...It tooks me a long time to find it and finally someone here on the boards (I would be able to REMEMBER who sold it to me if the PM limit hadn't caused me to prematurely delete all my PMs) sold it to me a year and half or so ago. It has a lot of intangible for me!

I need to add that Horrors book to my want list!!

After the big three, there are another half-dozen or so Cole sci-fi covers, and here's one of my favorites from the "b-side". It should be noted that this book was also printed in Canada, but the cover coloring is different...in a bad way.

Here's one that's not seen too often, love the bright colors on the black background!

drbanner,

Any good reason why that MM#48 was only graded at a 3.5? It looks sweet! It looks like you could sell it as a raw 6.0 and get no complaints.

One reason - detached cover! If you look closely at the staple, you can sort of tell. However, there's no paper missing, the cut is nice and clean, you can still see the staple, and the cover looks "tight" to the book.

This arrived this weekend...classic Schomburg D-day cover. Not bad for a CGC 3.5!!

HULK IS THE STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!!! HULK HATE STUPID POLL! HULK SMASH!!!!

A round of overdue Kudosees go out to:

wrcomics

CaptainsOfIndustry

nikos61

davidking

JC

HighVoltage

cicamen

pedigreecomics

Rip

Rickdogg ( )

awe4one

wasonff

steve_hocp (are you still "back"?)

greggy

I believe I've had multiple transactions with everyone listed above, with nary a problem to be found!!

The boards continue to be a great networking resource for everyone here, so I again throw out a special, bonus Kudos to CGC for providing this venue for us!!

I've picked up a few mid grade CGC copies at under guide prices (pre code horror under guide!?!) on ebay, thanks to the 9.4 craze.

 

Yeah, in the latest issue of my fanzine I note in the market report how there are many great pre-code horror deals right now. In part due, in my opinion, to the recent frenzy in the BA horror area, especially HG DC material. Also, I hope it is somewhat of a "market correction", coming down from the balloon-inflation pre-code craze of the mid-late 1990's. Let's pray this continues to last!!!

Are the actual prices of pre-code books coming down, or is it just that the guide has finally caught up with the market, and you no longer have to pay "multiples"?

The only pre-code horror I collect (for now!) are LB Cole covers, and they have come down a bit in cost over the last 5 years, so I'm just wondering if the same is true for EC's, etc.,.

Our team says 18.6!

You can sort of see the right edge of the inner cover up near the price circle...

That's awesome Vince!!

I may have a decent Detective 425, I'll try to post a scan this evening...

We should set up a trading network so that we can all fill our runs. I'm sending a bunch of HG doubles to Shiv, but I've got more coming in all the time.

 

I'm all for that, because with these collecti-flippers and folks recognizing the cost effectivness of these books, it will soon be a free-for-all. Don't bother with the marketplace, either my friends.

 

I just sent my mid-grades to shiver, but I have a few multiples in high CGC grade. Anyone want to trade PM me!

Sounds like a novel idea, and here's what I have to offer for trade:

Dark Mansion of Forbidden Love CGC 9.2 (White Pages)

DC Special 4 CGC 9.2 (Neal Adams Mystery cover)

House of Mystery 212 NM (Kaluta cover)

House of Mystery 224 NM/NM- (100 page, Wrightson/Adams)

Super DC Giant 23 CGC 9.4 (Unexpected, Top Census)

Unexpected 106 CGC 9.4 (Top Census)

Weird War Tales 2, 4, 5 (all about VF)

And here's what I'm looking for (NM- or better unless noted, may consider nice looking VF/NM's):

House of Mystery 175, 178, 179, 183, 186, 187, 189, 191, 192, 203, 221

House of Secrets 81, 84, 86, 89

Phantom Stranger 3, 4, 9, 10

Tomahawk 117, 118, 119, 121, 128, 129 (VF/NM ok on these)

Unexpected 111, 112, 114, 121, 124

Witching Hour 2, 4, 8, 15

mrwoogieman would be my first choice in any grading competition in which I was a captain of a team and he was part of an available draft pool, because, although I don't know mrwoogieman and have not had any dealings with him whatsoever, from reading his posts I inherently know that he's first rate. If I were to be absent or otherwise incapacitated from selecting a draftee, I would without hesitation give UV or anyone else running a grading competition like that full authority to add mrwoogieman to my team.

 

Yeah, I agree he would make a great addition to any potential grading team that might be formed in the future!

And where does it say that? Page?

