Jaydogrules

It is a third printing, not a variant of the first printing. -J.

Are you sure ? I saw it with a $130k offer (still consistent with these other two selling prices) and then *poof*. -J.

This is actually the third 7.0 to sell in this price range in the last couple of weeks. Comiclink sold their other 7.0 with "white pages" on the label for $130k, and Greg Reece sold a 7.0 off from his site in that ballpark as well. Unfortunately none of these will reflect on GPA. -J

I wish I had a 9.9 copy of a book. That's pretty cool. But "Adam Hughes Story"? Come on CGC. -J.

I'm trying figure out why you are choosing to couch the numbers in those terms. In reality, Homecoming (at $571M) has grossed about $50M more than GOTG did in its first 17 days: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/05/11/box-office-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-has-crossed-500-million-worldwide/#39cc3f743734 And is only off Wonder Woman pace (a movie that had universal, relentless, near hyperventilating media coverage and critical fawning and a virtually wide open playing field for 4 weeks) by about $30M, after 3 weeks: https://www.google.com/amp/variety.com/2017/film/box-office/wonder-woman-crosses-600-million-at-worldwide-box-office-1202475933/amp/ Homecoming may have been more front loaded, but again, it was also released during the most competitive period in the summer, and it's STILL hitting good numbers. Would Marvel have liked this to make a billion+ dollars ? Of course. I don't know how likely they thought that was though, especially considering the fact that Spidey's earlier, much ballyhooed extended appearance and de-facto origin story in Civil War probably goosed that movie's box office by AT LEAST $100M. At the end of the day, I don't think Marvel is crying in its beer in the least on this one. -J.

Thanks Boscoe! So.....in about 3 weeks, wonder woman, in a virtually wide open market place, made $600MM. Meanwhile, in the most competitive period at the box office so far this year , Homecoming has made $571MM (just 29MM less) and the Apes movie, which was foolishly released one week after Homecoming, pays the price and plummets all the way to #4, behind Homecoming, which is #3 behind two brand new movies, both of which exceeded expectations, only one of which (Dunkirk) has a chance at any real legs. Methinks Spidey is just fine. Homecoming was designed to be a smaller focused, character-centric story. It would have benefited from a 30 minute shorter run time, but then that could also be said about Wonder Woman and most other 2 hour + super hero movies. Also, the actress playing "MJ" was absolutely vile, as was the character. Hopefully the near universal scorn she has received will prompt Marvel to dump any notions that she is "Mary Jane", and quite frankly, the actress altogether. What an absolutely miserable person she was, just completely wrecked the time of the movie every time she sullied the screen. Yuck! -J.

Beautiful. -J.

Of course I was aware of those two sales, as well as the other 6 or 7 others both before and after that which got it to #1. And even if one single buyer made a run on every single copy that became available because he heard from a friend of a friend of a friend that Hush was going to be the storyline of the next Batman movie, it still would have made #1. -J.

Like minds are of course always free to disagree. I always can appreciate a good back and forth as long as it doesn't get overtly personal, insulting, or vulgar. But I think at the end of the day, the biggest difference between me, and many who contribute to these boards, is that I am acutely aware that absolutely nothing that is said on here, either good or bad, will remotely affect what happens to books in the greater marketplace at large. Nothing. So I type with a half smirk on my face, tongue often in cheek, and try to enjoy the occasional back and forth with the usual suspects. -J.

It's deja vu all over again I tells ya! Brought to you by "the haters club", est. circa 2003. -J.

Wrong again. I point out when books actually ARE being shilled and it's obvious. Zero/low feedback bidders/ 100% bidding activity with the same sellers, and then the same book reappearing a very short time later for sale again. It's like I said a few posts back, this book sells so infrequently, if somebody were to attempt to do that here, even if they were attempting to subsequently sell the book privately, setting a price using and referencing the two eBay 9.8 sales (though I notice you continue to ignore the various other sales that happened across other grade and label colours in the two years prior as this book began to spike again), it wouldn't be very hard for a buyer with even a modicum of savvy (and one would hope that would be the case if he is looking at a $5k-$6k book to purchase) can simply look at the eBay sales, or GPA and say "hey, didn't that exact same book supposedly just sell for $XXXX? What are you trying to pull here?" But since none of these books have actually reappeared anywhere publicly since then, the only thing that we do know with any certainty is that- that they have not been offered for sale publicly since they were purchased. Anything else beyond that is gross supposition that only someone chewing on sour grapes would repeatedly suggest. Which I actually find ironic, given how hostile you use to get everytime someone sought to even casually suppose a book's print number via comichron. But just in case you really are trying to just "understand the market" I will break down in its most elemental form the reasons for this book's insane popularity and values it commands- Batman. Rare. 15 years old. Variant. Batman. Jim Lee. Batman. Rare. Variant. Batman. -J.

So instead it would have gone to y**s (959) for $4550. -J.

Why you are always so concerned with how other people choose to spend their money is the far more pressing question you should be grappling with. -J.

Even if e**5 (512) didn't win it for $4900, k**k (1716) would have had it for $4850. Or r**a (548) would have had it for $4750. That's called intense "demand". EBay listings are stale after 90 days. I'm starting to think they are glitchy and unreliable after that, thus making this conversation even more pointless and irrelevant than it already was. -J.

Okay, so then you just can't see that e**5 (512) won the first auction and r**0 won the orher two. Lets just continue to ignore all of the other sales before and after that over the last two years that clearly showed the book spiking again. You just don't like those two sales because one guy decided to own two copies of a book in grade that literally almost never comes up for sale. Got it. You are literally just repeating the same broken record that has been unequivocally wrong since this thread was first started in 2003. And lookie lookie. Now that $500 book is a $5000-$6000 book. How will you feel when it's a $10,000 book ? And again, I highly doubt any reasonable or objective person would find an individual owning two copies of the same book to be "questionable", nor do I believe any reasonable or objective person would choose to use the word "series" as a descriptor of two sales. -J.

