G.A.tor

May I ask how old you are?? I'm not that old...I hope. 27 has been biting 1's heels for years. And isn't Batman more widely considered the most popular character in the hobby today? Also, in the 90's, how many years did OSPG rank 27 as the #1 most valuable book? OS also had marvel 1 #1 for a while, but that is highly unlikely to happen again... the diff between action 1 and tec 27 is really not so much the popularity of the character (batman has been ahead of superman for 20+ years in popularity), but the importance action 1 is to our hobby...it has been awarded "king" status over and over and over again, that while I prefer tec 27, I don't see grade for grade it selling for more than a comparable action 1...not to say it cant, but what has to happen for it to...

I feel the 5 more "valuable" known books in the hobby are Mile High action 1 (raw) Allentown tec 27 (raw) 9.2 w page tec 27 (cgc) 9.0 w page action 1 (cgc) 9.0 c/ow page action 1 (cgc) the 9.8 cap 1 is pushing the top 5 for sure.... the 9.4 aa 16 wouldn't even make top 10... Good to know. Have you seen it ? not yet, but hopefully soon

really scraping the bottom of the barrel I see...

I feel the 5 more "valuable" known books in the hobby are Mile High action 1 (raw) Allentown tec 27 (raw) 9.2 w page tec 27 (cgc) 9.0 w page action 1 (cgc) 9.0 c/ow page action 1 (cgc) the 9.8 cap 1 is pushing the top 5 for sure.... the 9.4 aa 16 wouldn't even make top 10...

Last year I privately sold a nice cgc 7.5 copy to a fellow boardie and friend

it is funny how this goes...I offered a pretty nice looking 4.5 restored copy here on the boards last month for $8995....some interest, but no takers...I closed the thread ... after recent results, I now have folks wanting to buy at that 'former" price , which was clearly outdated and recently adjusted to more accurately reflect th current market...

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Yes. Been mentioned to death

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Tell that to Alabama, who has more National Championships in the last 80 years than any school in the country. . One school does not a conference make (though the SEC certainly loves to ride Bama's coattails). Guess we all bow down to the Ivy League and Yale's 17 NCs (and 39 total for the Yale-Harvard-Princeton Triumvirate). PS - Alabama also schedules road games against OOC foes. What's Florida's excuse? FSU has played the Citadel as many times as Fl has in the past decade it's all about the $...

posted some amazing mystery funnies too...

ok, no idea how to make link, but I Iphone video'd my amazing man run...

so what you saying is we play it tough

last year the SEC was down a little bit, but one year does not make a conference... compare the last 10 years and I think the story is a little brighter for the SEC

I don't recall seeing them mentioned in pre-season polls. Looking grim again, eh? new coach, less than stellar recruiting...will take time... we haven't fallen as far as Tenn

I just hope we go better than 7-5 this year

well, at least now I know what to price my 5.5 at (based on heritages sale a few minutes ago)

no wonder you were wrong

You are correct, the comps do not say that. And I am not saying that either. My point is (and has always been) that there is a buyer for every book, and the next guy in line to buy your book may not (probably not) care about the "PQ" on the label, and be willing (eager) to pay the same ask (or more, depending on how many other copies are available at the convention) than the first book irrespective of the "PQ" on the label. I believe that this phenomenon is what's responsible for the erratic results on the subject that we see on GPA (but that is just my personal opinion). I'm just asking that you at least leave open the possibility that you may be needlessly under-pricing your non "white page" books. Hey if I might actually be onto something, it's a win-win since you make a little more money on them. -J. sounds like we have been debating different premises

I never said books with better pq always sell for more.... I am saying that a buyer given a choice at time of purchase, and all things/variables else being largely equal, a copy with better pages will sell first and will most likely sell for more (again, not always , but most always in my experience a premium is realized)... your data does NOT provide or prove the buyer had an alternative copy to purchase (at time the book was sold).... that was the crux of my debate.... that's why your comps don't work for this debate....imo that's all (thumbs u

