Underground44

Why is Skyward so hot?

Which was the same announcement as last year. Actually, the announcement last year was a potential tv show. The announcement at Image Expo was confirmation the TV show is officially happening. Thankyou - been looking everywhere for that. It's hard to discuss this book for some reason. Is it that some are worried they have over bought, sold too early, have too few - but lets take the $ out of this. TWD - is a world-wide hit. No doubt, and surely no argument from anyone here. PP - I can only assume some haters haven't read it? It's a story 'loosely' based on Peter Pan. The Lost Boys are French resistance fighters - they kill, and get killed. Peter isn't superhuman. He doesn't actually fly. He is just looking for a lost love. The story is told through the eyes of the surviving Wolf Pack, many years later in post-war France. It's a tribute if you will, to the French Resistance in some ways - and as such is a story worth telling. It will appeal to all Europeans who's countries actually underwent that occupation only 70 odd years ago. The WW2 defences still stand in France, England, Holland etc, memorials are everywhere - WW2 is ingrained in the psyche of the European Nations as this happened to them. Of course it has interest. To suggest otherwise is disrespectful of the fallen of all nations. Rememberance day in Europe is huge, just like Gallipoli is to Australia. So, yes, it has relevance to a multitude of people - and the BBC, as said before, do the best period dramas in the world. Peter Pan is still loved by kids all over the world. It still has queues at every Disneyland, the book is still read by millions and is a staple in schools around the world. So it should appeal to young and old There will be a lot of people, who if it is marketed properly, will want to see this. The writing is genius. I am tempted to swap 'boring' for 'not-understood' in a few posts on here. Stick with it. It draws you in very quickly. Now add a comic with only 4814 copies printed (so knock off 1000 as gone forever), and add a thriving readership, add a motion comic starring Wood and Perlman - who have been in hit after hit. The comic will attract publicity from that and a confirmed BBC television series, add the fact that PP will be ongoing further than 25 issues and you have a highly desirable product on your hands. Hate if you want but to label WW2 as 'uninteresting' is quite frankly insulting. I'm invested in this comic and want it to succeed. I have explained why. Perhaps haters could expand their argument for the 'nay' so I and others can understand and not think its just pissy sour grapes because you are not in possession of one. I own 10 copies of #1 (6 of them slabbed), have been reading the series since day 1, and bought the first TPB for my daughter when it came out so she could enjoy it as well - but because I think it's insane to believe this series is going to be bigger than TWD, I'm a hater? :shrug: The motion comic means nothing - I know you want it to be a huge deal, I believe you referred to it as a "volcano" earlier on, but the sad truth is that nobody cares about motion comics. It doesn't matter who directs them, it doesn't matter who voices them, it doesn't matter how "motion-y" they are - they don't pull in non-comic-book people, they don't generate excitement and they're ignored by anyone who isn't already a die-hard fan. The motion comic trailer that came out back in May was linked on a single national website in their Comics section - it didn't even register on the radar of any mainstream media outlet. When Buffy - which is arguably one of the most popular teen TV shows of all time - can't generate any traction whatsoever for their motion comic, what makes you think that an unknown property like PP will succeed in that regard? As for the "confirmed BBC television series", well, I'm still looking for a link to a press release (or anything, really) that actually confirms that the BBC has committed to a full season of PP like you mentioned earlier - even though Wiebe himself said a week ago that no casting or production had happened on the live action show. The only thing I've been able to find, however, is the press release from October of last year. Even in the Image Expo interview you reference above, the "a live-action series in development at the BBC" bit links to that same year-old press release. Care to share the source for your info? Lastly ... Dr. Who is arguably, to your average slightly-nerdy American, the best known of the current BBC TV crop. Series 7 premiered to 1.5 million viewers in September of last year which was the highest ratings in BBC America history. In comparison, TWD delivered 12 million viewers for the season 3 finale. PP may very well end up airing on BBC who, as you so rightly point out, are terrific at historical dramas. It may even end up being a great show, well cast & beautifully produced (and, *spoon*, I hope that does end up being the case - I would love to see this series on TV). But it's never going to rival the TWD phenomenon. Ever. It can't be stressed enough how TWD has been the perfect storm when it comes to value on the secondary market. A critically-acclaimed comic book series that built up a fanatical following over almost a decade. Slow & steady growth in the market which allowed latecomers to get in on the action (and not be priced out immediately due to pre-TV show hype). And a fantastic TV show perfectly timed to coincide with the world's current fascination with zombies. If anyone thinks there's ANY current comic book that's ever going to mirror the ascent of TWD, they're fooling themselves. This is spot on. No one will EVER care about a motion comic.... EVER.

