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The question becomes whether to bid higher to protect your "winnings" or not. I was happy with my price and max bid yesterday, but of course this situation forces you to rethink and perhaps overthink and overcommit to a book you had already mentally taken ownership of. I don't know why they went all the way back to #2 with Amazing, but I guess they thought that that was the fairest way to approach the problem.

Yeah, i think you are getting screwed on your #12! I was bidding on the #14 and things were definitely working fine at that point. Whoever it was outbid me fair and square and now i have a chance to go back and outbbid him. Unfortunately, after i missed that, i got a few books i wouldnt have if i got the 14. Now i gotta decide if i'm gonna use the money i had earmarked for a few FF's and Xmen to rebid on the ASM 14 Fortunately for me I was going hard after the #12 and had no plans to buy other books in the auction, but I can definitely see your dilemma. Being a Spidey guy like I am, I would advise you to go back after the #14 if it is within your reach. For books in that pre-outage zip code I doubt that the prices will move much because everyone that wanted to get in on the bidding did. However, you may have that guy who had to work or whatever that couldn't bid yesterday but can today. You'll also have bitter underbidders who will jack a few prices up because they get a new lease on life with that auction. I guess we'll see. There are likely to be a few unhappy folks either way.

Of course I spout off and then Clink goes and posts this: "ATTENTION BIDDERS: There was an enormous amount of simultaneous traffic on the server for the Spideys causing the server to go down for 5 minutes, between 8:24pm until 8:29pm (between Amazing Spider-Man #42 and Amazing Spider-Man #52). We are taking precautions so this does not reoccur. However, based on the presumption that there was probably a slowdown before the outage, and likely bidder disorientation afterwards, we have decided that the most fair thing in this situation to both bidders and sellers is to reopen Amazing Spider-Man lots from #2 thru #102 tomorrow and extend the bidding process for these items. These lots will reopen Wednesday afternoon at the current high bids and resume closing starting at 7:30PM EST. They will be followed by the regularly scheduled lots (starting with Daring Mystery), which will be pushed back accordingly." Which frankly I'm not happy about because I won my #12 fair and square right before the outage. Guess I'll be back later to bid AGAIN. If you won (or lost) a Spidey last night make sure you set your clocks to re-snipe.

It would be nice if they did give sellers that option. Some may be pleased with their prices (I haven't looked at all the final results from that span of time) but others may be really upset. I'm sure there is some language in the Clink agreements that says they can void results in the event of a technical issue, and this would certainly qualify. Ah yes, and don't forget the angry Winning Bidders who will have something to complain about too. Yes, exactly, that's the dilemma, they cannot really fix it. Pulling them entirely as cheetah suggested is the most fair thing they could do. But they'd have to do it really quickly, as in now or tonight. Once people start paying for the books it becomes more complicated still. I think that CLink could look hard at the bids at the very end of the auctions and figure out which ones were affected greatly. Can they? Several books sold for GPA or more during the time of the outage, do those sellers give it another go as well? Are they going to be given a chance to relist their books? Will C-Link make it mandatory that they do, or will they "pick and choose" who was affected and who wasn't? Assuming C-link are able to narrow down the actual time of the outage, what about those books that ended just thereafter? Wouldn't the sellers have a point if they said that despite the site being back online, who knows how many buyers gave up and quit trying to bid? How long do you extend that time frame? 5 minutes after the outage? 10? Again, more buyers are going to get ticked if arbitrary decisions are made here. You would think that if a book sells way off GPA and is clearly anomalous (like the #31) then it would be a pretty easy case. If things are more iffy then Clink could allow the complaining sellers to relist or offer them a commission waiver if that would help bring prices a bit more inline. For the buyers there wouldn't be a lot they could do other than maybe offer free shipping on their next purchase or two. I don't know that Clink can win by mandating that sellers relist, but if they gave sellers the option if they can make a case that their book was adversely affected by the outage then that would be fair. Like I said above, some sellers may be perfectly happy with a bird in the hand and wouldn't want to try their luck again, while others may be hopping mad or would rather keep their book for the price they got. Auctions are never a guarantee, and anything can happen month to month or even day to day on books. I doubt that every seller would want to negate their results from that time, but those that do would have the option if their books were clearly out of line on the low end with GPA or prior results on Clink or other sites.

