cgriffith

10 hours ago, Primetime said:

Here’s my 7 which I’ve had awhile now. Don’t think I ever posted it here. The best 1.0 on the census from what I’ve seen with no brittleness, no large pieces out of the FC, or no missing interior story panels (Siegel copy) 

Beautiful book

7 minutes ago, Tsp99 said:

Here's one to add to the above list.  Had it since the mid 90s.  Anybody remember Continental Comics?  Got this one and and a couple other early ones at the time.

Absolutely gorgeous and another great cover by O'Mealia

On 6/1/2020 at 8:44 PM, cgriffith said:

• So I decided to go through the thread and catalog where we stand from boardies on the Early Action "run"; most the books posted were raw (I personally like that because while you have an investment/important piece of comic history. You can also read it and enjoy yourself)
• There where also 22 other early Action books were the picture was no longer available so these numbers do not reflect those copies.
• 196 copies (#1-24) within the thread.

1. Action 1 - 10 copies, then 8 single pages
2. Action 2 - 8 copies
3. Action 3 - 6 copies
4. Action 4 - 9 copies
5. Action 5 - 8 copies
6. Action 6 - 6 copies
7. Action 7 - 6 copies
8. Action 8 - 7 copies
9. Action 9 - 5 copies
10. Action 10 - 4 copies
11. Action 11 - 5 copies
12. Action 12 - 7 copies
13. Action 13 - 7 copies
14. Action 14 - 11 copies
15. Action 15 - 13 copies
16. Action 16 - 9 copies
17. Action 17 - 11 copies
18. Action 18 - 10 copies
19. Action 19 - 11 copies
20. Action 20 - 11 copies
21. Action 21 - 7 copies
22. Action 22 - 8 copies
23. Action 23 - 8 copies
24. Action 24 - 9 copies

Updated to reflect the 5.5 - 5 and raw 3 that were just added recently. 

40 minutes ago, thejudge01 said:

I agree they are underrated , especially #4-6, 8+9

Just picked up this one

that presents well and is one of my favorite O’Mealia covers, congratulations 

29 minutes ago, comicdonna said:

I used to own all of the non Superman covers, except for #8.  I think they are underrated.  

For myself I think O’Mealia(s) cover art on 5 is top tier; and 6 I get it , it’s Jimmy Olsen’s debut but the cover even is masterful. O’Mealia work on those non-Superman covers is revolutionary. The covers tell thier own story.

I have a question which arose talking to my Comic store owner which came up; Are early Actions (not 2, definitely not!) 3-6 under appreciated? 7, 10, 13 get the love but 3-6 for what it’s worth have full cover art by O’Mealia, and 6 is the first appearance of Jimmy Olsen. Are any of those considered monsters?

• So I decided to go through the thread and catalog where we stand from boardies on the Early Action "run"; most the books posted were raw (I personally like that because while you have an investment/important piece of comic history. You can also read it and enjoy yourself)
• There where also 22 other early Action books were the picture was no longer available so these numbers do not reflect those copies.
• 194 copies (#1-24) within the thread.

1. Action 1 - 10 copies, then 8 single pages
2. Action 2 - 8 copies
3. Action 3 - 5 copies
4. Action 4 - 9 copies
5. Action 5 - 7 copies
6. Action 6 - 6 copies
7. Action 7 - 6 copies
8. Action 8 - 7 copies
9. Action 9 - 5 copies
10. Action 10 - 4 copies
11. Action 11 - 5 copies
12. Action 12 - 7 copies
13. Action 13 - 7 copies
14. Action 14 - 11 copies
15. Action 15 - 13 copies
16. Action 16 - 9 copies
17. Action 17 - 11 copies
18. Action 18 - 10 copies
19. Action 19 - 11 copies
20. Action 20 - 11 copies
21. Action 21 - 7 copies
22. Action 22 - 8 copies
23. Action 23 - 8 copies
24. Action 24 - 9 copies

1 hour ago, lou_fine said:

Jay;

Clearly you don't understand economics and the rationale for making super hero movies in the first place, as any profit from a movie is to be seen as a total surprise and unexpected bonus.  

Super hero movies are simply used as loss leaders to get more people to go into their LCS's to pick up the latest issue of their super hero comics because that's where the real money is being made.    

Seriously, very well done for Aquaman as a 3rd tier character and for all comic book fans here as Aquaman the Movie looks like it could go past the $1B mark by the time it's all said and done.   

I’d disagree that Aquaman is third tier. He’s one of DC original comic book heroes. Ask DC if Aquaman is third tier. He’s literally in every major team for DC and one of its Golden Age Heroes.

Mickey Mouse. 

Was not only Walt and Roy Disney's first animated character, but has become a symbol of a worldwide brand, not only through the comic medium, but also books, novels, film, entertainment and theme parks. 