Which was the same announcement as last year. Actually, the announcement last year was a potential tv show. The announcement at Image Expo was confirmation the TV show is officially happening. Thankyou - been looking everywhere for that. It's hard to discuss this book for some reason. Is it that some are worried they have over bought, sold too early, have too few - but lets take the $ out of this. TWD - is a world-wide hit. No doubt, and surely no argument from anyone here. PP - I can only assume some haters haven't read it? It's a story 'loosely' based on Peter Pan. The Lost Boys are French resistance fighters - they kill, and get killed. Peter isn't superhuman. He doesn't actually fly. He is just looking for a lost love. The story is told through the eyes of the surviving Wolf Pack, many years later in post-war France. It's a tribute if you will, to the French Resistance in some ways - and as such is a story worth telling. It will appeal to all Europeans who's countries actually underwent that occupation only 70 odd years ago. The WW2 defences still stand in France, England, Holland etc, memorials are everywhere - WW2 is ingrained in the psyche of the European Nations as this happened to them. Of course it has interest. To suggest otherwise is disrespectful of the fallen of all nations. Rememberance day in Europe is huge, just like Gallipoli is to Australia. So, yes, it has relevance to a multitude of people - and the BBC, as said before, do the best period dramas in the world. Peter Pan is still loved by kids all over the world. It still has queues at every Disneyland, the book is still read by millions and is a staple in schools around the world. So it should appeal to young and old There will be a lot of people, who if it is marketed properly, will want to see this. The writing is genius. I am tempted to swap 'boring' for 'not-understood' in a few posts on here. Stick with it. It draws you in very quickly. Now add a comic with only 4814 copies printed (so knock off 1000 as gone forever), and add a thriving readership, add a motion comic starring Wood and Perlman - who have been in hit after hit. The comic will attract publicity from that and a confirmed BBC television series, add the fact that PP will be ongoing further than 25 issues and you have a highly desirable product on your hands. Hate if you want but to label WW2 as 'uninteresting' is quite frankly insulting. I'm invested in this comic and want it to succeed. I have explained why. Perhaps haters could expand their argument for the 'nay' so I and others can understand and not think its just pissy sour grapes because you are not in possession of one. Is this book aimed at kids? Most kids don't give a damn about Peter Pan. Do yours? I've owned 2 #1's and sold one for $220 and another for $265 and I bought them because of speculation from yourself Andy so I thank you for that... But I've never thought that PP was anything special. I read the first 4 issues and found it tough to get past the artwork and unappealing story line. WW2 is not uninteresting. WW2 + Peter Pan in comic book form is uninteresting IMO Not everyone who disagrees is a hater or someone who has never owned one. Just the same as not everyone who defends it has multiple copies or stands to get financial gain such as yourself. Just my opinion

Not looking to argue, but want to discuss this point. You state "PP has the potential to be even bigger because it is based on a subject matter that appeals to a broader audience." I assume you are talking about it being based on Peter Pan? This isn't necessarily aimed only at Mike's Rack, so please anyone chime in: Is Peter Pan really a broader audience than the zombie genre? its up there PP has huge international potential. if done right this will be huge ! Never going to happen. TWD changed everything and it's in the consciousness of ordinary "non collecting" people. Speculators drove the ridiculous prices on this book. No one will EVER give a rats azz about a motion comic no matter who is in it, directing it or wrote it. Anyone who thinks that anyone will even know about this book in 5 years is kidding themselves. WW2 and Peter Pan... Seriously?

what a waste for all that second, third, fourth , image first edition. shame on people doing that to win. What are you trying to say? The Registry is a checklist of all the available slabbed comics in a set. Why is it shameful to own all the books in a set? I'm very proud to have supported Revival enough to own every book, but 3 (not in the registry set yet), released. I might also add that I have every Uncanny X-men book from issue 300 to End including all but a few variants and reprints (I did have from 1 - end before I sold them a few years back). I've always liked thed variant chase. You should be proud to. That's an awesome achievement! (thumbs u

THIS is the main thing wrong with comic book collecting today. Buy what you like. Full stop.

