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But what difference does it make if its a mystery box or a single issue? the difference is a mystery box is tougher to validate. Scenario 1: User A buys Action 1 from User B User A ends up with the stated book, User B ends up with correct ammount of $$$. Pretty straight forward. Issues might be around non-disclosed restoration, or grading disagreements, which can be raised, and dealt with. Scenario 2: User A buys one of 20 mystery boxes from User B who stated that one box would contain a Saga #1 RRP, the rest would be Image books worth $50 or so. User B keeps the RRP and doesnt put it in any of the 20 boxes. User A gets his books(no RRP) and assumes he didn't "win" the RRP, but the other 19 buyers also make the same assumption. How does this get checked? All it takes is 1 buyer to not reveal his mystery box contents for the Seller to say "and thats the one that got the RRP!" As others have said, buy from long standing users you trust and they arent going to sacrifice their board reputation for a few scammed bucks. Buy from a new seller with under 100 posts? Avoid....

What do you wanna know? BEST First Post ever... While some think that comic book creators are just interested in creating a property to turn into a TV/Movie deal, it is great to see so many creators maintain their close (but respectful) relationship with the comic book fan base that helps support them regardless of a books buzz for a Hollywood pickup. Twitter, and other social platforms (including message boards) create a great way to maintain that tie that, in the early goings of a book, may be one of the deciding factors of a book continuing on or getting back burnered. Nick thanks for dropping in, and the same thanks goes out to your compatriots who arevisiting this board, tweeting to fans and in general continuing to foster the comic book community that we share in. I really liked your Secret Avengers arc, one of the better tie-ins for Fear Itself. And Morning Glories has been a favorite from day one (reminds me of some classic Manga stories)

I agree its buyer beware, but if someone was pulling shenanagins with say selling restored books (non-disclosed) as unrestored, or showing a photo of one book and sending a lower grade one and not allowing returns then we'd be rallying around to run the seller out of town (or at least onto the Probie list)... it's like that. I dont think anyone is questioning Kev or Venom, but the other "mystery box" seller (whose name eludes me for the moment) was potentially pulling a fast one (saying book X would be in one of the boxes when it might not, and maybe even having a shill buyer take one of the boxes so they could collude that the book did actually change hands). 1 to 1 transactions are easier to ensure all parties are satisfied. Mystery boxes (especially when being sold in 20+ batches) are difficult to determine if the seller legitimately met his offer obligations or not since the buyers are spread around. When mystery boxes are all of equal value, there's far less worry of this. When there is a "big winner" type box, things start to get murkier (ie how do you verify that you actually had a 1 in however many chance for the book?)

and yeah I agree buying a mystery box from someone with no history, or little history, especially in a mystery box listing that is more lottery than mystery is a dumb decision on the buyers part too...

"Jackpot" style mystery boxes are ripe for shenanagins. (i.e. one box will include an Action Comics #1) because it ups the amount people are willing to pay for a "chance" at an outlier high price book. You get 30 people paying $100 a box, and then everyone who checks back in says "nope didnt get the Action" and the one guy who seems shilly says "oh yeah I got it, but I dont have a camera" or posts a stock picture? Shenanagins. More evenly distributed mystery boxes (value wise) are less apt to have that type of stuff pulled. Because every box has value to make it worth the price of playing. But trying to manage that is tough, and considering CGC didnt want to get into determining valid digital code sales vs invalid, I'd imagine they're going to err on the side of sweeping rule in one way or the other (all good, or all banned). Also if someone was pulling a fast one with mystery boxes how could they get PL nominated? How do the "make it right"? I could see it getting pretty "pitchfork"-y pretty fast if people think they've been had. Basic rules for Mystery Box listings: 1. Include picture of all items that will be distributed among boxes with your username & date. 2. Take pictures in your process of dividing up boxes/lots. What books ended up in what lots? 3. Be ready to reveal who got what if requested. 4. This is a mystery, not a raffle, not a lottery. No one should be expecting to "win big", just get items as described. Granted #4 is the most up for interpretation... but 1-3 should be pretty easy to make the stadard for mystery boxes, and still allow them to occur.

Would it be easier just to have the people who arent selling their Saga/ NoWhereMen/ PeterPanzerfaust books start threads, and we'll just assume everyone else has them for sale?

Selling my Infinity Gauntlet #1 CGC 9.6 SS Starlin Perez over in the marketplace> http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6357041#Post6357041

Listing this tonight: Infinity Gauntlet #1 7/91 Marvel Comics Signature 9.6 WHITE SIGNED BY JIM STARLIN & GEORGE PEREZ ON 9/2/12

I remember that day. I was off by 24 seconds. but then someone PIFed a great Green Lantern Sig book...

for about 2 seconds I thought "is there some sort of iPhone variant cover of this?"

Guy hasnt been online in a month (at least not here...) that does not bode well

Are they not consummating the deal? I dont think its a problem as long as the seller is up front about deal being offered and entered into.

I couldn't figure out if the 4% was worked in, or whether it was an add on. "I am asking for 4% for paypal payments." yeah its not 100% clear, but it sounds like the intent is 4% EXTRA. So 3% for paypal and an extra 1% for the seller? It is 4% for international I believe. Not that I'm defending this seller since i don't even know who or what this is about. that would explain it... if he wasn't located in Tuscon.. . but it is good to know!

maybe I'll list books super cheap but charge a 10% handling fee to got with a 8% paypal fee and a 12% Ticketmaster Service charge... oh and a $5 invoice fee.

I couldn't figure out if the 4% was worked in, or whether it was an add on. "I am asking for 4% for paypal payments." yeah its not 100% clear, but it sounds like the intent is 4% EXTRA. So 3% for paypal and an extra 1% for the seller?

so there's a sales thread asking for 4% to cover Paypal fees... arent paypal fees 2.9% plus $.30 per transaction? Or is there some sort of sliding scale for bigger ballers?

great comission dscott! Here's my latest add this week a Lady in White delivered via eBay from the great white north Sinister House of Secret Love #1 Well centered and well presenting despite its lowly 7.5 grade... ps thanks CGC for being careful enough in the label placement in the slab, thats only going to annoy me forever...

Anyone know? Was Charlton distributed most widely thru grocery stores and therefor adopted the UPC thing earlier?

I think Charlton is the winner, looks like Gold Key and Harvey didnt adopt until after DC/Marvel...

And I see Charlton using them as early as October of '75

Do Digest's count? I see an Archie Comic Digest from Feb of '76 showing a UPC... of course they were more distributed in grocery stores so that'd make sense.

Marvel releases from Jun '76 had them and it looks like DC in May of '76 did too... not sure which specific book hit the stands first... or did other publishers use the UPCs before that?

Going on vacation for 5 days with the family when I come back I'll start going thru my crazy shelves of TPBs, HCs and more to put together a birthday sales thread for Feb 6, complete with games, give aways, and a mystery box or two.... not everything shown will be sold, but I need to clean up this mess!

And just a few days later here it is, all scanned in and pretty... New Lady in White: Dracula Edition Dracula Lives (Magazine) CGC 8.0 Sweet Neal Adams cover action Im also happy to have it with White pages...

New Lady in White: Dracula Edition Dracula Lives (Magazine) CGC 8.0 Sweet Neal Adams cover action