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there is no interior (to this copy) - its an untrimmed cover with no book

On 11/27/2023 at 9:54 AM, delekkerste said:

It actually hasn't been for a long time (for reasons that I won't bore people here with).

Yep, "buy what you like" only works on a financial basis if lots of other people like it as well. 

hahah that's pretty good.    There's some truth in that.     I'd like Mile High Timely and Actions.   

On 11/25/2023 at 2:57 PM, Yorick said:

300 PAGES?!!  This pic gives a little bit of an idea of just how thick those books are.  I was an underbidder on an AUS 300 pager.  Should have gone harder. 

They are SIX bound GA books!

Decades and dates really do make the most sense.     There's so much change even within those ages that understanding them fully requires getting back to dates anyways.    Things changed a lot from year to year within the specific significant movements in comics.   1962 SA marvels aren't like 1966 SA marvels, and 1952 Barks ducks are quite different than 1959 Barks ducks.

On 11/14/2023 at 9:56 PM, spracknetch23 said:

Wow, 40 years..that's insane. Anyone here been a fan since the beginning? I discovered TMNT in late '88 when I saw the toys filling the shelves of a local department store. The "bursting out of a brick wall" packaging was really eye-catching. 

I came on around Issue #10 - saw that cover and was a fan ever since.    I guess that was around 1987.

On 11/20/2023 at 8:40 PM, adamstrange said:

Golden Age represents the golden age of superheroes when they went from being 13% share of a very small market in 1938 to a 54% share of a much larger market in 1941.  In June 1941, there are 57 comics, 42 of which are arguably mostly super-hero based. 

1938 and even 1939 are pointless years to use because there was almost no superheroes being published yet.  

Your point about 1941 is fair, but what's that look like in 1951?  I think the point he's making is that after the initial boom during the war years, superheroes weren't that popular - again - until the 60s/70s.

On 11/21/2023 at 6:10 PM, Carlo M said:

Super peak Perez with great Marcos inks in the interiors . Great storylines . This cover has a great layout , prime characters and screams Perez. The spiders are a bit distracting though …

I'm not 100% in love with the published image either, but that's one cover where I think it will look a lot better in black and white.    There's a lot of mishmashed colors that are a bit distracting that won't be present on the OA.

On 11/21/2023 at 10:23 PM, tth2 said:

On the other hand, some stuff is going for way more than it went for during Covid. 

Alex Raymond Flash Gordons, for example. 

Yes, exactly, and so that’s the relevant metric I think.    The market has a lot of factors moving up and down within it comingled into results.    At the end of thr end of thr day, even if we take Covid volatility out of the equation as best we can there are still other trends effecting the marketplace.    For example on the comic book side I’ve noticed that LB Cole covers have been on fire and have stayed hot.   ECs have strongly trended up as well. 
 

Ie not everything has returned to 2019 levels because there have been some supply and demand changes. 

On 11/20/2023 at 5:31 PM, RBerman said:

I can understand its appeal. Ant-Man gained the ability to control spiders, which seems noteworthy.

  1st true appearance of spider-man!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Sure.   I think the real question is what was that splash worth at the end of 2019, and what is it worth now?   You have to throw the whole covid era out. 

oh sure.   I don't think anyone's arguing otherwise.   However art has held up pretty well overall, largely because it really didn't rocket upward in the first place to the same degree that copper drek did.     Didn't rocket to the moon = doesn't need to fall back down so far.

On 11/20/2023 at 7:16 AM, Dr. Balls said:

If you take $1M (for example) in auction funds that you tie up for 6 weeks and plug it into a 4 week T-Bill, that's $50k in interest (assuming a 2 week window for funds to arrive). I don't know how Heritage invests it's funds, but that's a super simple option to execute in that timeframe. These places love leeching off someone elses' money. I'd do the same in a hot minute if I was holding onto money that wasn't mine and could dictate when I get to give it back.

No to be that guy, but to earn 5% interest in 4 weeks you need a 60% bill rate.  

You’d earn more like 5%, if that’s your rate, x4/52

I don’t care for the image that much either and I didn’t read avengers but have heard many people bring up that issue.    Can someone remind the unwashed as to the significance of that issue?

