Kevin Boyd

Got this in NYC. Scan is terrible, sorry. Auction starts this afternoon.

Pete's photo diary of his trip to Columbus: Byrne... or Bryne... rhymes with wine.... I like wine! Hmmm.... where'd I put those stupid books? They gotta be here somewhere. Where are my organizers? Nope. Not here... Maybe over here? Nope. How about over here? Nope. I could swear I just saw them! I need to lie down and think... just need to rest... Hey bay-bee! I'm up for anything! Meanwhile back in Toronto on Monday: Chris? Beyonder? Hey, where'd he go? I gotta take a leak. ... no offense meant. Kev

Chris said on Friday... "by this time tomorrow my books will be signed"... ...Peter said he was wrong... ...because they weren't signed by that time on Saturday... ...do you get the punchline yet?

He won't be in at all today. He's probably sleeping off his Mid-Ohio bender! What did you want to know again?

I imagine Chris has spent the night shaking and cursing due to your vague responses. You mentioned on the phone that Byrne said something like "What is this, 1983?" when referring to his non-diminishing line at the con on Saturday.

Shhhh... just ignore the faint aroma of Molson Canadian...

I remember seeing some Sgt. Fury's that were signed by Ayers a year+ ago getting Purple labels - they all had some color touch on them

What's a signiture series? Oh, you mean a signature series... your books should be in Columbus by now... That pic kind of looks like you. Just needs a baseball hat.

For mattewan1990

Well there you go! Did you think you when you suggested this category this morning that it would exist later that same day? Thanks Arch!

1. Already been established by Overstreet, as per Arnold. 2. Yes. I think there is. Most forumites started collecting in that era, so there's definitely familiarity. The best book of the 80's thread in comics general would be quite at home in a Copper Forum.

Okay, okay.... we all pretty much agree we need a Forum for post-Bronze, non-recent books! Overstreet calls it Copper, we might as well do the same here. Anyone listening?

More like 1997-98, but here goes: 1. Marvel Knights 2. Heroes Return 3. Grant Morrison's JLA "return of the big 7" Copper ends with a bang with Kingdom Come in 1996... putting down all of the changes wrought by Copper - revisions, costume changes, revamps, image style characters, etc. - looking forward to a new generation of changes with traditional heroes leading the charge. Reflecting a similar longing for changes in Astro City, Kesel's Daredevil... and so on. Heroes Reborn is an awful revival attempt but spawns a more traditional approach to Marvel heroes with Busiek's Avengers and Iron Man, Claremont's FF and Waid's Captain America. Smith and Quesada revive Daredevil, Ennis revives Punisher. Morrison's JLA revives a higher octane style of storytelling featuring DC's big characters with the dynamics of former Vertigo sensibilities. Shreck is brought in to revive Batman when O'Neil retires. Overall, the industry is perceived as being "in recovery" from the crash of the 1990's. Image founders have gone back to the plantation... Sandman, the great Vertigo experiment is pretty much done as Preacher is the new Vertigo book and displays none of the sensibilities that Vertigo's editor Karen Berger wants her comics to be about. And there are other things which I can't recall off the top of my head.

I can agree with you on the starting year, just not the choice of a final year. I still think comics ages are falling into 14 year cycles.. Gold 1939-1953 Atomic 1953-1956 (the exception) Silver 1956-1970 Bronze 1970-1984 Copper 1984 - 1998 ?? 1998-2012.

I'm all for adding a Copper Age forum to cover books published in the 80's and most of the 90's. There are still some debates raging on when it starts and ends though. Then Modern would continue doing what it is already doing, discussing new books.