Gosh...hard to remember the page...just click on "show all" and read the entire thread again, I'm sure you'll find it in there somewhere?

mrwoogieman would be my first choice in any grading competition in which I was a captain of a team and he was part of an available draft pool, because, although I don't know mrwoogieman and have not had any dealings with him whatsoever, from reading his posts I inherently know that he's first rate. If I were to be absent or otherwise incapacitated from selecting a draftee, I would without hesitation give UV or anyone else running a grading competition like that full authority to add mrwoogieman to my team.

Yeah, I agree he would make a great addition to any potential grading team that might be formed in the future!

No doubt House of Mystery 174 paved the way for the resurgence of mystery books. I do however have no informaiton surrounding the Infantino/Adams collaboration on the 174 cover...any information from the collective would be very interesting...

 

This has been discussed before, and the conclusion was no Adams. However, it looks suspiciously like Adams to me.

 

If it was not Adams then why would he have personally signed the cover....

 

You guys might have discussed and dismissed but obviously adams believed he worked on it.

I didn't personally dismiss it as I recall the book being noted as an Adams cover by sellers on ebay back in 98/99, regardless of OS's notations (and they did backtrack on his art credits on Our Army at War 244, so they are mere, fallable mortals), as well as the fact it looks like Adams. OS doesn't note the cover artist, and the GCD notes it as:

Cover Credits:

Carmine Infantino (Pencils) George Roussos (Inks) ? (Colors) ? (Letters)

Also, Neal Adams own checklist doesn't list it, although I have to wonder if Spyda compiled the list from published references (before asking his dad to do another Green Lantern sketch so he could sell it on ebay for $600-800) as opposed to Neal compiling the list from memory and/or some official payment records.

That said...let's see that cover proof!

No doubt House of Mystery 174 paved the way for the resurgence of mystery books. I do however have no informaiton surrounding the Infantino/Adams collaboration on the 174 cover...any information from the collective would be very interesting...

This has been discussed before, and the conclusion was no Adams. However, it looks suspiciously like Adams to me.

Yeah, I guess it's a case of the age old problem of no demand = no supply. I do know that the Manitoba Collection had multiples of all the later issues of all the horror titles in high grade, but very few pre-1972/1973 books in high grade, although the books were in the collection.

I know bronze horror is currently hot, but his insinuation was that all books from '80 to '85 are going to jump in the next few years the way silver did around 1990, and bronze did around 2000. By 1980 comics were being sold thru comic book shops, and people were taking care of their books, so there will simply not be the scarcity of quality material that Silver and (early) Bronze collectors discovered when they started trying to recover the books they bought off the newstand 25 years earlier.

The scarcest Bronze horror in grade is the late 60/early 70's books, not the late 70's/early 80's books...

(Geez...I'm starting to sound like The Professor and The Madman!! )

Yep, I read it and he comments on the apparent scarcity of '77-'84 horror comics in high grade. Another interesting/related comment was that in general, comics from '80 to '85 are heating up, and how historically when comics hit the 20-25 year level prices go up due to the collectors "...getting older and coming into more funds."

Anyone think that's gonna happen with post-1980 books? Doug notes that late-70's books now guide at around $10, but the early 80's books only guide at $2-5 and may have room to grow. I'm skeptical about this myself, but there's definitely a current demand for 25/30/35-cent books (pre-80) at current guide prices...

Which books will be listed first? When will subsequent batches start?

I've been in and out of town all summer and that trend will continue until school starts up next month, so contingency plans may be needed to place emergency bids!

Holy Moly DrBanner!!!....when you say 9.6 you really mean it....thanks for the nice book via eBay...

Kudos back at ya...and to:

Pimpy

Thunderkitten

Davidking

Teen_Titans

shiverbones

chromium

qualitycomix

for recent seamless transactions as well!

Yeah, the book appears to be majorly mis-folded. Seems to be a rather common defects on early-mid 60's Marvels. Or maybe it's just me...

DB,

 

I disagree. I believe it is definitely a post production cut, and I have seen many like this. I think it's a variation on the "return to distributor" cut that many retailers did upon return of unsold copies. What you have with the Heritage Cap book (Hitler cover) is a classic example of the "Golden Age exemption".

 

divad

No, I'm pretty convinced now that it is definitely a production-related defect. CGC may be more lenient on Golden Age books, but I would be shocked if they didn't consider this a production-related defect when assigning that book a grade of 7.0/7.5 (resub).

In fact, it's quite similar to the little corner chipping defect I pictured above for bronze age books, only the pieces are completed detached instead of hanging on by a thread (although I've seen plenty of bronze age books where the pieces are detached).

Do you collect Golden Age Timelys? What kinds of books have you "seen many like this" on?

Timely/Steve - what say ye on this matter of much import - production related or no??