Coverdeath

So all the forum is now putting the target on me because I cutted the top corner of the cover myself, what in the hell is different that if it was fall by itself or anything else...?

I think that some have me on their black list. 

How it count for the people who already replied to my thread?

@JollyComics

@vheflin

@Grendelbo

@scburdet

On 9/14/2024 at 7:46 PM, zzutak said:

The front cover photo you shared here upon purchase is shown below.

• How did the irregularly shaped missing piece at the top-right corner become triangular?
• Were you the person who cut off the outside/unbound bottom corner of the referenced interior pages?
• You appear to know that scissors or a cutting blade was used on at least three of the back cover chips.  Don't you feel that non-organic (not naturally-occurring) "work" like this should be disclosed in your very first post above?
• Are there any other "improvements" to this book that you were made aware of by the person who sold you this book or that you yourself performed? 

Board sellers are obligated to clearly and completely disclose any non-organic "work" done to any book being sold here.

This is just a non sense to me... there is just no world where i tought to have to specify how the corner of a book have disappeared, it's not like if had added some material to the book... its literally the contrary and it would be just considered as a supplementary deffect for 99% of the population... but I guess the comics book collector are made different. 

On 9/14/2024 at 7:41 PM, Semicentennial said:

This and the top right corner.

There is nothing with the bottom corner of the cover

On 9/14/2024 at 6:05 PM, Ryan. said:

Was the bottom right of the front cover trimmed?

Not again please 

I was thinking to send it to MCS, i know they are rude in grading.

So make it me feared a bit. 

But I m really a bad grader, I tought it stay nothing of my book but in definitive 1.8 would be nice.

On 9/14/2024 at 5:07 PM, zzutak said:

For what it's worth, I don't believe the edge chips on the back cover are purely "organic" (having developed as a result of rough but "normal" handling/wear).  I've never seen "naturally-occurring" chips with edges this straight.  I'm 99% certain either scissors or a cutting blade was used here. 

Obviously pal. 

On 9/14/2024 at 2:21 PM, KCOComics said:

Tape isn't resto and doesn't get a purple label. 

Trimming,  done by people of any age is trimming and gets a purple label. 

A 10 year old doodling on the cover isn't resto.  A 10 year old carefully cutting the edges to improve the appearance is trimming.  

I know your pretty new to the hobby and I'm really not trying to give you a hard time.  I like your threads and appreciate your questions. 

This is an area of the hobby where there really isn't a gray area. If you alter a book by cutting the edge, it's trimming. It will hopefully be spotted by cgc and identified as such. 

Well you just have to rip it of an inch more with your fingers and it wouldn't be restored anymore 

On 9/14/2024 at 11:56 AM, KCOComics said:

There were no added pieces. There was tape to reenforce the cover. 

Trimming would always be noticed and called out with a purple label designation if cgc graded it. 

It's pretty cut and dry. 

So you r gonna tell me the fact that a little kid cut the corners of his book because he like relief is considered as restoration? This is an absolute non sense.

For me you get the label because of the tape.

On 9/14/2024 at 11:13 AM, KCOComics said:

Here is a book I bought trimmed. You can see just that tiny little corner was trimmed. 

When I had it graded,  it came back trimmed, as I expected it would.  

It was disclosed before I bought it and actually caught by folks on the boards with eagle eyes, so everyone was up front. 

Would it be noticed if the added piece wasn't here? 

I mean I think when we talk about "trimmed book" it have to directly affect the size of the page or the cover, what is not the case here. 

But I could be wrong.

On 9/14/2024 at 11:00 AM, KCOComics said:

Trimming is the act of cutting the edges of the comic book in order to improve its appearance, which sounds like is exactly what you did here. 

In comic collecting it's very frowned upon. The general reason it's treated more harshly than color tough, is because you can't "untrim" a book. Those pieces are gone forever (though some have dabbled in techniques to "untrim" - it still forever alters the original state of the comic). 

Long story short, I wouldn't recommend doing it going forward and if you have done it with other comics or interiors you should disclose it.  

Well usually when I see it, it's a full length pach which have the edge cutted, but here is different is the corner, when I see some similar books to mine on ebay is rather listed as "missing piece" "missing corner" but not trimmed.

I pictured the cover and the book apart to see better.

The spine split is probably 1/3 of the length or even a bit more...

Corners cutted from page 9 to 18 but it's not affect panels or text so I guess it change nothing. 

On 9/13/2024 at 10:19 PM, Semicentennial said:

Thanks for disclosing the book has been trimmed.  I wasn't sure if the corner got folded over or not.  

