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G.A.tor

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  1. Eye appeal has been the number one factor for me and many since the beginning of collecting. Doubt anyone is arguing against that. That typically is a major component that drives price ( though if that 5.0 copy had brittle as the page quality designation I do believe it would've sold for less, so even then you cannot say definitively that the price was entirely based on Eye appeal, but i believe that absolutely was the driving force in that copy's realized price ...as most would agree). The ONLY point I make (that seems to be lost or ignored) is that "if" you had two books with similar/comparable Eye appeal and structure (so we've eliminated all those differentials from the equation), side by side for sale/auction, AND available at the SAME time, in the SAME venue/sales environment, THEN the differential would be the page quality , AND I "posit" that the majority of folks would be (actually already are and do) willing to pay a premium (however slight) for the better preserved copy (typically designated by pq on a cgc label) BUT... ...The books do not even have to be Graded by cgc...they can be raw and subject to the buyers physical inspection ( to even the average collector it's fairly easy to differentiate varying page quality by sight and feel , especially when you have two samples side-by-side ... and it's relatively easy to show the novice collector the differences with an actual inspection ) That is why I say GPA data is not really relevant to my discussion relating to gold/silver sales, because so few of these examples actually exist outside of the more modern era comics ( Bronze Age or newer...then the data generally does support pq differential because many 9.6/9,8 do have the same/similar eye appeal) How anyone can believe otherwise defies my experience, but if you still don't acknowledge, well...what can I say
  2. Probably could've gotten it for 7500 but just wasn't feeling it. 5K I might've bitten but it was only a VG
  3. I saw a nice action 7 , unrestored vg at 10k but passed
  4. I like pro teams with gators on them
  5. Bmoretoys just sold a 4.5 close to his 24800 asking
  6. I think atlas books will experience a demand bump
  7. Funny Pages 3/4 still takes a few more months before the Arrow gets prime billing.
  8. I'm sure that 6&7 came from almost wonderful person
  9. I walk it before the con opens. The sheer mass of bodies makes it a logistical nightmare to traverse any other time
  10. I'm done with the discussion. You again, miss the point entirely of what I'm saying. I would clarify again, but clearly you can't see pass your bias to actually understand what I'm saying. Done.
  11. The majority of time gpa is not applicable (either way) because it's relatively infrequently occurring that books of the same grade with differing pq are auctioned or sold at same time in same venue for a comparison to be drawn books sold even a week apart via a different venues, don't meet requirements to compare results (market doesn't stand still, it's constantly moving) a true test for someone (and I'm making assumptions you've haven't , so correct me if I'm wrong ) is to actually offer comparable copies with different pq at same time, at same venue, at differing pricing... this I and many dealers have done , generally at conventions , and 100% of the time the higher pq , at higher price has sold first. That tangible evidence, coupled with experience in actually selling over an extended period of time, is all I need to know until evidence to the contrary is presented and reinforced
  12. From my perspective, setting up at 100s of shows over past decade, and talking to thousands of collectors (surely a sample large enough to establish a "market" outside the cgc boards) , I can tell you with 100% certainly pq matters to the majority of collectors, and is a differential in purchasing decisions. Whether you acknowledge or not, is not relevant , and I can respect your opinion but my perspective is not an opinion solely formed by me, it is based on years and years of actually buying and selling and talking to a myriad of collectors from all ober the world (not just cgc boards or gpa results which are not applicable to the conversation in support of either position )
  13. Of course. And that is why we have to treat outlier sales as just that...
  14. The real issue with some of these auctions is the lack of transparency That's just it we don't know who is bidding , new or old , we don't know what the under bidders intentions are if any etc. etc. So results like these have to be treated as outliers until the market further supports this price levels across many different venues
  15. Not everyone for sure. But as presented on these boards and in the market...the majority of folks
  16. Someone had a .5 on eBay they were trying to get 7995 for at one time. Cest la vie
  17. Dean,dean...why be the voice of cyclical reasoning. Geesh. Party pooper
  18. Of course...pq is a differential when it comes to sa keys.