On 11/17/2023 at 2:53 PM, batman_fan said:

Somebody got a smoking deal 

honestly, I'm not surprised it hit six figures.   I was going to post that as a prediction and didn't just in case I was going to look silly if it fell short.

Its an infamous piece, its a hot era, etc.

It is... unique.

On 11/17/2023 at 1:34 PM, tth2 said:

Yeah, but there's none of Corben's unique depth/3D-ness.  Anyways, it appears that others considered this to be a highly desirable piece.  

maybe the fact its a back cover helped

On 11/17/2023 at 11:17 AM, batman_fan said:

I just saw that page 

Corben stuff has seemed strong lately.   I love his covers and I'm glad to see his work doing well.  

I had the same initial reaction to this page, but when I actually zoom in on the HA image, most of the panels really present quite well.

If it still isn't to your taste, 1971 undergrounds may not be for you in general?    I think its really pretty neat.    I wouldn't pay 30k for it, but its neat.

Yes; I'm not quite sure if that's because its not superhero material, or what exactly.

BWS wolverine seems to have shot up, so it seems to be more about the property than the artist.

TBH in relative terms I think it was expensive 10-15 years ago, and I think its getting cheap now.    A decent BWS conan cover going for the same money as What If 11 seems dumb.

here's one going strong in tomorrow's auction:

Robert Crumb Vulture Goddess (Vulture Demoness) Sculpture Original Art (1990)....

On 11/16/2023 at 3:52 PM, Vintage_Paper said:

I always have a laugh when an October Marvel Comics 1 shows up. It reminds me how Metropolis Comics would go on and on about comic collectors don't distinguish between multiple printings of Golden Age comic book keys and they are all worth the same as all that's important is it's the first issue. That was until they had an October Marvel Comics 1 they were selling. They did a complete 180 and went on an on about how important and more valuable the first printing is.

 that sounds about right. 

On 11/16/2023 at 4:01 PM, zen514 said:

They sold out the first run. Then had to add November for the second printing. So a TMNT first  and second  have to the same value?

So  you laugh every 5 to 7 years🤣

 

 

There are also multiple printings of Superman 1 and Batman 1, but there isn't a big value differential there.

On 11/16/2023 at 1:44 PM, delekkerste said:

That seems light to me, as was the JRJR Uncanny X-Men #177 cover at $84K. 

Highly confident both would have fetched considerably more 18-24 months ago.

I'm sure you're right about, but with reset expectations, is 78k roughly the expected number?      My initial expectation when I saw the page was 100k.   But then I got to thinking that might be too much for the current market.   I can't quite decide if that's me Monday Morning Quarterbacking... or just reflecting a reset expectation.

Overall the auction seemed like a mixed bag to me.    Some results that seemed light and some that didn't.   

what if cover for 60k seemed very strong

On 11/16/2023 at 1:17 PM, G.A.tor said:

first Iron Man panel at 280+...surprising or about right?

I thought the Barks painting seemed a bit low at 75k for a beautiful image... no scrooge in this one though.

Dr Strange 5 cover at 84k seems really strong to me for that cover.

Cockrum xmen 102 splash I guess is about right at 78k? but what a gorgeous page.

Fabry Bane 2 cover at 26k seems cheap compared to some of these others but it did only sell for 7k ten years ago.

TOS 39 page seemed on the strong end of the range.    I would have guessed maybe 250?  But I can't fault the buyer at 336, that's an incredible page to own.

On 11/16/2023 at 1:05 PM, comix4fun said:

I love conversations pieces. I also love watching train wrecks...I bet it's $50k. 

I'm going to say its even more

While that’s good advice for some I  think there’s more to it for a lot of people.   First of all the wheeling and dealing can help people collect more of what they like if they manage it well, but more to the point… for some people, and to varying degrees, the wheeling and dealing itself is what makes them happy as much or more than the items themselves.

Different people collect in different ways and there’s no one size fits all answer… not even ‘collect what you like.’   I think collect HOW you like is closer to the heart of the matter.