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Bronty

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  1. On 10/30/2023 at 11:34 PM, tth2 said:

    I could actually understand the reaction better if it was Stan Lee that had actually signed it.

    The reaction isn't hard for us to parse out.   Its large, distracting and in the middle of the page.    If it was small and in the margins no one would say boo.

    It sort of reminds me of how as a hobby, in the early days, we got books signed on the interior, often the page 1 margin, when the signatures were "for us."

    It was only when signatures evolved into something for resale that people began to have the covers signed.... the grass roots desire to have the book signed tended heavily to have them signed unobtrusively so that the signature wouldn't distract.   That same desire is probably what bothers us as a hobby, at least some of us, when it comes to having a big white signature in the middle of what is supposed to be a large black moody space.

    While it personally wouldn't stop me from buying the page if I was in the market for it, I might bid an increment or two less.    Its a bit distracting.

    Obviously the comparison stops there as no one would have had gaiman sign it that way for resale considerations, but the basic desires at play are the same and as you hint at, Stan Lee's signatures are the best example of how for many people less is more when it comes to signatures.

    There has to be a natural tipping point as to what people like and don't like in a signature after all.    Otherwise, we'd be getting every panel signed in multiple colors of sharpie.

  2. On 10/30/2023 at 11:33 AM, delekkerste said:

    No, it's all Megg & Mogg and related characters from the series (like Werewolf Jones). 

    I would say that while you wouldn't want to buy, say, a Serpieri piece that didn't have nudity, there is a wide majority of funny and/or pathos-inducing pages by Hanselmann that don't actually show the most extreme gross-out humor that he is capable of and so I don't think it is in any way settling for less to get a page that doesn't include squirting, penetration, etc. :eek: 

    squirting you say!   I may have to start reading it :insane: 

  3. On 10/30/2023 at 10:03 AM, delekkerste said:

    Here's a timely Halloween scene from last year's "Werewolf Jones & Sons Autumnal Grievance Spectacular" (Fantagraphics, 2022) by Simon Hanselmann, my most recent pick up of the Australian-born creator's art (I've been a fan for years now). Megg, Mogg, Owl & Werewolf Jones' sons (Jaxon & Diesel) have a disturbing encounter with a shotgun-toting neighbor before witnessing an even more distressing scene in the form of a pants-less and possibly dead Werewolf Jones lying in the middle of the road behind police tape!

    A great Hanselmann page without any oozing orifices, veiny genitalia, lewd sexual acts and/or other depictions that would make it unsuitable for display (always a risk with Hanselmann pages!!)

    SimonHanselmannWerewolfJonesandSonsFallFolliesp112023scan.thumb.jpg.7aa1deac4cf0b1537a87dfd0146df9f7.jpg

    Btw Gene, I feel like I've seen this artist before but I haven't bought any new books in a while?   Does he do other work we might have seen?

  4. On 10/30/2023 at 10:03 AM, delekkerste said:

    Here's a timely Halloween scene from last year's "Werewolf Jones & Sons Autumnal Grievance Spectacular" (Fantagraphics, 2022) by Simon Hanselmann, my most recent pick up of the Australian-born creator's art (I've been a fan for years now). Megg, Mogg, Owl & Werewolf Jones' sons (Jaxon & Diesel) have a disturbing encounter with a shotgun-toting neighbor before witnessing an even more distressing scene in the form of a pants-less and possibly dead Werewolf Jones lying in the middle of the road behind police tape!

    A great Hanselmann page without any oozing orifices, veiny genitalia, lewd sexual acts and/or other depictions that would make it unsuitable for display (always a risk with Hanselmann pages!!)

    SimonHanselmannWerewolfJonesandSonsFallFolliesp112023scan.thumb.jpg.7aa1deac4cf0b1537a87dfd0146df9f7.jpg

    Nice piece!

    As a side note, its interesting to see the different thought processes on the more risque work.    My approach is the opposite; if an artist is known for really risque material (R-rated because of graphic sex or violence) then that's exactly what I want and I'm not worried about whether or not it can be displayed.      If I collected Crumb, I'd want one that exemplifies what he's known for, which probably means somebody's having sex with somebody on the page where I suspect you'd be more comfortable with say an illustration of Mr Natural that you could hang without any hanky panky happening in the illo.    I'm not familiar with this artist, but if graphic is what he's known for, its what I lean into.

    I wonder what other people think on that?    I think both perspectives are out there but I wonder where people fall out, on average.   

     

  5. On 10/27/2023 at 4:26 PM, themagicrobot said:

    It’s funny how you use the word “foreign “ as I don’t think it applies so much in the UK. We embrace the whole world. I love your comics but I also love UK comics and European comics. What car do you drive? I have a British car … a Bond…look it up… and a German car… an Opel…..and an American car… a Mustang V8

    If you discount stuff from anywhere else as inferior I think it is you that are missing out.

    Well if you like the use of the word foreign, you would really enjoy the use of the word "overseas."

    A good number of Americans conflate "overseas" with "international" regularly.

    I once had to ask an ebay seller that was mad at me for purchasing an item with no "overseas" shipping to specify exactly which "sea" was between BC and California as my map didn't indicate one :kidaround:      He begrudgingly agreed there was no sea to fly over but I should have 'known what he meant.'

    In other words, 

    Outside of US = Overseas.

    Hawaii and Alaska = Not overseas.    Despite there being, you know, "seas"/oceans separating the land masses which require flying "over."

    And look, if I'm living in the US, I'm probably acting the same way, so no hate.    They are used to the convenience of being able to transact totally within their own borders.   If anything I'm jealous!

  6. On 10/27/2023 at 2:05 PM, themagicrobot said:

    (tsk)

    the market is what it is.   American buyers don't respond to foreign collectibles to the same extent as American collectibles.

    I've had some American buyers express this to me in very clear terms.   

    Obviously, others don't care.    And there's also many that want to feel like they don't care, but their buying behaviour says otherwise.

  7. On 10/27/2023 at 1:05 PM, comix4fun said:

    For the longest time people assumed that the US AF 15 was printed a month before the UK Pence version because the US Version has an "Aug" (8/62) designation on the cover and the Pence only has a September, 1962 designation on the inside indicia. The stink of "reprint" (even inaccurate) stuck for long time. 

    That might have been the reason put on it at some point, but let's not kid ourselves.

    Foreign = yuck for most US buyers.

    1980s Cdn variants don't sell for as much as US variants either.  

    And TBH I can understand wanting the exact version that was for sale in your own country; that's fair.    It is what it is and its fair play.   But to bring it full circle, in the same way that people want the comics (or other collectibles; lots of examples...) that came out in their own country, Americans want to watch shows that look American to them.     That's just a fact and I think generally very apparent to those of us outside the US.     I don't think its 'wrong' to be clear.   People can watch what they want and buy what they want.     

  8. On 10/27/2023 at 11:52 AM, comix4fun said:

    It's not the accent (for most viewers at least) it's the vernacular, slang, and location specific jokes and commentary that don't translate as well or as completely. 

    Also, the production values and budget per episode can vary wildly. The example I go to is UK Office vs US Office. A lot translates, some doesn't, but those UK episodes were shot on a sliver of the budget of the US version and you can see it in camera work and overall production value. it’s both.  

    It’s both of those factors.   

    If it’s not ‘murican a lot of people aren’t interested.   Pence variants of amazing fantasy 15 trade at 50% for this reason.   The book is otherwise identical… but it’s not ‘murican.