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WernerVonDoom

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    ASM #252 CGC 9.8 Record Sale - something fishy going on? - Holder Tampering Incident confirmed by CGC

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    Well fellow collectors, CGC is unfortunately washing their hands of tampered books that have not been re-holdered. No guarantee. No instruction. No advice.

    Looks like we need to do it ourselves. We need 1) a list of books that have been touched by known scammers, 2) examples of cases that have been tampered with, 3) instructions for detecting tampering.

    Pipedream, but it would also be nice if CGC offered a cheap review/re-holder/re-number for suspected books.

    ASM #252 CGC 9.8 Record Sale - something fishy going on? - Holder Tampering Incident confirmed by CGC

    in Comics General

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    On 2/10/2024 at 4:57 AM, comicwiz said:

    Your book was listed twice by seller zaneglor, if any tampering occurred, it would have been prior to the first time it appeared in Dec 2019. 

    Fantastic Four (1961) #2 CGC 7.5

    1. Seller: zaneglor Cert: 1393412006 [12/3/2019] - $5,655

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    2. Seller: zaneglor Cert: 1393412006 [2/5/2020] - $5,500

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    I think the original grade date was in 2019. I should have saved a screenshot. 

    ASM #252 CGC 9.8 Record Sale - something fishy going on? - Holder Tampering Incident confirmed by CGC

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    On 2/9/2024 at 6:26 PM, comicguy123 said:

    Looks like the Fantastic Four book cgc7.5 was on ebay sold  on Feb 6,2020. Has that book you see there, in the holder. Same book.

    I bought it in July 2020 locally. If I had to guess, someone bought the impacted book on eBay then it changed hands once or twice because they were worried about price drop (covid).