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Well no, it's not. After consideration though Jo Seph said he was out $30 (I assume the Paypal Fee). That needs to be fixed or maybe the list might grow.

It appears the HOS/Probation list won't be growing this week.

I'm hoping to get a sales thread up tonight. There are bad thunderstorms here now and the lights are flickering...

$16.20 with the free, non-member 10% discount Last time I sent a modern is was when it was $12 with a 20% discount from Heritage. So I paid $9.60 per book. The good old days.

Awesome books! But I don't like where that guy is aiming!

Damn. Modern fee is up to $18? Extra Butthurt for those Sixth Gun hoarders. SCHADENFREUDE!

Oh god tell me it's moderns not value. It is a 1970 bronze book. That makes a difference in them doing their job? Comics Grading Tiers and Services A $5 handling fee per invoice applies to all submissions in addition to the grading tiers below. Service Current Turnaround† Est. Turnaround Max. Value*** Retail Price Value 59 business days 40 business days $150 / ea. $25 per book; 15-book min. submission Value Fast Track 20 business days 20 business days $150 / ea. $35 per book; 15-book min. submission Economy 59 business days 40 business days $300 / ea. $35 per book Economy Fast Track 20 business days 20 business days $300 / ea. $45 per book Standard 15 business days 15 business days $1,000 / ea. $60 per book Express 5 business days 5 business days $3,000 / ea. $95 per book 15 Day Standard Coupon 15 business days 15 business days for comics submitted with Col Soc coupon $1,000 / ea. Col Soc coupon Walkthru Same day Same day no limit 3% FMV†† Modern* 60 business days 20 business days $200 / ea. $18 per book Modern Fast Track* 10 business days 10 business days $200 / ea. $28 per book ReHolder** 10 business days 10 business days Less than $50,000 $12 per book High Value ReHolder 10 business days 10 business days no limit $24 per book ========================================= Says there Value Fast track should take 20 days!

Oh god tell me it's moderns not value.

Was it personal or did you get hit with a Paypal fee?

Oh it most certainly does The dots don't connect but I'm really happy you've got your money back. Wait. How did you get your refund? But didn't Jo Seph pay via Western Union? I thought the same thing. Which means Jo Seph's "refund" could be charged back depending how it was sent. I don't recall a PayPal refund option when the initial payment was not Paypal. If it was sent personal it couldn't be charged back right?

So his message on 4/22 telling you to see if the book arrives was a lie of omission being that BlueHawaii posted a message saying he bought the same book from dillon on 4/8? That's what smells. He should have been honest and told Jo Seph that the book had been mailed back because of some kind of error and upfront that there might be a delay in a refund until he could sell the book to someone else.

I might have a guess. Seller sells book needs cash now (bills/taxes/whatever). Pays bills/taxes/whatever right away while mails the book to Australia. Weeks later book comes back while buyer emails him wondering wth my book dude? Seller panics because he can't refund since the money is spent and is afraid to try to mail it again overseas. Sells book to guy from USA because this time book won't get lost. Was planing to refund first buyer once he got the deal done with new buyer but everything blows up here before he can tie up lose ends. Plausible enough, but the second buyer paid (I think) April 11? If there was a good faith intention to refund the first buyer its taken awhile, no? But of course if there was a good faith intention anywhere in this transaction the first buyer would have been informed the moment the book was returned undelivered, yes? That's the one thing only the seller knows, if he had a good faith intention to refund the original buyer or if he was going to "double dip".

I might have a guess. Seller sells book needs cash now (bills/taxes/whatever). Pays bills/taxes/whatever right away while mails the book to Australia. Weeks later book comes back while buyer emails him wondering wth my book dude? Seller panics because he can't refund since the money is spent and is afraid to try to mail it again overseas. Sells book to guy from USA because this time book won't get lost. Was planing to refund first buyer once he got the deal done with new buyer but everything blows up here before he can tie up lose ends.

No way. I would buy zombie Donald Duck issue 1!

One hurdle passed, one to go.

This doesn't make a lot of sense. You sold a book to someone, it's your responsibliity to get that book to the person, not decide to sell it to someone else. Once Jo Seph paid for it, it's HIS book, not yours, it was not your decision to make to sell it to someone else. In addition, it doesn't seem that you ever mentioned any of this to Jo Seph. :shrug: Did the guy down-under (Jo Seph) get his refund? Did the other guy (Bleuhawaii) get the JIM 83? Can we confirm this? Then maybe you won't go to HOS.

Could be classic eBay type comic scammer. Sell $20-$50 comics/collectibles. Build up 10-20 positive feedback (nothing to lose). Then unleash the $1000 book and sell it to 2, 3, or 4 people and walk away with the evil smile on your face.

Did he have a sales thread or was this all private PMs?

Still no sign of the book and my messages since the 22nd are still unread. Evidently he sold me the same JIM 83 two weeks ago. Paid via Paypal. No word since. Sounds like another HOSer!

Cut the head off him Danno!

Let me guess - you were just as "friendly" over the phone as you were in this post, right? Btw, tone/mood cannot be interpreted over text, at least not without exclamation points or caps lock. Therefore your comment is ridiculous as it is impossible for you to interpret my "written voice" but thanks for playing. right on Stanley1883, Msschmidt sounds dooshy in protecting CGC even though you paid for a service and did receive it.... Imagine if companies like McDonalds, or Starbucks, or Movie Theatres pulled this... we would not be backing them,,,, I want fast food. I don't want fast grading.

Wonder if anyone ever filed a BBB report. I'd hate to see their grades on the next submission.

Last month?

omg I can't view the results until the polling time is over? I could be dead by then. 1) Can't do nothing about PMs. 2) Can't really stop them from posting sales threads or since only the Mods could and they won't. All we can do is warn others. Since thread crapping is not allowed now I guess general discussion (this thread) is the only place to do it.

I get the 3% extra for paypal... but that would be 1150 vs $1185... am I wrong that Paypal takes 3%? Is there some condition where they charge closer to to 10%? Well it could be he's giving an extra big discount for cash buyers because he really hates Paypal or at least fears the 1099.