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Thanks for the Gonna hold on to my copies for a while longer

Also please post this in the bronze and silver sections

Can you at least TRY and make an effort to be less biased???

41 watchers on that biotch too

This guy didnt waste a second! Bought for 150.00 on aug 12 1 more day to go This will probably close at 350-400

and another one who doesn't understand what RT is chimes in let me try and understand what you said first

Anybody else still thinks that RT is NOT biased on films??

Every trend in this hobby since it first showed signs of collectible attributions is with the collector's pocket in mind. From the packaging of books through print limits to variant covers, through grading companies, different slab series, census, and yes, ratio retailer incentives. DONT PRETEND LIKE YOU DONT KNOW THIS. Were all in this together because we love the hobby and we understand its worth to our personal collection as well as others. There are things that make or break a book's value The retailer incentive variant program is one of them. By introducing access inventory to the market PAST INITIAL DISTRIBUTION POINT contradicts that program's validity and causes it to be flawed

I thought several people had clarified this information a long time ago. There's a reason they are 1:xx vs 1/xx the only limited variants are the ones that are limited to a specific print run. Yes but were talking about re-distribution of overages now. Thats past the initial distribution point

Just to be clear the above reply was directed at jay's comment. Got lazy and typed it on my phone soz

Nothing here is "opinionated". These are all facts. None of what you wrote is what u assume. It's all overly analyzed interpreted jargon which is based on nothing. A 1:x ratio retailer incentive variant should not be redistributed by its original distributor for further market exploitation. Period

All that stuff is speculative at best. Its the What If issue Marvel should really publish (maybe make it a "retail incentive" variant) Would Ramos variants be the same price they are currently w/o the added surplus? Maybe. Maybe not Is Ramos variant a key sustainable book? maybe. Maybe not Did the news surrounding Ramos variants found in 5 below packs nationwide cause speculators to keep away from further investing in said book? Probably, or maybe not That doesnt change the fact that the rules have been broken. Added inventory fell DIRECTLY to flippers hands time and time again with the help of information revealed online. Which in return, helped oversaturate the market. Facts Im happy that this was discovered. Im happy that tens of thousands of speculative dollars with thousands invested by speculators lost on their investment. No seriously. Soooooo happy Just hope the next thousand comes crashing isnt the one in your box/safe

Really? Voltron had some decent popularity. I see somebody has a real nice one for sale on the boards right now too. Voltron was a TV show kids ran home after school to see n the 80s. A related comic is no drek! Team America on the other hand... I've never seen this in any comic shop let alone dollar bin. I guess Im showing my age here. In the 80s this was in every independent grab bag of 50 for 10. Actually Blob, you may wanna call Koch and check if he has them for a buck or less in his warehouse, Im pretty sure he has plenty... Ooooops

So sad that we have to have "inside information" to help us analyze a collectible's rarity or lack of.

In all fairness, that list is from 2013 and there's no way of knowing how many copies were made available. It could be 100 or only 10 and at the time (even a year and a half ago) UF #4 bagged was going for $2 or less. UF #4 1:25 will still be a major key down the road IMO and it sure looks like a good time to buy now and in the next couple of weeks Just stop for a second and ask yourselves. Why is this a 1:25, or a 1:100, or a 1:5000??? Because this is supposed to be working on distribution quantities that are ordered by stores. These are RETAIL INCENTIVES Weeks after distribution we get a market analysis from comichron which is usually reflected on sales on eBay and the likes. No where does Marvel tell you that YEARS after said variant is distributed on a ratio basis will there be LEFTOVER STOCK up for grabs by the hundreds, maybe thousands. This is BS if I ever heard of it.

No. Lets NOT escalate this to a nickle and dime debate. The Ramos/Djurdjevic Variants were RATIO BASED variant. Thats what Marvel tells us. Thats what makes us collect and invest in Moderns and more specifically modern variants. Information. Otherwise whats the point in marketing them on such a complex structure base Now they are to be had RANDOMLY in a non comic specialty store for anyone who wants them. Again, dont get it twisted. This is NOT about print runs. This is not about a single 25 sale or a single 250 sale. This is about market inflation cause by UNDISCLOSED information. This is market manipulation. This is EVERYTHING that we DONT wanna see in this industry

Remember the price drop for ASM #4 variant? Fixed. Thanks for approving my statement What's the price now. This is the price now Do you remember when ASM4 variants moved for 60-100 raw REGULARLY or did you forget? This is the price now (65.00) Just for the record, this book sold CONSISTENTLY for 100-250 raw for the past year. Youre argument that someone is "bitter" because he/she couldnt find a copy is childish at best What you really should argue is how many people HAD/ INVESTED IN copies and trusted Marvel's stock to not one day inflate the market and cause it to drop.

Remember the price drop for ASM #4 variant? Fixed. Thanks for approving my statement

In other news ASM #678 venom variant is now found in 5 below packs ...I kidddddd

You guys do realize that its not about "finding" them now. Its more about price drop on eBay now

or... enrique iglesias?