Sorry I was not really sure of the term of "trimmed" because I often see the term used in restoration process.

On 9/14/2024 at 1:26 AM, Sigur Ros said:

I really feel bad for ya brother. I realize there is a serious language barrier and I would assume others know this too by now. I don't think you're accusing anyone of foul play and you made that quite clear. I don't know the seller, nor do I care, but if anyone claims his messages weren't confusing they're just wrong. For him to claim an item was relisted as BIN when it wasn't, only to see a number of bids on the auction once you found it, I understand was frustrating. But, it looks like he's a pretty busy guy so I'm guessing there was just some confusion on his end when he answered. Innocent and harmless in the long run. 

Pretty sure you know he wasn't trying to scam you, just poor communication.  I think maybe the approach in the opening statements in your posts could be toned down a little. I know you ran into this in the other forum too.

You've previously mentioned some struggles in your life and you're also pretty new to the comic collecting community, so maybe others just can't see past the language. Would be nice if they could.

I'm rooting for you. I hope online forums don't ruin this for ya.

The best comment here, I always appreciated the quality of your messages and your comprehensive attitude, thank you man.

On 9/13/2024 at 11:54 PM, Dr. Love said:

Hmmm

you should switch your collecting focus from coverless DC to romance

it's a real conversation starter.  People love a grown man who collects comics that teenage girls couldn't be bothered to hold onto.  Trust me.  I'll sell you your first one.

I don't want to be loved by the peoples

On 9/13/2024 at 6:12 PM, Semicentennial said:

Not the pages.  The bottom right corner on the cover.

It was torn a long time ago, I cutted it properly myself, no comment on this decision please.

On 9/13/2024 at 7:27 PM, Poutine said:

I don't understand this situation either

I don't understand your username.

Hope it's not what I tought and it's just that you r from Quebec

On 9/13/2024 at 3:36 PM, joeypost said:

It would seem to be a personal attack, but something happens organically when an individual cries wolf too many times. I would make a simple suggestion to you if you want to make friends here and enjoy the community. The suggestion is to think twice or even a third time before posting something on the boards. Brent is a good friend to many and has been a stellar seller here, at shows and on eBay for decades. If a personal attack is made on him via social media or a forum, whose side do you think people will take? 
 

Please decide what is important to make public. 

I have no friends in real life and I'm certainly not here to get some "online friends" i dont trust in this kind of relationship, I m just here to talk about a subject who make me happy. 

Again, as I said many times I was not questioning the legitimacy of this seller.

On 9/13/2024 at 2:00 PM, joeypost said:

As a seller, and even someone who provides a service, there are certain red flags that are easily identifiable. Every now and then I have been proven wrong, but most of the time when I have a feeling about a certain customer, it turns out to be true as they tend to be problematic. Over the years, it hasn’t happened many times, but there are some that I have simply asked to send their business elsewhere because in the end, it’s just not worth it.

I'm not really sure to understand what so you mean but I guess it's a personal attack on me. You have to know that I already asked many questions to this sellers on other items and we always had a good communication so there was absolutely no "signal" or something... more of that my ebay account is 100% positive!

On 9/13/2024 at 1:10 PM, Semicentennial said:

The seller has over 33,000 positive feedback ratings in the last 12 months, and only five negative ratings during the same time.  That says a lot about them as a vendor/dealer.  If you feel they treated you wrong then move on.  It's not a rare book.  If the book continues to get bids, it may be cheaper to just get a lower grade copy and then remove the cover since that's what your looking for.

Yes I knew sometimes prices are going weird with coverless... and I already passed on great Silver keys several times, these books are not so rare so I don't really understand how the prices can be on fire like they are, I'm much more focused on GA since I collect coverless, just give me the feeling to have more for my money.

I know Qualitycomix are a great comic seller and I will not avoid to buy to them a next time but I just was a bit deceived by the communication on it. 

On 9/13/2024 at 4:20 AM, Semicentennial said:

Is the book trimmed?  The bottom right corner looks different from the original picture?

Huh no? All the pages are normal but it's just the pages 9 to 18 who have their corners cutted of 1 or 2 centimenters 

And so it finally end up this way, I was faked from the beginning to the end...

we said to me it was gonna be a BIN, few hours after already 9 bid on it...

On 9/12/2024 at 3:57 PM, vheflin said:

I guess Hulk 181

The greatest question is why selling this 9k book, wasn't it already the best investment? 

@yoda12288 simple curiosity, you do not have to reply if its confidential.

What is the book you are selling?