roulette44

not too shabby!

I don't understand why some have such passion to bash the DCEU movies - I find them outstanding and only getting better with time. There will always be people who don't like it, but $700M at the box office without even a China contribution says a lot! I think the comment about the movie doing $1B+ easy if it were done differently is a huge reach. With respect, this is a no name title with few well known actors (will smith may be A list, I don't know, but many blockbusters feature multiple names!). And yet - $700M under its belt and on the way to a $750 cume. Yet here we get posts like - it's probably still losing money - it should have done a billion - it sucked and the box office is irrelevant I just don't get it....... What I cared most about was the movies did well enough that the momentum would continue so we could get more of these great movies. And I don't think that's debateable at this point!! WW movie JLA movie MOS 2 Bats solo Green lantern JLA2 + others AWESOME :whee:

Good luck friend. I know it's difficult, but try not to let the situation affect your long term....especially on the boards!

$750 might be a stretch, but $730-$740 seems within reach. Such a shame about china, this movie would have come within striking distance of BvS!

Only halo book i ever bought was a 4.0 showcase 4 that was immediately obviously restored (and beyond slighty too). visible without even cracking the darn thing. Returned it so fast, barry allen would have broken a sweat trying to catch the dam thing. And the conflicts exist all over the hobby, but I still think this is worse, because there isn't an accountability mechanism even among the people who work there (versus a larger house like cgc, voldy) joey

Thank you sir. Upgraded my showcase 7 after a few years of trying....challs set still not nearly as nice as yours though

At the risk of beating a dead horse, my response to both you & Bosco on the better inflation numbers is this: Regardless of the true consumer inflation rate, we _can_ actually approximate the measure of how much people want to spend their discretionary income on a movie. Here's how: - Iron Man was one of only 3 films released in 2008 to break $300 million domestic. - It was the 26th movie _ever_ to hit that number. - Since then, the number of films to break $300 million domestic has more than doubled, to 64. - 15 of those 64 (i.e., nearly 25%) have been released just last year or this. And (as rjrjr noted), Suicide Squad is the _8th_ film to break that threshold this year alone (avg. 1 per month). - So clearly hitting $300 million is now becoming commonplace for blockbusters, whereas it was still a rarity back in 2008. - We've gone from 3 films a year in 2008 and 2009 to (now) 7-8 films a year (2015-2016). So...while Iron Man's doing so in 2008 wasn't unique, it was a hell of a lot rarer and thus, far more successful, than Suicide Squad's being the 8th film to do so in just 8 months. I appreciate that logic, though It's a bit of a stretch in my view. What if Suicide squad just happened to be the first film (it came out in 2008 and Iron Man came out in 2016. Anyhow, I was never arguing suicide squad being a more compelling franchise than Iron Man. Quite the opposite - I'm pleasantly surprised at its success notwithstanding the relatively unknown nature of the characters and poor reviews. This furthers the cause of the DCEU movies - Wonder Woman and JLA in particular! JD

Well done Joey - something was definitely fishy with that listing. Thanks, I'm sure lots to thank, though! Takes an army to bring down these scumbags!

, can't believe I did that. A whole lot of fist sandwiches :shrug:

Thanks!

Bosco offers a great answer here. My comment earlier was reflecting on the true definition of inflation (underlying purchasing power of goods) on a relative basis. Because on an absolute basis (ticket prices), we don't reflect the measure of how much people really want to spend their discretionary income on the item (in this case, a movie). Normally, I wouldn't nitpick something like this, but when combined with no china numbers being included, it's seemed that Suicide Squad wasn't gettin a fair shake. Moreover, the economic meltdown of 2009ish reduced relative wealth and wage growth (incomes went down not up) and so a more accurate real inflation measure over the 6 years would be something like 20% (maybe less). Not going to get into the calculation (have to roll up weighted average by country and compare to the receipts for the movies), but was merely saying the inflation measure is a bit oversimplified. And finally, no, I'm not comparing suicide squad to iron man at all. I think iron man is the more impressive movie franchise. BUT, that makes my point even more glaring - that suicide squad has drawn this kind of crowd notwithstanding it's relatively unknown status. Cheers Jd

Reported and down now. These dumb theives and scammers need to go find a whole somewhere.....

Your stats about Iron Man are wrong on three counts: 1) Iron Man took in $586 million worldwide. Adjusted for inflation, that's $746 million in today's dollars. Call me when SS reaches that number. 2) Iron Man took in $318 million domestic, which is $384 million in today's dollars. Ditto. 3) Even given those numbers, as Bosco's charts have shown, it's impossible to compare worldwide totals from 8 years ago to those of today, as the international box office has hugely expanded over that time. True adjustment for inflation would be well less than your numbers. And the expansion of theatres is more than offset by China.

