divad

Sex Sells.

I have a specific Paypal bank account + credit card, at a bank totally unaffiliated to my primary bank/account, as linking your main financial account to Paypal is insane and just looking for trouble. Hey! Watch out for that truck!

Yes. Unless I'm the one sellin' them . . .

Aye, there's the rub.

Totally understandable, although that could point to a certain amount of lack of communication. Two of my Modern keys have been purchased through pre-sale (yes, through Jeff), and I won't hesitate to use his services again. Each to their own I suppose. After waiting many years for a copy for my collection to appear, I could probably wait out the duration of a pre-sale book transaction to finalize. After waiting 35 to 40 years to have a book graded, I could probably wait another 3-4 weeks to actually receive it before listing it for sale . . .

Nomination duly noted.

Agreed. Pre-sales are stoopid. A lot can happen before you have books in hand. There have been instances here where a Boardie buys a book in one thread, and then re-sells it in another (even using the OP's scans!) before he has even received the book.

None of which would have been made public. No one here is not on your side.

Filing a paypal case and demaninding a refund seems pretty clear to me the transaction will not proceed. 30 days to get a package works for me too. I guess I misunderstood the purpose of the probie thread. I thought I was giving other sellers a heads up That's what the probation discussion thread is for. The Probation Thread is where deadbeats are permanently chronicled.

No. If the paypal dispute is finished before 30 days have passed, the buyer goes on the list then. Period. You know, you talk before you think quite a bit.

Yep, my guess is that he will do nothing and go on the list. Better yet, PayPal will rule against him.

As much as Jeff may appreciate it, these kind of comments are meaningless.

The "buyer" will be put on the list, if in fact, he posted an and didn't pay or resolve the matter with the seller after 30 days. Period.

That's not what happened here. The buyer made inflammatory and accusatory claims to pay pal regarding the sellers honesty. He did not contact anyone about emergency bills coming due. He agreed to a deal, agreed to it again with clarified terms and then set off to burn the seller down with pay pal. There's no need to become a revisionist here. Why should anyone have to wait 30 days when the buyer has no intention of buying as evidenced by the pay pal charge back. This isn't a situation with someone shipping slowly and waiting the 30 days to get a package. This isn't a situation with a person ignoring PM's or Emails and you give them the 30 days to answer. If the other party in your transaction makes it 100% clear they are not going to perform on day one, as the buyer here did, there is NO point is waiting another month. That's what the list is for, when a deal is failed they get put on the list and given a chance to do the right thing by the person they wronged. An extra 29 days isn't going to undo the pay pal charge back. Standing on ceremony here is futile and fruitless. These are all valid points, but you act as though the PayPal "chargeback" (which it isn't, btw, it's a dispute) is instantaneous (it isn't.) The dispute is not settled. When the dispute settles, or after 30 days, the seller can request that the "buyer" be put on the list. I really don't see the fanfare, except that the seller may be ticked off big time.

I prefer torches myself. tar

As "requested" It's a community service. Thanks for stepping up to the plate (you just acted a tad too quickly)

Just for the record, Divad doesn't make the final decision to put someone on the Probation List; it's up to the complainant. That's correct . . . I'm just a scrivener

Yes it will junior, yes it will . . .

Happens to the best of us . . .

Announcements posing as sales threads. Max time allowed before listings start? 30 minutes? Discuss. Sales threads posing as announcements (while we're at it) Both are against the rules.

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Which, of course, is why it was set up like that in the first place.

I usually get my stuff in about a week too, but there is the odd package that Canada Customs takes a special interest in, and the delay can be 1-2 weeks or more. I guess there's a backlog right now, so if a package gets tagged, it can easily take over 2 weeks to get here. 30 days for sellers and 10 days for buyers seems logical to me. 30 days is way too long for intra-country shipments. Otherwise this sounds fine to me. Realistically, I expect payment within 3 days, and I expect shipments within 10 days, probably because that's all I'm willing to allow myself. It comes down to this: If you don't have the money, or access to it, then don't post the little guy. And if your too lazy to ship efficiently then take it to eBay.

Priority in the States is 3 days, rarely longer.

3/3/10 PROBATION LIST UPDATE THE HALL OF SHAME The following Board Members have been elected by the community to the Probation List's "Hall of Shame" for gross misconduct as members in the Marketplace Forum: Herald2Galactus (Inaugural Member & 1st "Hall of Shame" Member) gilbertotorres (added 11/5/08 - 2nd "Hall of Shame" Member) ComicSupply (added 10/28/08 - 3rd "Hall of Shame" Member) CAP freak (added 5/21/09 - 4th "Hall of Shame" Member) AlleyBat aka BucOne aka WolfHulk aka Roxx Gang aka MarkWeb aka lastyle7 (added 5/23/08 - 5th "Hall of Shame" Member) and (added 3/24/09 - 7th "Hall of Shame" Member) TFL (added 6/2/09 - 6th "Hall of Shame" Member) THE PROBATION LIST The following Board Members are currently on "Probation" for failure to complete a Marketplace Forum transaction in good faith after one month's time: (mishu2nite added) aaron568 (added 11/6/08) BATMANFAN (added 2/9/10) bkwon12 (added 10/08/09) brasseye (added 7/2/09) bronzejunkie (added 3/26/07) Chrissr (added 12/22/09) clobberintime (added 11/7/07) comicmankev (added 3/27/07) DarkKnight2K4 (added 4/24/08) donavan74 (added 3/27/07) erbdom (added 12/08/09) Ghastly (added by majority vote 12/3/07) Henchman (added 4/25/08) HGComics (added 10/7/09) Jmarch51 (added 2/14/08) Lighthouse (added 6/13/07) Marc Wolfe (added 9/15/08) matewan1990 (added 3/3/08) mishu2nite (added 3/3/10) mjacobs8 (added 1/24/09) Nascar (added 6/2/07) NEXTLVL (added 10/12/08) rza808 (added 12/29/08) Sid (added 8/8/07) SilverSlinky (added 11/20/09) SIXX_VAN_ROSE (added 11/7/08) SpiderJay300 (added 9/15/07) Superman20 (added 12/18/07) Taz007 (added 7/15/09) THATONEGUY (added 1/11/08) TVanderZwaag (added 6/23/09)