What direction would that be? Every time a book comes out it's the new Walking Dead and speculators start buying up multiples or 100's of copies. Then people complain that there's too many variants that are driven by sales of the #1 issue? Or a movie/TV rumour is started that never eventuates (like the MAJORITY of them) or is total garbage ...Rinse and repeat.

Great book and brilliant signature placement!

I can understand why Andy wouldn't ship to Australia. The expense is a big issue to and from Canada to Australia and not worth the hassle to me either. At least he was straight up in his sales thread. He can post to where he wants... As for being strange - at least I know for sure Andy won't sodomize my dad

This thread is hilarious.Especially the people who 6 months ago everyone on here were predicting this book was dead in the water - including so called fans (speculators) of the book., Stop looking at this from a comic book nerd perspective. There are still new people that are just discovering TWD. This book will last a lot longer than most will think.... BTW, I have never owned a TWD #1 or any other issues.

Yes it is Beige... Um I mean Andy look who's the name changer now. It gets addictive.

It's only a disaster if you paid peak prices for it. If you paid cover you'll still do quite well.

Funny, but true story, this happened to me once. I was bidding on an item using my tablet, my wife's little niece was visiting, she'd seen me bidding and was all into it. When I stepped out on a run to the grocery store I was careless and did not lock my tablet, so she placed two or three bids on my behalf! Needless to say they were for more than I planned to pay, so I had to apologize to the seller. I was so You're still obligated to pay... Just sayin'. If you don't sign out of your ebay account it's your fault. Why should the seller have to go through the hassle of cancelling transactions etc.?

I reported them to ebay. Yeah good luck with that... Ebay could care less about shill bidding etc. in auctions. As long as they get their cut - that's all they care about

Image logos definitely fuel speculation. I agree that Rachel Rising is a brilliant book but because it doesn't sell well on the secondary market no-one gives a shlt about it on this forum. Having said that though I love Revival also.

+1 My favourite book that's out there at the moment.

Which one is you Ryan?

First arc... "Lock up your dads"

Which one is you? glasses, black shirt Looks different than I expected him to look You mean normal? No offense Jimmy (thumbs u

Love it! (thumbs u

Not even the slightest bit funny dude...

Very true..

What an absolute joke this thread and this book has become.

They would have surfaced on here if that were true..

Sorry Andy but that's a major oversight. At the risk of being unpopular.. Joey does his job well but his communication skills are seriously flawed IMO. He never lets you know what was done with each individual book and never contacts you unless you contact him first. Tony Stark from Comics in a flash - absolutely awesome. A fantastic communicator that kept in touch with me constantly. I never had any issues with how much anything was going to cost like I did with Joey. Joey even ignored all my paperwork that I sent in specifying some books to be fast tracked etc. All my books were submitted under the modern tier. At every stage (when books were pressed, when they were sent to CGC, when they were posted) Tony sent me a message. I was never left wondering. Joey might be suited to some but he isn't the messiah and there are other options out there. Just my humble opinion. i can understand what you are saying. sometimes you do have to stay in constant contact with joey for things to be done the way you want them. But you have to understand how many books and customers he has. andy, by himself, gave joey over 100 books. thats one guy. a lot of people use his services every week. You may receive better communication with other people, but, even though joey doesn't talk much, i trust him completely. he could mail in submissions like other but he takes time out of his already busy schedule to drive books to cgc to personally hand them submissions. he did forget to check the prescreen box, very understandable. like i said previously, he probably tried to make it up to andy, i dont know but i wouldnt throw it past him. Being busy is no excuse. I trust the other presser I work with completely. That goes without saying. Joey is making a lot of money and good luck to him. I just prefer to go elsewhere. There just doesn't seem to be any constructive criticism of his business model on here - at least publicly anyway.