Care to explain why you regretted submitting your books to them? Was it because they came back graded too loose or tighter than what you were led to believe by most comments here? Or was it due to slow turnaround times, poor communications, insecure packaging for shipping, etc? Or was it simply because they did not look nice and were not compatible with the rest of your slabs since the others are all CGC slabs? Your post just left a lot of unanswered questions that should probably be clarified a bit more. By the tone and context I presumed that he simply got a disappointing, cut-rate price for the slabs when he tried to sell.... -J. Another opportunity to jab. You never miss one, even it means speaking for others. +1, low blow J Huh? Then you may want to steer completely clear of this thread : http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9538857&fpart=1 -J. This is called tilting at a windmill with a palm leaf in hand trying to do mortal combat. I'm starting to think you own stock in Voldy. I suppose, in a way you do. You know, they do have some semblance of a chat board up now, right ? Maybe you and roulette44 can meet up over there and say hi to each other and the 3 other people on there ? -J. I own no stock in Voldy but do have good friends who work there. I am happy to talk about negative and positives about both companies but as Roulette stated your attacks are baseless. ..as are your (and his) hyperbolic characterizations of my stated opinions about their labels, grading "consistency", prices realized compared to CGC slabs, resto disclosure/classification, etc. Oh wait...sounds like I actually have quite a few "bases" for my "attacks" after all. Go figure... Need another one? Exhibit 275,409- Those two "equally graded" 2.0 copies of AF 15 on Comic link. Meanwhile you seem to continuously jump to Voldy's defense (on a CGC chat board no less) as if they were your cheating girlfriend. You have buddies that work there? Good for you. Perhaps you're the biased one. I'll state my opinions when and how I please. Feel free to do the same. Just spare me the self-righteous lectures. -J. Just learn how to take 1% of what you dish - and stop making stuff up. Your accusations alone are beyond frustrating. If it were just Roy and I, I know I certainly would reflect on things. But it's way beyond that, junior. JD

They don't seem to be doing well. I think that a standard needs to be established between the grading companies for what is acceptable resto or not, so that issues like these igb or the like books can be resolved. I'm a big fan of restored books, but not EP. Big difference!!

Care to explain why you regretted submitting your books to them? Was it because they came back graded too loose or tighter than what you were led to believe by most comments here? Or was it due to slow turnaround times, poor communications, insecure packaging for shipping, etc? Or was it simply because they did not look nice and were not compatible with the rest of your slabs since the others are all CGC slabs? Your post just left a lot of unanswered questions that should probably be clarified a bit more. By the tone and context I presumed that he simply got a disappointing, cut-rate price for the slabs when he tried to sell.... -J. Another opportunity to jab. You never miss one, even it means speaking for others. +1, low blow J Huh? Then you may want to steer completely clear of this thread : http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9538857&fpart=1 -J. This is called tilting at a windmill with a palm leaf in hand trying to do mortal combat. I'm starting to think you own stock in Voldy. I suppose, in a way you do. You know, they do have some semblance of a chat board up now, right ? Maybe you and roulette44 can meet up over there and say hi to each other and the 3 other people on there ? -J. I'm a cgc fan, that's why I'm here. I just don't relentlessly offer baseless attacks at everyone else in the hobby. I think at the moment I own less than 20 non-cgc slabs, out of my 1,500 in total (and top 20 registry portfolio set). As I've told you countless times, baseless attacks on any company in the hobby, is bad for the hobby. If you want to debate a point - bring data, bring fact, bring healthy tension. And accept the fact from time to time you'll be wrong. In this particular episode of jaydog gets his panties in a bunch - you clearly put words in someone else's mouth (slanderous ones at that). You get called out on it, and to defend yourself, call attention to an unrelated thread (or, peripherally related at best), serving to do nothing but confuse the issue. I'm literally afraid I'm going to wear this emoticon down to nothing from overuse with you.

It only needs $14.5MM to hit the $300MM Domestic Box Office mark (two weeks?). To hit the $700MM Worldwide Box Office, it needs $60.8MM (three weeks to include Japan's 9/10 release). It should break even by then. -J. I know it hurts - but you would think you're used to being so wrong so often by now (thumbs u Yes, I feel really inadequate for not having accurately predicted the gross of this craptastic movie to the nearest hundred million. -J. Inadequate? Yes, certainly. But don't forget pathetic too, please! If you have an issue with me for some reason , might I suggest taking it to a PM, rather than continuously making an a-hole out of yourself publicly ? -J. I guess we need to add clueless to the list too. You post your nonsense ad nauseum, and when called out on it, start whining. Hmmm......I find that amusing.

Care to explain why you regretted submitting your books to them? Was it because they came back graded too loose or tighter than what you were led to believe by most comments here? Or was it due to slow turnaround times, poor communications, insecure packaging for shipping, etc? Or was it simply because they did not look nice and were not compatible with the rest of your slabs since the others are all CGC slabs? Your post just left a lot of unanswered questions that should probably be clarified a bit more. By the tone and context I presumed that he simply got a disappointing, cut-rate price for the slabs when he tried to sell.... -J. Another opportunity to jab. You never miss one, even it means speaking for others. +1, low blow J Huh? Then you may want to steer completely clear of this thread : http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9538857&fpart=1 -J. here i was, thinking you couldn't possibly get more dense. 'foiled again!

It only needs $14.5MM to hit the $300MM Domestic Box Office mark (two weeks?). To hit the $700MM Worldwide Box Office, it needs $60.8MM (three weeks to include Japan's 9/10 release). It should break even by then. -J. I know it hurts - but you would think you're used to being so wrong so often by now (thumbs u Yes, I feel really inadequate for not having accurately predicted the gross of this craptastic movie to the nearest hundred million. -J. Inadequate? Yes, certainly. But don't forget pathetic too, please!

marvel 1 - easy decision for me. if the gold forumites voted exclusively,i have a feeling M1 wins. But add the CG crowd (where the next movie dictates popularity) and Cap 1 will take the reins.

It only needs $14.5MM to hit the $300MM Domestic Box Office mark (two weeks?). To hit the $700MM Worldwide Box Office, it needs $60.8MM (three weeks to include Japan's 9/10 release). It should break even by then. -J. I know it hurts - but you would think you're used to being so wrong so often by now (thumbs u

DC nation! Wonder Woman will do $1B. JLA will do more.

what a great looking 5 not a great looking 5.0 in my view....lots of issues along the spine. average 5.0 at best .....

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