Thanks, I picked up another gem tonight that I likely overpaid a bit for but I couldn't pass it up. Will post a pic shortly. I think the earlier start for JIM and ST is definitely a factor in the number of higher grade issues. When you consider that TOS & TTA started up when ST and JIM had been going for 60+ issues already you will definitely see a difference there. Also I'm sure that the early JIM and ST issues had fairly low print runs, as all comics in the 1950's late pre-code and early post-code era were feeling the effects of the comics implosion after the Senate hearings, etc.

It would be nice if they did give sellers that option. Some may be pleased with their prices (I haven't looked at all the final results from that span of time) but others may be really upset. I'm sure there is some language in the Clink agreements that says they can void results in the event of a technical issue, and this would certainly qualify.

Hmmm, you think that Clink may be dropping the sales commissions on a bunch of ASMs to try to make it right with a few sellers? I don't see how they can charge the 10% if their site went and froze up right when a bunch of nice books were ending. And on a Featured Auction no less.

I noticed that the site completely locked up too. It seems to have resolved itself, but I wonder what happened. It can't be good for Clink to off that many sellers, and of course the freeze had to happen during the Amazings...

Just picked this beauty up on Clink. I nearly missed it by forgetting rule #1 when sniping an auction, which is to log in before there is only 16 seconds left. Luckily my bid landed with a whole second to spare...

That's a nice book. Maybe I am in the minority here, but I wouldn't consider a 5.5 to be "low grade". That to me is a mid-grade, while around 3.5 and lower is low grade. I'm sure others look at it differently.

Nice books! (thumbs u Thanks Korvac! Hey, would you happen to know if there are any 10 cent copies of JIM #76 out there? I have only seen the overprints and 12 cent covers, and didn't know if any of the 10 cent versions squeaked out before they overprinted the new prices. If there are any out there they must be pretty rare.

The JIM #76 from Austin is a nice companion to this copy:

Already posted these in Comic Events in my WW Austin show recap, but they definitely belong here too. Thanks to Richard (Bedrock) for the TOS and Worldwide for the AAF & JIM.

As far as I can tell, the logic is that eBay wants to coddle buyers as much as possible with the promise of no consequences so they come spend money on the site. It has made selling even more problematic.

I love that you can see the "L" in Learn on the bottom line of text. 9.6 is awesome enough, but that centering earns it an extra and a .

Sooner or later everything is about the money, unfortunately. Especially with rabid collectors willing to pay through the nose for the "best".

Grades on the #9 & #37?

You mean like this one? Yes, like that one. Nice book (looks like the same copy reslabbed)! Even if I can't own them I can grab the scans! Even now that I own one I still consider that a nemesis book.

I had a horrible time with TTA #2. I finally got a lower grade copy that I way overpaid for because I really wanted it. You see many more #1s than you do #2s, and for me that seems to be the TTA that I see least frequently. I mainly go after TTA and TOS, but am just starting to pick up a few JIMs here and there. Like trmoore I also like well-presenting mid-grades but will pick up stunners when the budget allows.

Time for a on this thread, and since I had this nice scan handy I thought it would fit the bill. A nice copy, but quite a bit of NCB wear that doesn't show in the scan:

Just sent 5 books to Dan and the transaction was flawless! Looking forward to future deals!

indeed!

Congrats!

Beautiful books!

As far as I can tell it doesn't do anything in the way of a repair. I think it is bag tape that got stuck to the cover. I'm really considering having it removed if it wouldn't make this book a PLOD as I think I could get a bump of at least 2 points if not more on a resubmit sans tape. First off, I think it's a great looking book and if the grade and tape bother you I suggest cracking it out. In a mylar with backing board you won't see the tape. Unless it's very fresh, tape removal will leave a mark. The location of the tape will be discolored to the rest of the book and CGC will downgrade for it. IMO it will grade 6.0 sans tape but with residue and not worth the expense. That is my concern. The tape doesn't bother me so much (I did buy the book slabbed with the tape) but if it could be removed without causing damage then I would prefer that. The paper I can see hasn't appeared to discolor much, even under the tape (as best I can tell). I've seen some amateur tape removals off of vintage toy boxes that didn't leave any signs (though cardboard is different than cover stock, I know). I know that tape can continue to deteriorate and I would rather arrest the process then have it get worse over time. I could live with a blue label 6.0 as long as the work & regrade were in the ~$50 range total.