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Most "modern" collectors would cave to trends from the various sources you mentioned, its convenient to think that the evil-doers are the bloggers/IGers/FBers. but this is not new, in the 90s it was Wizard, and even before that you had savvy dealers (hello chuck R) who pumped the product wildly. I fell victim to many of Chuck's rantings back in the 80s and went full on with indie B&W, adult & underground stuff (Quadrant, Jaberwocky, etc), even HC/TPB stuff which was once very fashionable. All of it has by now long cooled off. Not to say that Chuck was lying when he said that this stuff is gonna be HTF. It was. But fast forward to some 20-30 years later and theres absolutely zero demand for it

Even though unlikely, he may have a couple around?

I've only seen once copy surface on the bay past two years and it went for 30$ so that didn't really say much so figured I'd ask here. I'm not looking to flip just to add to my set so didn't know if it came in a 20 brick or a 2pack or what

How common/rare is Supes 106? I have someone who sent me a list of books and one of them was that one...

Damn I miss Hsu

No it isn't You choosing to think that illustrating a point (whereas an example was set) should b limited to just that is narrow sighted. What about hundreds 1 bin drek MODERN books selling for 10-50 bucks, what about newsstand MODERN books selling for hundreds, what about 9.9-10.0 MODERNS selling for thousands, what about 2nd-later print NON variant MODERNS outperforming originals, what about optioned MODERN books exploding in value bcs of a movie announcement That is just a taste of what the modern market has evolved into in recent years That, again, is just to illustrate to you how stupid a market (or not, time will tell), this has become and last those are just examples of MODERN trends that mostly never existed in our hobby until recently You further LIMITING the SA/GA markets as the ONLY prosperous markets in our hobby is, again, very narrow sighted Maybe, just maybe, there a possibility that they are BOTH doing well?

Yup at a certain point in the late 80s DC simply started publishing mature content without any such disclosure on those books. Their explanation to this was "no kid will pay 2.95 to buy a comic" You could say that that was the turning point in shifting attention from kids to adults in our hobby

There are many people that do not sell their collections bcs of a combination of security/procrastination. Kinda like the same way that a lot of people sign up to a gym and never set foot on its premise. And god knows there are a lot of fat f**s in our hobby ??

Well this thread is about moderns heating up on eBay

How come WW72 is hiding??

Shes accepting submissions now

I agree with everything you say except for the blame portion. There are many reasons why comics are more expensive nowadays as opposed to say up till the late 80s. Up until that time the prices were more or less affordable as you put it - pocket change. In the 80s a major change happened in 2 fronts: comic code & creative control. And those walked almost hand in hand when it came to pricing. Many ground breaking writers have demanded more creative control of their work and creation, and the work for hire ethos (although still existing then) has dwarfed significantly. What many people dont realize, is that a HUGE chunk of the money the publishers made was not from the 75 cent cover price of the comic, but rather from licensing properties and material to other media outlets and countries. Once you had the writers get a big chunk of that pie the publishers were left with much less in their pocket. I dont know to what degree that has effected them financially but that is why there was a major shift with pricing and format. Esp when writers had the freedom to go to other independent companies and have their work published there. Fast forward to today and you see how MANY writers chose wisely to do so As you can see today, creative control over material is almost everything in our industry, now more so than ever with so much comic book source material dominating blockbuster movies and TV shows. I do believe that most writers nowadays put out material that they hope would get licensed first, and have a readership following second. Such as with a book like Outcast for instance that was published the day it was adapted to be a TV show. Outcast is probably also the only book that worked successfully on both fronts - sales and getting a show - and thats not because of the quality writing, but mainly because of the buzz it generated. Image could have probably given that book away and recoup their money from licensing the show, but Kirkman being the main shareholder of that property probably pocketed most of that deal (if not all?)

Almost double what it was last year Jungle Action #6 CGC 9.8. Black Panther 1st new JAsolo story 1st Erik Kilmonger

Modern BP still hot asf Black Panther #2 CGC 9.8 NM/MT White pgs 1st app of Shuri 2005

X-Force 1 9.8 stock is up by 25 points today https://www.ebay.com/itm/X-FORCE-1-CGC-9-8-Movie-Coming-Soon-Cable-Deapool/202255265507?hash=item2f175a6ee3:g:ZRcAAOSwElpaoUI2

First of all silver and golden KEYS are selling very well. But NON key SA/GA have ZERO spec power when compared to copper & moderns. That part is nonexistent. I would assume that dealers price their silver-golden keys much much much much higher because they are subscribing to the thought that those are much safer investment stocks than the much more commonly accessible modern/copper keys AND spec books they are moving at such an inflated price They are probably right

Kinda like the real estate market in NY for the past 20+ years. Sellers selling to sellers and those young couples who really need a home are left out while prices soar every year

Al Jaffee is the MVS of Mad!

The best part of buying low grade books is that you dont have to worry about how shtty a job the seller will do shipping them https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pack-of-3-Limited-Collectors-Edition-C-31-Oct-Nov-1974-DC/112867095103?epid=85498469&hash=item1a4767323f:g:VgUAAOSwZ2laqByu

Ever thought about how rare it would be to find Mad magazines in NM? even copper ones... Mostly because almost everyone folded those damn Al Jaffee back covers in the back..

which one, the one with the naked chick pics found in a deadpool comic?

Also consider that 18.00 for a book was BIG NEWS back then... If a book was over $10 back then, youve already missed the boat... And there were PLENTY of those around

I cant believe you missed that one

That is exactly one of my talking points; not too many collectors nowadays can afford nor access these books, so they "hype" and market and cater to more accessible books. which leads to a (not borderline, but plain) stupid market

Yes that is correct IH181 was 50$ in 88 and 250$ the next year. I remember it went drastically higher within a year or 2 just didn't remember by how much.