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Another one that Matt is sending you, which one???....

It might be a Hulk #197. You know... the one with the Man-Thing cover by Wrightson.

 

oh yes yes, of course..you're all about the Man-Thing

Another one that Matt is sending you, which one???....

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Thanks Tony! (thumbs u Looking forward to your package.....

2) Hector, you should see the one Matt still has to send to me.

While language remains elastic, each term has a specific meaning.

 

Speaking in general (not only comics), in publishing, "edition" means the specific editorial and publishing form in which the book comes to be. Since the foreign editions are translated books, they not only have editing in terms of text content (from which the term derives), but they also have translation, which is almost never a mere adaptation, as you always lose something in a translation.

For these reasons, the term "reprints" is unnecessarily ambiguous, considered we have a correct term to use. "Reprint" means that it’s printed again, but an edition is another language is not effectively "printed again", but printed *for the first time* in that form and in that language.

These concepts have always been the technical ones used in publishing, and I see no reason for which one should choose arbitrarily (and occasionally deceptive) chosen words instead of the descriptive ones, which are also already there.

 

They are but also these are italian versions?

 

These are italian first editions, but the german ones you showed are different.

The italian books were structured this way: they used the story from a main title (i.e. Spider-Man) which also gave the name to the italian title, and then featured backup stories from another character, taken from additional US titles.

While I think these recent german adaptations try to mimic the original US book also in its editorial form, and thus they should be slim books with a single story featured (and are not, in general, the first edition in german of that title).

This has essentially been my view since I started collecting foreign books.

So... I got this UPS package today. These were inside.

Since the last couple Susy romance books I posted seemed to be appreciated I figured I'd post these as well.

Oh yeah... there was one more book in that package. This one's kind of a big deal. At least to me.

Hi, I live in the Philippines and want to show my copy of Superman #249. This one is a National Bookstore reprint.

 

 

I actually bought this copy accidentally since I thought it was an original. There was a store here in the Phillipines which closed a few years ago selling these reprints. I think they had a reprint also of the 1st appearance of Bullseye (Daredevil 131) in their long boxes.

If you have any you want to sell let me know. I'm pretty much always in the market for them. (thumbs u

 

Im curious about something Mark? If you had known it was a National Bookstore what would you have done? Would you have still bought it?

 

Also, do you think it is possible the original owner of the store could still be around with back stock? Thanks a million! (thumbs u

 

Sorry for the very late reply. Was busy last couple of days.

 

To answer your first question, I would have not bought it in the first place since I originally thought it was the real deal and not a reprint. My face was full of frustration when I got home and opened the comicbook and found out it was a reprint. I almost throwed it in a garbage can!

 

As for the shop's owner, I believe he consigned the remaining stock to another hobby shop since he cannot find anyone interested in buying them. Take note that this happened two years ago.

Here's some more EH books that came in today.

Hi, I live in the Philippines and want to show my copy of Superman #249. This one is a National Bookstore reprint.

 

 

I actually bought this copy accidentally since I thought it was an original. There was a store here in the Phillipines which closed a few years ago selling these reprints. I think they had a reprint also of the 1st appearance of Bullseye (Daredevil 131) in their long boxes.

Here's one more Filipino edition I forgot I even had.

There were also books done for National Bookstore and Goodwill Bookstore in the Philippines. The Filipino books are incredibly hard to find based on a few factors.

 

1) Print runs were not high.

 

2) The paper quality is lower than normal for Bronze Age books.

 

3) The climate conditions in the Philippines are not conducive to preserving paper products, staples either for that matter.

 

4) The majority of collectors there regarded (and still do) the Filipino versions as substandard and have no great interest in them so they were generally not cared for very well.

 

Here's pics of the National and Goodwill Bookstore editions that I've been able to get my hand on so far.

1) Action Comics #411 (saw another on ebay)

2) Avengers #96 (Define999 has one too)

3) Batman #237 (there's a lower grade copy pictured at STL)

4) World's Finest #210 (saw another on ebay)

5) Tarzan #205 (Define999 has one and a Filipino contact I spoke to has one)

That's it. We haven't seen duplicates of any others.

So, another question. Has more than one copy of any of these issues been found? For example, is there more than one Star Wars 1 known to exist?

Got a pic?

Man, mayhaps I should start publishing exact replicas of key issues by writing for publishing rights now. I can have the mintiest books and also sell them. Anyone interested to partner me on this investment plan??

It's not a matter of how desirable they are. Plain and simple they are versions of a product with slight differences, be it the cover price, advertisements etc. which is a variation of the original. Hence a variant version.

Filipino is not the correct term for the language spoken there, it's Tagalog. The books are in English though.

It's highly unlikely that more than one of the bookstores would have been granted the license to print the same book. At this time it can't be confirmed or denied since not enough of these books have surfaced to make that determination. The closest cross over we've been able to detect up to now is Goodwill Bookstore produced Action Comics #405 and National Bookstore produced Action Comics #411. We don't know, however, if the rights to publish switched from one chain to the other or if both were publishing their own versions at the same time.

Here's a few Canadian things I just got in the mail today.

Neal Adams told me straight up on Nov 2, 2012 at Long Beach Comic Con his own favorite cover is DC Special #6 with the rocket ship and indians and dead horse...

 

no one really even knows about that cover

 

227, 233, 232, GL76 etc etc, are so Iconic no will care about the avant garde covers

 

Let the fans vote...the 227 probably will be #1-3

 

either way they are all Neal Adams so its nothing more than greatness against greatness...

 

we are just splitting hairs

 

Just because the larger percentage of people would vote for the 227 doesn't make it a better cover.

When Mr. Adams himself states that he doesn't understand why people are so drawn (no pun intended) to the cover of Batman 227 (and Superman 233 for that matter) then you have to give it some consideration. There's a considerable amount of detail and varied emotion in so many other covers that he did that just aren't present with the 227.

227 is not just another NA cover. It is the NA Cover, yes, that one, the best one.

 

have truer words ever graced this forum? (thumbs u

227 is not just another NA cover. It is the NA Cover, yes, that one, the best one.

So they supposedly reprinted random issues or is that Sub-Mariner implying they reprinted all the series?

Is there an issue number in the insides?

Here's the only one I have in my collection, and the only one I've ever seen in person. I found it in a used book store/comic shop in Danville, Illinois about 15 years ago.

 

If I remember correctly Iron Man shared a book with another character, Daredevil maybe? I don't recall seeing Italian versions of any of the Silver or Bronze Age Iron Man covers though. Are there any?

The thing you have to keep in mind as far as the American collectors of foreign editions goes though is that the important parts of it is the use of the original cover and story content. When assembling a "set" of a particular book from various countries that's the key.

Nice! Thanos isn't quite as shadowed in the window as in the US version.

Hate to disagree much as I understand where you are coming from, but to most people, the common accepted understanding of variant is always to mean a book that is produced at the same time and from the same publisher, with different cover or geographical pricing. But in the case of these later date Philippines reprints , given that the contents and language are exact to each issue, these reprinted edns could thus well be considered and even classified as an odd form of variant edns, but more importantly, the acceptance of these as such must be collectively agreed among collectors., which I think not everyone will see eye to eye on this