No. It was only two of the auctions. Look again. And now you're REALLY grasping at straws, trying to point out what someone "might" have done privately, you simply have no evidence of anything, you're speculating has descended into the utter sublime, and yet you just keep going. Okay, so a buyer wanted to own two copies of this hard to find book. SO WHAT? As I've already said , there are boardies who will openly tell you they have, in the past, also bought this book in multiple if they could when it has come up for sale. SO WHAT? What does that tell me about "the market" for the book? About the same that it does when I consider that, even with 200 slabs now on the census, people are holding on to them tight and they barely ever come up for sale, in any grade or condition, ever. About the same that it does that the one and only copy on eBay right now has 66 watchers. About the same that it does that the last raw copy was at $1k in less than 24 hours before the seller pulled it to likely sell off eBay. About the same as it does that somebody recently paid $1000 for a copy that would have been a blue label 6.5 with a detached cover just so they could own any copy at a relatively affordable price point. About the same as it does that every other copy in every grade and label type other than a blue 9.8 has also busted GPA in the last 24 months. It all tells me that the book is one of the most desired and sought after Batman books out there and that it's one of the top books of the modern age, which also tells me why it sells for a mint. -J.

No. It was two auctions. Months ago. With feedback left in both directions. And neither book has been re-listed anywhere publicly since. It may be a "fact", but it doesn't actually prove anything (other than somebody purchased two copies). You're grasping at straws because you don't like what these variants sell for. -J.

Sorry , but I don't find anything "questionable" about someone on eBay buying and selling 3 different copies of a book over an eight year period, and I highly doubt any reasonable or objective person would. And I don't know what you sold the Batman Grendel for years ago but last year a copy sold for a whopping $85 dollars so I stand by my assertion that the 608 is the only Batman variant that has consistently sold for any significant money. In fact, for a book that you are purporting to have a smaller print run than the RRP, there have been in fact MORE of those for sale, each selling for a couple of hundred bucks, than the RRP over the last few months. Would some people consider a couple hundred dollars a "significant" sum for a Batman variant? Meh. There are many Batman variants that sell for that. But none other anywhere near the level of the RRP. And for good reason. -J.

Funny, no one can demonstrate that any of that has ever happened here. Just more of the same hate that's been around since 2003. At what point does being wrong get boring ? So it is just more sour grapes from "certain people" (the same people, one of whom is posting under multiple accounts) who have nothing better to do than be bothered by what books they don't own sell for. As for the Batman Grendel, that book does come up for sale intermittently, has been up for sale fairly recently raw, and has not even come close to what the 608 has sold for raw. So "certain people's" speculative statements are not supported. -J.

I can't believe you just used the words "niche" and "shallow" with anything having to do with the demand for Batman. You are aware that Batman epemera has at least a little more demand than Maxx ashcans, right ? -J.

Yes this is one of the books that i follow. I'm familiar with those sales and the 8 others that have happened in the last 12 months in multiple grades and label colours. One person buying two copies of the same book is not proof of anything. Again, there are boardies who will tell you that they have bought this book every time they see a copy, either to flip or slab and flip. So what ? The problem comes when it's the same 0 and/or low feedback bidders "winning" books at unsupported amounts and then seeing that book re-listed. That's the purpose of shilling. To create a false demand and/or false FMV on a book for subsequent sales. How many listings on eBay do you see for this book right now? I just see the one 9.6 Voldy copy with 65 watchers. And even if the buyer of the two 9.8 copies decided to sell one at this point, several months after the fact, that doesn't prove anything either, since he arguably got a deal on it, since subsequent 9.8 copies have sold for more than he paid for his. The appetite for the book appears insatiable (the raw copy was pushing $1000 after less than a day before the seller pulled the auction). This is the single most coveted Batman variant that there is, and really, the only one that is worth anything significant. Thanks to the differing way DC has released their variants compared to Marvel over the years, this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who follows the modern market, forget about variants, just the modern market, period, in general. -J.

Easy. Unless the same book is being re-listed after a shill bidder "wins" an auction and/or multiple copies flood the market in a proximate time frame after the fact (which actually has happened with that Rick and Morty variant, and others), then where's the shilling ? Quite to the opposite of your point (?) the common books that everybody has in bulk are the very sorts of books that are easiest to shill with the most upside. When a book only sells a few times a year, it's a hundred times easier to spot a re-list from a fake sale- something that has not happened here, despite the tiresome oblique suggestions otherwise. The book sells for a mint. Deal with it and move on with your life. And the notion of an ebayer (maybe) buying and selling three different copies over a nearly eight year time span demonstrating something questionable is so demonstrably preposterous it does not even warrant a serious response. -J.

As the special effects continue to be polished, every subsequent trailer makes me think more and more this is going to be a super hero version of Game of Thrones. There's never been anything attempted like that before in scope. It's ambitious, and will probably represent a pivot point in what we see going forward. -J.

Is there a board rule that says OP gets first dibs ? -J.

One guy (maybe) bought and sold tbree unique copies in seven+ years and you believe that constitutes being "deeply involved"? I know for a fact that as recently as about two years ago the boardie nWo (John) had three unique copies himself at once. He sold two on the boards and almost sold a third raw copy to Jerome (Lethalprotector) when he was trying to track down a slabbed 9.8 copy (which he was finally able to do after looking for one and advertising in the WTB section for nearly a year). And, just like your example, that doesn't prove anything, let alone demonstrate any nefarious or questionable activities. I just think you're grasping at straws here because you don't like what the book (and other big money rare variants) sell(s) for. And like I said before, that's soooo 2003. -J.