19 minutes ago, ender said:

I can admit to paying 200 for just the centerfold to a More Fun 53, which is a very minor key compared to some thrown around on the first post.  I think it does matter how likely you are to be able to complete it.  I might consider paying a pretty good chunk for an Action 1 or Tec 27 coverless because even a 1.0 is really out of my budget on those books.  I think from CGC currently you have to have the back or front cover to get it up to a 0.5 and I don't know that I have ever seen them give a 0.3 or a 0.1

Yeah for CGC to give a 0.5, you need at least a partial cover, either back or front. Although there are examples of CBCS of giving 0.1/0.3 on certain books. 

6 minutes ago, valiantman said:

Missing wraps and centerfold are hard to value because CGC will include notes like "affects story", but if it's a Action Comics issue where it affects the Scoop Scanlon story... that's not much of a loss.  If it "affects story" for Superman, then it's catastrophic. 

And that's where doing a little research comes into play (looking/reading the comic to find where the "story" is) and if any of those missing wraps, etc dont affect the main story than sure. I hope collectors consider that when looking at them, if they're not complete coverless examples

Just now, valiantman said:

Here's a fun one to think about... a slabbed coverless Hulk #180 is actually a better slab to display (from the back) than Hulk #180 with a cover. 

There are many great splashes out there that are better than the cover itself (I can think of a few early Bat/Tec's) I think one of the best examples of this is a Detective Comics #35

9 minutes ago, valiantman said:

Right.  I have seen the prices for coverless Action 10 or Action 13, for example, and they're still using a percentage of the Good or VG pricing.  If you lose the cover to one of those, it seems like you might as well discount a coverless Action #9 to set the price for the #10 or the #13. 

Very interesting thought. 

8 minutes ago, valiantman said:

Meanwhile, a coverless All-Star #8 still contains 100% of what makes it key. 

Exactly, and would still hold value assuming it is still complete (if it's missing wraps or the centerfold as an example) than I'd expect even a moster like that or let's as a Cap #1 to take a hit as well, although if those missing pieces didn't "affects the story" then in my opinion the FMV is debateable.

5 minutes ago, valiantman said:

I don't think it's necessarily the same for Tec 29, since that's still the 3rd Batman even without a cover.  Absolutely Tec 31 and 33 would be far lower valued as coverless books, they should cost about the same as a coverless Tec 32, except that a coverless Tec 31, 33, or Action 7, 10, 13 has the potential to be "revived" with a married cover, while a coverless Tec 32 can't become a Batman cover with its original replaced.

Very true that those examples "could be" revived but how often do we see a cover just by itself for those issues? I know currently there is a trimmed Batman 1 cover listed but that's not the front even then it's not the complete cover

Just now, valiantman said:

What's interesting about these keys is that the only difference between them and Action 8, 11, and 14 is the cover.  If you have coverless copies of Action 7, 10, or 13... you lose 100% of the thing that makes them keys.  I think those particular coverless books lose far more of their value than other books which are still keys without their covers.

Wouldn't that be the same for Tec 29, 31 (especially), 33 as well? But then a book like AF 15 or All-Star #8 may have more demand because of the character origin/appearance.

Obiviously, condition of the wraps, color and overall appearance plays a large part in the decision (as) does the book it's so let's assume we are talking about a book everyone would want in any condition if it were a CGC 0.5

- Action 1, 7, 10, 13 & Superman 1

- Detective 27 - 38, Batman 1

- All - Star Comics 3, 8

These are the examples to start, obviously you could consider SA keys as well or even more GA keys, but what factors make them appealing and with most missing wraps, pages, the discoloration etc. What is FMV when considering coverless keys?

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4 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Nice to see it so popular that qualified are worth springing for 

It will always be popular in my book, great cover, two iconic characters and a great first (story) meeting between the Hulk and Wolverine. Any chance I get to get one of these it’s a no brainer!! 

My newest acquisition of this great book. Goes along side my two other copies (Universal 3.5/4.5)

I’d take Fantastic Four #1 in that scenario just because impact it had for Lee & Kirby, and it’s impact building the Marvel universe further. It’s superheroes dealt with real world issues as real world people, team. It was 1961 before Spider-Man, Incredible Hulk, the Avengers etc. etc. it was that comic which paved the way.

Just picked these two up this morning both Disney, when I get to a scanner I will post better pictures.

and this very rare gem. 1936 40 page #945

Been a big week for me besides these two I picked up a Detective #32.

Green Lantern #0 is Atrocious.

 

I was dead on wrong about this one.

 

And I picked up 3 copies of this . It's okay I got my spawn 223 B&W while I was at the LCS.

Just acquired this for a very reasonable price - it's coverless but I don't care. Anyone have a cover??

If I'm correct it's missing the first wrap ....