set that was won through the 25th anniversary contest...and in going through my msg archive here, one other member contacted me about a set he purchased. He showed me pics. But I'm not going to post pics of someone else's books.
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So here are my copies of Gobbledygook #1 and #2. If you click on either cover, it will take you to a gallery for the book.
These books were gifted to me by Kevin Eastman after we had made a deal for some pages of art. At the time, I was involved in the creation of a TMNT documentary which was in-part being filmed at Kevin's home; so we decided to make the exchange for the art there. Weeks prior I had inquired if he had any more copies of the books and he told me he would check. I dismissed it after that.
When Kevin showed up to the shoot, he had th art in hand...and an extra envelope. When I asked what it was he winked at me. Of course upon opening the envelop my breath was taken away.
Here Kevin is signing them :
He drew up this sign when I mentioned that nobody is going to believe this happened ;-)
Something unique to note about my #1 is that it is an error copy. There are a number of pages that appear twice (these pages are Alpha-Numerically noted in the gallery). So far this seems to be the only known book to contain this error, and I am on the hunt for it's possible sister. So if you have a copy that is missing the pages I have doubles of, please let me know!
It's also worth mentioning that Kevin gifted me the cover art for Gobbledygook #2 after doing me the honor of being my Best Man in October of this year.
The art with the book, framed:
Myself, Kevin, and my childhood friend Elliott waiting at the altar for my bride :-)
Lastly, here are links to my Yellow Cover counterfeits:
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Howdy howdy!
I've been wanting to start a Gobbledygook #1 and/or #2 Club thread for quite some time! This thread is for owners to display and discuss their copies of the books.
Personally, I'm most excited about this thread as a way to see how many of the books we can actually account for.
This will also be a great thread for people to come to if they have questions about copies they may have, as they are very easily reproduced, and thew best people to verify authenticity on this particular books, are those that already own them.
Also, Just to be clear, when we say Gobbledygook #1, we mean this book:
NOT this book:
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so make with the pics!
I've been thinking about starting a Gobbledygook #1 and or #2 Club thread. What do you guys think? Im actually really interested in how many copies we can account for.
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Thanks to Danny I received in the mail today my very own set of Gobbledygooks
Straight from the collection of Kevin Eastman, signed by both him and Peter Laid, along with turtle sketches by both. Additionally, the set is complete with a signed letter of authenticity from Eastman.
I am ecstatic to have not only a super rare set of Gobbledygooks, the only set that where both file copies and Signed/Sketched by both Eastman and Laid.
THANK YOU DANNY!
Yay! Welcome to the Club!
Danny, this wasn't your last set was it?
And nice to know they are signed by Peter...Laid?
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I can't really speak for Danny on that topic, but I'm sure he will see this soon enough.