Not always. There are many population-based human, animal, and plant-based research studies, also referred to as cross-sectional studies. Using large sample sizes to compare two or more groups that differ in some variable, influences of that variable may be determined. The large sample sizes eliminate any potential influences of non-controlled factors, which in the absence of any selection bias wind up being equally distributed between the groups being compared. With a large enough sample size, a population of comics of one page quality can be compared with validity to a population of another page quality. The Hulk 181 datamining is an example. If, however, the sample size is too small, as is the case with the paucity of sales data for BB28, then no valid comparison can be made. In this latter case, a well-controlled comparison is necessary, such as provided by back-to-back sales on Comiclink, E-Bay, or through a dealer such as yourself. agreed, that's why I said for "this" argument (specific to bb28).... we all know (well most all know) that pq absolutely commands, in general, a premium... it would with bb 28 too if we could get some controlled comp sales...problem is, as stated, there just aren't enough sales to establish that, so one must use logic and apply.... since it is obvious to most all that pq affects price, it is "reasonable" to assign same to bb 28, even though there is no corroborating data (either way) and with that, I will return to silence on this matter...done all I can

for this argument, comps do need to happen in a controlled environment...we are not discussing avg prices for grades (grades that encompass all variables that make up said grade) , we are discussing a specific variable that can only be "compared" in a controlled environment to truly see an effect...

Memphis state, 1989 Rutgers was 6-4 in 1986

actually, not a single data point J has listed demonstrates or supports that PQ is indifferent in the realized price when comparing like copies... I looked at the data and in not one instance was there available/sold a comparably graded copy that sold in same venue or even at same time, with differing pq , where an analysis could be drawn...in other words, there was no alternate copy that could have been purchased, so that gpa data is just a single data point independent of every other data point... for example, if a cr/ow copy of a 4.0 sold on 4/12 at $2500, and an ow/w copy of a 4.0 sold at $2400 on 4/12 in the same venue, THEN a statement could be made that PQ likely played no bearing on the price... however, as mentioned, there is not a SINGLE example J provided that demonstrates this...not one...he has listed random data points that represent single sales independent of any other comparable copy being available at a diff price with a diff pq, that a conclusion could be drawn...therefore, he has not supported his position at all, imo ... Gator, I vociferously (though respectfully) disagree with your application of sales comps. Be the conversation about comics, houses, works of art, antiques, etc, your statements go against all well-settled use of such, while simultaneously debunking your own bases for stating that there "is" a "premium". Again, just because the publicly available sales data doesn't support your own personal experiences or opinions does not make it "not credible". -J. random sales points don't support anyone's opinion... only sales done in a controlled environment can be used to make a comparison statement.....and that's what we are attempting to do right....when one "compares" like copies with diff pq's.. also keep in mind, I am generally speaking about pq on all comics, not just BB...I haven't seen any examples were like copies of BB 28 have sold with diff pq, so there is no data to support this particular book, but plenty of data to support the statement in general comps are a great place to start, and sometimes they are valid...just not in this instance... a copy selling in Feb with pq=x cannot be said to have any bearing on what a copy in march with pq=x selling for...nothing... and I'm not using any of this data to support my position because I know the data is not valid for anyone's position...only data I am using is real world examples where I have had comparable copies and the high pq has sold first and at a higher price....

actually, not a single data point J has listed demonstrates or supports that PQ is indifferent in the realized price when comparing like copies... I looked at the data and in not one instance was there available/sold a comparably graded copy that sold in same venue or even at same time, with differing pq , where an analysis could be drawn...in other words, there was no alternate copy that could have been purchased, so that gpa data is just a single data point independent of every other data point... for example, if a cr/ow copy of a 4.0 sold on 4/12 at $2500, and an ow/w copy of a 4.0 sold at $2400 on 4/12 in the same venue, THEN a statement could be made that PQ likely played no bearing on the price... however, as mentioned, there is not a SINGLE example J provided that demonstrates this...not one...he has listed random data points that represent single sales independent of any other comparable copy being available at a diff price with a diff pq, that a conclusion could be drawn...therefore, he has not supported his position at all, imo ...