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Just sent in an Unlimited WalkThrough order, just cause I want to see turn time.. will let everyone know.. just dropped in mail today.

Just getting into the lotto to get to submit is why I have passed on HGA.. que was always full.. so was I.

Google Vince McMahon WWE theme song and that will tell you what your odds are with a lawsuit...

Well, I had my own personal order with bulk get into system over another order of bulk with no express. Also, have seen guys post cards on Facebook sites,with bulk orders submitted after mine (3/25),that have theirs back. So, that is what I am going by.

So once you get acknowledgement email, how long until order is done? I have 1 Express, 10 Standard, 50 Bulk.. this is first one that has popped, so not sure of process from here. Just hit received today. Does clock/days start now? So 80 days away from bulk order done?(business days of course)

They just entered it into system.. was received 4/12.

Finally got some into system. Crazy thing is I have several bulk orders they have received/been signed for, that arrived well before this order. Those are still not in system. I did these with 1 express and they are in system. Also, I just learned today, that even though I have entered in same CC everytime to submit, CSG doesn't have that one hand. So had to manually give her number over phone. The help line was very helpful!

I guess because people are gonna pay it. If I had a service, that was in high demand, and I knew I could make more just by increasing the cost, it would be game. Even though you aren't gonna sign up, they are still gonna get many more that will. Truthfully, they don't care about you, the others that aren't gonna sign up. That is cold hard facts. It is what it is.

Sigh, yeah, yeah I have. Sent you 7 submissions. Sigh. Saddest page I see daily.

They don't want to enter or information cause the clock starts ticking. Super disappointing at this point. I am gonna send in a few more cause it is cheap at $8, but truthfully I am gonna wait for PSA. At least PSA is getting all my orders in system. I can't keep blindy sending in submissions with 0 return from CSG. Have 600+ there now, 0 entered. Even my express orders, nothing. Plus, it messes up my plan to pay off in staggered submissions. Clearly, CSG wasn't ready or can't handle this rush. We broke them. Sigh.

Why can't you enjoy hobby now without hoping for everyone to lose money on their collections now? Who looks forward to seeing a market crash so everyone can lose money, and they can buy cards cheap? What is a real collector, people who have a limited budget that want the big cards, but can't? I certainly don't have big money, but I don't want to see the market crash at all. I hope it goes up and up, and people who want to make money do. Confused by your post.

Just saw this drop on website.

Or at least do the 1 Express, and keep bulk in same order as it came in. Right now, they are letting all those bulk orders jump ahead of several that just did bulk grading.

The frustrating part about CSG is that folks found the loophole in their system that you can send 1 Express card in, pay the $40, and your whole bulk order jumps to the front of the line. I have seen in some facebooks groups that people have sent in bulk orders well after mine, and they are already back because they did 1 card at Express. That tells me CSG has no way, or no deserve, or no system to do just the express, and keep bulk cards in same order received. So, if that is system, you have to do same thing if you are sending in bulk. I imagine CSG is going to have to change that part of the process. If not, why would you ever send them a submission without 1 Express of even WalkThrough to speed up process. I have 400+ cards at CSG, and 0 have been entered in. They were signed for on March 25th. If they are going by 80 working days, from time the are entered into system, that puts return around August 8th. If entered next few days. By that time, we will know what PSA is planning to do with their submissions. I have 3500 cards at PSA, 1500 of those were not entered into system before shut down, as of yesterday PSA had entered 1100 of those since they shut down. Granted all are in Stage 3, and we know how long that takes. Early take, CSG wasn't ready for the tidal wave that hit them, and their turnaround times mean as much as PSA's turnaround times.

Yeah, I have been following that thread too. Surely they are slammed. Like I posted in that thread, wonder if they have folks working nights and over nights? Like most plants in America, surely the jobs are there, since there is a need. Not all the faults of these companies, people have to want the jobs. I know lots of folks aren't applying for jobs, in lots of fields.

I would love to know, what is the MAXIUM number of cards PER DAY that these companies can possible grade. Going full operations, all things up and running, with staff, there has to be a maxium number per day they can grade out. Has to be. No company in the world runs without knowing what they can produce. Granted CSG or PSA will never tell us, but has to be a number they know. Also, are these companies running 24/7? Do they have swing shift, night crew graders?? Can't imagine them being open from only 8-5 with a gazillion cards sitting there. Has to be people that want jobs, that are qualified that will work swing/overnight? Every major plant in America has those shifts. I am assuming we will never know, but that would tell us really what to expect on return expectations.

If you want to know 100% that your cards at CSG (or PSA too) send them with a signature required. This lets you know they were received, plus in case they are misplaced(doubtful this will ever happen), you have a name attached to who signed for your cards. It only costs a few dollars, and to those that are saying these are my "babies", well for less than a gallon of gas or packs of smokes, you can know exactly where your babies are out. Don't freak out so much and worry, spend the extra money.

Yes. .and I am seeing several that had bulks orders after that date being returned. Why? They put 1 card in Express, so their whole order of bulk got ahead of those in line for bulk. I am gonna start putting 1 card in at Express, so you can mark EX on box, and it gets instantly opened, and all cards go into to grading stage. I know for a fact, I have seen online, people who have shipped cards, that were received at CSG on April 1st etc, that are being done. At PSA, they would take just the Express out, grade that, but rest of your bulk/regular order still stayed in line Here is my tracker, showing it was signed for on March 24th.

I can do a 50 card order in about an hourish... So unless you are making $100 per hour, (50x$2), the $2 isn't worth it to me ... that is how I look at it.. but I can see it being used on some big bulk orders..

I sure hope so. Sent in some Upper Deck SPx cards for 1997-99. They were in the drop down. I have a bunch on Crown Royale Football cards. Would like to know about those too.. I looked, not real hard, but didn't see anything that said they were excluded.

At this point, with as many as they have done, no change. It would be a disaster on Ebay/etc for reselling. I would say just roll with it. It is their look, and that is recognizable. Don't change it all.

JUST an FYI- make sure you check your orders. I just did a large 110 card submit, or thought I did. When I was finished, and finalized deal, I noticed that some of cards I entered didn't show-up. I had a big stack, and knew I wanted to do 110 cards, didn't realize that some that I typed in didn't get added to my cart. So at the end, I actually had 120 cards, was charged right amount, but didn't catch that 10 weren't entered. In future, I am gonna count out a 100, and have them in stacks of 25 to make sure my order is correct. Lesson learned. ALSO- I noticed that my order had a name changed. I entered in 1993-94 Topps Finest 136 Shawn Kemp, on final print out, it read 1993-94 Topps Finest Jim Jackson. Hopefully my handwritten adjustment won't cost me additional fee.

This was one of my packages. Arrived at CSG, was signed for. March 24th, bulk, 50 card order. Still not in system. Shows that CSG has not received any packages in 3 months. I have 250 cards(5 orders) there now. 0 are in system. Gonna send in some today that are express to see if they get back before these are even started.

Exactly! Way to long! Not enough to give them $2 more per card though..but frustrating for sure.

Also, don't like how you can't save your sub halfway through, or see what other subs you have entered. Once you print it, it is gone. Please mimic system PSA uses. No need to reinvent the wheel here. Obviously collectors like it, and are use to that style.