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Well, we are not getting anywhere here. You are welcome to your opinion. There was clearly a deal and there was NO misunderstanding of costs when he said he would take it. There was no misunderstanding of any kind. Xela changed his mind and handled it very poorly and his actions since have only solidified my opinion of him. As for your speculations and recreations on what might have been said in the actual PMs, I've already laid it out pretty succinctly and clearly. If you just gotta have it word for word for your own edification I'll be glad to send you every PM if I can figure out how to do that but it is just as I first laid it out. I also don't see any benefit in speculating about what went on in a PM. If neither side posts the PM exchange, but they don't deny the other's summary, then there was an agreement that was off by $3.

The buyer was given an estimate and agreed to take it. Estimate was accurate. The contract is good.

My point is that shipping costs are the costs to move an item from point A to point B. If shipping costs are agreed upon with no mention of insurance, then insurance is on the seller. Insurance is always at the sellers risk/repsonsibility unless specifically agreed upon otherwise. A deal can not be struck, then followed up with a "Oh and insurance adds another $10 to your bill".

Only issue is, insurance is seller's responsibility, not buyer's, unless specifically agreed

I have always assumed that scans were representative of the grade. If there are defects that are not visible in the scan they should be mentioned.

I was afraid of that with this quote: "The comic was bought and sold in complete good faith." and "I intend to everything I can to maintain the integrity of my transaction with the Buyer of #57"

It sounds like you might have done a lot of business with this "stellar" seller. I HIGHLY recommend that you pull any other books bought from this person and have someone with a good eye for restoration look at them before selling them. I seriously doubt any seller "who does a lot of business on ebay and moves a lot of Silver and Bronze books" misses the restoration on that book.

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This might be a good opportunity to point out that we as a community should not assume that everyone selling on the boards possesses adequate restoration detection skills. In my limited sampling, I have found more undisclosed restoration on board purchases, than I have on ebay purchases. While I don't think possession of such skills should be a requirement of selling on the boards, I would be extremely annoyed if the seller did not address it succinctly and timely, once it was brought to his attention. "The seller says this "outside of being aware of a general process called "Comics Restoration," the in's and out's of restoring comics, right down to terms like trimming and color touch, were foreign concepts to me until the Discussion post-AVENGERS #57." There was certainly a time none of us knew what it was. When I first sold a book on eBay I had no idea about page counts. I was just doing a friend a favor. But when someone told me I had missed a centerfold, I apologized, refunded and started learning about page counts. So he knew the term before. Now that he knows there was a problem, he should just refund and start learning.Simple, and no need for a zillion words. At this point, I will pretty much discount everything the seller says. There was no logical reason for all the obfuscation, so it leads me to one of two conclusions, neither of which are good for the seller.

This might be a good opportunity to point out that we as a community should not assume that everyone selling on the boards possesses adequate restoration detection skills. In my limited sampling, I have found more undisclosed restoration on board purchases, than I have on ebay purchases. While I don't think possession of such skills should be a requirement of selling on the boards, I would be extremely annoyed if the seller did not address it succinctly and timely, once it was brought to his attention.

As was mentioned in another thread, when you made the same suggestion, it is a bad idea to use a non-buffered board such as the BCW (or any other coated board for that matter) with an alkaline buffered throughout board such as the Gerber fullback boards. You are paying for the archival quality of the buffered board, then reducing it's effectiveness, by adding in an additional acidic load from the BCW board. The point of using the buffered Fullback boards is that you do not have to change them nearly as much (if at all for moderns) as traditional comic boards. BCW recommends changing their boards every 2-3 years. Even though the BCW boards are labeled acid free, the only part that is truly acid free by the time you get them is the coating. The only alkaline buffered throughout boards sold regularly into the comic market are from Gerber and Bill Cole.

I find this odd also. When someone is selling thousands of copies to hundreds of individuals, usually the person communicating is not the person who is packing, and if they are, god help them, as there will be no way they are going to get them out in a timely fashion and pay attention to anything anyone has emailed them anyway. It is most effectively done in assembly line fashion and you are just going to get the books on the top of the stack when your packing slip/label is next. Thus, even more reason for Larry to cull anyone with what he feels are overly high expectations.

I am sure you meant nothing by it, when you mentioned it. But from many seller's perspective the statement is a red flag. Clearly Larry is one of those sellers. Now take the assumed increase in risk and multiply that by the increase in cost of shipping to you internationally and you can understand his reaction. (just not the delayed implementation)

It does not hurt to ask, before accepting the seller's offer. However, this is happening more and more often, after the purchase. Point in case, I doubt he guarranteed that in the thousands of books he would be selling, there would be "no visible flaws". It is no different than buyers who ask for special packaging, after they pay. I don't get a lot of those, since I am mostly selling supplies, but I do get a few and can only imagine how many requests, collectible sellers get. It is unreasonable to add terms to a purchase, after the fact. Even if you, as a buyer feel that it is a "request" and non-binding. By stating your expecation, you are reinforcing the idea in your own mind, that it will be heeded. And, many other buyers with the same statement, won't look at it as a "request" at all.

There appears to be 1/4" missing on the right edge of the GL76 along with 1/8" off the top and bottom. I understand buyer beware with that since it is raw, but how does all 3 edges trimmed and amatuer color touch qualify for "Slight" restoration on the graded (albeit from another company) X-men #1?

There is no problem with buying for resale. Advertising in someone else's sales thread, is another story Probably no bad intent, just a major case of foot in mouth

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You've gotta be talking about the GSX 1. If that books been pressed, it was done so very poorly, regardless of who did it. My first post assumed the press job looks great. If the press job looks crappy, questioning who performed the press in the thread is threadkrapping. (the above should not be taken as indicative of my opinion of the quality of work done to any books currently being sold) At the end of the day, if the seller openly states that the book has been pressed, he/she should be expected to answer a question as to who did the press job. If it's raw, then questions should be answered in the thread (not threadkrapping IMO). What exactly is the purpose for asking "Who did such a crappy press job on your book" in the thread; or even "who did the press" when it is clearly poor work?

You've gotta be talking about the GSX 1. If that books been pressed, it was done so very poorly, regardless of who did it. My first post assumed the press job looks great. If the press job looks crappy, questioning who performed the press in the thread is threadkrapping. (the above should not be taken as indicative of my opinion of the quality of work done to any books currently being sold)

This would definitely be a PM conversation. Seller can then decide whether or not to add it to the thread.

My initial thought to this was; it should be a PM question. However, upon reflection, a PM response has little value if the seller is a relative unknown, touting a highly regarded presser. Conversely, the information is more valuable to the PMer when the seller states he "did it in his shed".

I hate the velcro dots I had some where the adhesive was not strong enough and they either stuck to each other when opening, fell off or shifted slightly, leaving adhesive behind. Additionally they take up a lot of space due to the height of the hook and loop fasteners. You can probably fit 120 books with tape or post-it tab fasteners in the same space as 100 books with velcro.

You would be great on a bomb squad!

The case is sonically welded together - not just snapped together. I know the inner wells are sonic sealed. The tracks on the outer edges/seams of the Barex sheets are the tell and is present for grip during the sonic sealing process. The outer case however, due to the hard plastic, materials used, and design, which relies on a seated 4-post system, would more likely be bonded through heat adhesion and pressure, but I'm not sure if sonic sealing is necessary or even involved. This is also how I assumed it worked, with only the inner wells sonically sealed

Why do you assume Roy knew there were copies which sold for less? He did not say it. He was replying to Roy's example