Nothing at all is "silver" about 40 year old paper. The "Golden Age" of anything... like radio, television, comics, newspapers, etc. tends to refer to the start of something great that has since gone on to be an institution. The "Silver Age" of anything, refers to the next great expansion of something after the end of what is generally considered to be the "Golden Age". It could just as easily be called the second great era of comic books. It does not simply mean "the 60's". The "Bronze Age" refers to the next age of comics after the end of the silver age, there is still a fair amount of dissention over when it ended. As with Olympic medals, "bronze" is used to designate third place - or the third great era of super-hero comics. It does not simply mean "the 70's". The three eras combined covers 40+ years of time, not just three decades worth of comics. The designations are used to signify shifts in content, increases in sales and interest, new concepts, etc. You can refer to the comics of the 80's as "the 80's" if you want, ditto for "the 90s". The question of ages that is before is, essentially, was there a fourth great era (or wave) of titles after the end of the third great age of comics? One that signified a shift in content, a change in sales patterns, introduction of new concepts, etc. Kev

What about "millions of years of aquatic creatures". Then again, those are really age designations. We should just call them the "hundred millions". Kev

I vote that we get rid of the Cretaceous era, the Xenezoic Era, etc. and start calling them by their proper names... "millions of years of fish", "millions of years of dinosaurs", etc. I mean, who the heck is going to remember how to spell Cretaceous anyway? Everyone loves dinosaurs and fish. Kev

We've discussed this a lot actually, if you have some time you should check out the which book ended the bronze age and related thread titles in the Bronze and Modern categories. Modern is a term currently covering 1980 books to the present, but the general feeling is that modern is a designation to be saved for recent comics, so that if an age (or ages) get slipped in between 1980 and 2003 then the books that came out between the end of that age and today will remain "modern". Kev

Chuck's Mile High Comics website has a lot of information on which books have Whitman variants that he's come across. No list per se, but if you check out each title individually he will list the variant issues if he knows about them. Kev

I'm not worried, or bothered really. The situation just seemed really familiar. Kev

I've been reading through the posts on this thread, and many of them are quite creative but as I read them I've felt a chill down my spine and an awful feeling of deja vu.... way back in 1996 I used to post regularly on the Kingdom Come Message Board... back then people started to refer to Jonah Weiland as "The Monitor" and started to right funny stories with posters on the board as superheroes in long sequential storylines.... many of them were stories like Crisis on KBMB or Crisis on the CBRMB, etc. Eventually comics talk dwindled and all of the active posters were feverishly devoting their time to nonsensical fan fiction stories with the other board members as participants. When Jonah created the CBR website he gave them a devoted message board for this kind of stuff... last time I looked they were still a thriving section (probably the most active). Most of the stuff makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Side note: Gail Simone was one the most active of these fan fic writers when it first started, as she spun the stuff out constantly and everyone praised her greatness. She then began to write humor columns... eventually going on to get professional work at Marvel and DC writing Deadpool and Gus Beezer... now she's taking over Birds of Prey. Kev

povertyrow - No one is saying that the seller's responsibilities end after they leave feedback. If in fact there is a problem with the item then the seller is certainly supposed to make steps to repair the problem. If the item was not what the seller was expecting they should take the return (of course this depends on the nature of the problem). Buyer lived up to his end (he deserves his positive), seller failed so it's up to them to make proper steps to fix, that usually means a full refund when the item is returned. If the buyer chooses to neg after that, then he should get a comment like "yes I made a mistake but refund was given". As far as damaged goods or lost items go, if the seller packed improperly they are responsible and the buyer should get a refund, but if they did pack properly and it still got damaged or if the package is lost... the seller should assist the buyer to a point, and that point depends on the method of shipping selected by the buyer (and offered to the buyer by the seller). In my mind, sellers should always offer the buyer two means of shipping - regular and insured. If someone opts to take the cheapest shipping method available, one without a tracking number and insurance, and the item is lost or damaged, the fault is not the seller's but the postal service's, and since they will rarely do anything in those situations the seller at some point has to say that they can do no more (i.e. no refund). If the buyer leaves a neg, which is completely fair, then I would leave them a follow-up comment: "Buyer chose to ship uninsured w/o tracking number". If insurance and tracking was selected then the item should be traceable and damages can be claimed from the post office and the seller should take steps to assist the buyer to get their money back. If they leave a neg, so be it, but again they will get a follow-up comment like: "Insurance paid, steps are being taken to get buyer's money back". Kev

Amazing... Joe Collector... keeper of the peace. Kev

Not that I don't disagree with your logic LH, as it's definitely more logical than the original post by wolverinefreak but I tend to disagree, as 99% of the transactions I've had on e-bay are precisely "Yes they sent the money" and "Yes they sent the product". For the 1% that are difficult after the fact there is the opportunity for follow-up comments. Kev